I've had this a few times. As you'll question the game over and over again, it's likely that you'll get more than you were expecting on the next 900..

And just remember, you're getting double the yield in hews bane, so 900 is only 450 times worth of collecting

I farmed 270 ore. Got 2 alloys out the first 50 and then out of the rest nothing

SydneyGrey wrote: »

It's possible if you farm the same spot over and over, the yield goes down.

I say this because I decided to try farming the exact same spot for heartwood today in Hew's Bane. Had decent luck getting heartwood at first, then it seemed like I wasn't getting it at all. I don't know whether I was just imagining it or not, but it seemed like my chances of getting heartwood went down considerably after I'd been picking at the same node for a good long while. I wonder if this is something built into the game to discourage botting, or if I was just having bad luck in the second half of my time there. Who knows.

*I wasn't botting. I was there at the keyboard the whole time, and wouldn't know how to make a bot even if I wanted to, which I don't because botters suck. The only reason I was there was because of the Thieve's Guild event, and this is not my normal mode of farming.

Heartwood makes sense as its part of node loot so reducing drop with intense farming makes sense.
Tempers is gained during refining after material is stored in stack then perhaps banked or sold, very unlikely they keep some extra data with each material in stack. It was explained about crafting bags, they just store material id and amount

Let him into your heart.

Aren't they supposed to be rare?

I'm sorry but I laughed..

Mephisto939 wrote: »

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

I've had bad luck refining in the past, but never as bad as that. 916 ore refined in Hews Bane, and not a single alloy. Also did 1,000 silk and scraps, and got just three wax.

Bad night for refining.

~Deedle

Did you respec recently and forget to put points into temper expertise? Speaking from experience.

Nah. I've had my skill points set for the last six months. This was just an exceptionally bad run of luck. And in Hew's Bane. During double-drop week.

~Deedle

JinMori wrote: »

That's rng for you. The drop rate of tempering alloys is stupidly low.
Guess next time i will have to sacrifice a goat to the devil to get some alloys....

i've noticed a negative change for refining after homestead for some reason.... (maybe just bad luck)
on the positive side though, i've noticed a change in gold mat drops from writs since homestead... i get 2-3 for the set of writs every day instead of getting shafted or only 1 if i'm lucky.

Hmm. This is rather interesting. Here I was thinking stuff like this was in my head and that "RNG" is the culprit. Now, I'm starting to think otherwise.

Once a month, I head over to Khenarthi's Roost and give away collections of blue motifs. One day, a recipient asked how easy it was to find them. I didn't think about the question at first, but I did find the question curious to ask myself, "How often do I find these books?"

Turns out: once a day. No more. No less. Last Saturday, I decided to put this theory to the test and spent an entire day going from AD zone to AD zone. From top to bottom, I managed only a single motif: Khajiit.

As I continued to keep track, something else popped onto my radar: Kuta stones. I notice I seem to collect far more Kuta stones every 4 days, rather than at least once a day. Turns out, this also seems to be the drop rate from purple/gold motifs.

So, it seems in addition to RNG, I sense a time barrier is also used against me. This is all preliminary, as I'm still keeping track, but tonight, I should expect to see Kuta stones show up now that it's my 4th day since getting one.

I don't see this mechanic working against breaking down stuff, though. Seems like this is pure RNG. I can receive a couple of waxes one day, and not see them for a day or two, usually only getting one (but requires 100+ mats to break down).

I'm not against RNG, but I will have to say this one seems ... punishing.

Before Homestead, for 3 weeks I collected data how successful is my refining, then I got bored and stopped. Here are results:

2810 Rubedo leather 8 gold
2800 Ancestor silk 11 gold
4280 Rubedite ore 19 gold
2850 Ruby ash 24 gold

In Homestead rng is far worse for me, I can refine few hundred mats and didn't get anything.

That sucks, I think Blacksmithing is broken in this game. I get dreugh wax and rosin constantly, but even when I break down blues I'm not getting *** dwarven oil, not to mention the RNG on refining to get temp alloy.

Lol I did around 5k rubedite ore and only got about 4 temp alloys. The next day I did roughly 1k ore and got 13 temp alloys.

The pain and joy of rng.