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Heartwood--Let's Set a Disappointing Record

  • Fudly_budly
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    Tabbycat wrote: »
    If people are leaving behind the "chaff" and just taking housing materials, they are fools.

    You can get green, blue and purple rosins from processing wood. And the tannins or rosins or tempers ( or whatever they are) are also needed for furniture crafting... in large amounts.

    IKR. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but what total dummy leaves rough wood mats? This is totally absurd play for all the reasons you ably cite.

    To OP, My drop rates are in the abysmal area. I don't even bother counting heartwood anymore. ZOS has made furniture mats a grind and I can play without grinding. Besides, what's the rush? It's not like player homes are useful for anything anyways. Homestead is one month live as of yesterday. I started with 3.7 mill gold on Feb 6. I have 3.7 mill today with 5 homes in various states of... "completion?" Whatever "completion" means.
    I enjoy crafting but in the last 30 days, I've crafted maybe two pieces of furnishings a day on average. Honestly, I have quit even trying to figure out any reasonably obtainable benefit from home ownership. It's an endless gold sink grind. Nothing more. But, I've zero-summed my way through it. Meh.
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  • Niaver
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    Heartwood are not that rare for me.
    Though it's hard to find good places to harvest a lot of woodworking nodes nowardays.

    The real question is where to find so many green woodworking tempers to craft all this green furniture xD
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  • mb10
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    I've harvested a little over 50 I think on my normal mat runs over the last two weeks . The Bast for clothing mats is hardest for me to find .

    @Rohamad_Ali The guildstores say otherwise for bast but I agree with you

    I have a feeling you harvest in the same place I do lol
    Edited by mb10 on March 7, 2017 1:33PM
  • AFrostWolf
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    Idk how it's calculated but I have a 50% chance to get one on average.
  • Cherryblossom
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    Last time I checked my bag I had 312!

    If it's any consolation my RNG is bad for Gear and Kuta. I really think there are some strange calculations on some accounts.
    Edited by Cherryblossom on March 7, 2017 4:46PM
  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    Given that Heartwood is used in more patterns than any two other furnishing mats combined the drop rate for it needs to be upped quite significantly.

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  • Katahdin
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    I think I've gotten around 200 so far.
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  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Tempah wrote: »
    I got 5 heartwood from a heavy sack.

    Yeah, Heavy Sacks in dungeons all the way for sure. Never see them on any wood i harvest.
  • jakeedmundson
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    Is this stuff valuable? ... like, i should link all this crap in chat to sell it?
    I find stuff all the time harvesting nodes.
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  • Tai-Chi
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    I disagree. My Main Crafter has found hundreds of Heartwood. I cannot say exactly how many she has harvested because she has used lots of it for making furniture in her home.

    None of the actual furniture is bought; it is all crafted. She has also attained the Master Decorator Achievement, so a lot of matts have been gobbled up in furnishings. Tables, chairs, beds, bookcases, counters all require Heartwood.

    Since gaining the Master Heartwood Harvester Acievement the mat seems to drop more frequently. The same applies to all the other resources.

    One needs to find the right sort of places, where the chance of drop-rate is slightly enhanced.

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  • Zypheran
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    Two things;
    Firstly, yes heartwood drop rate is rediculously disproportionate to the amount required to craft furniture. But this is deliberate in my view and done to encourage people to use the crown store. Homestead is not a proper dlc, it is a cash grab!
    Secondly, it has been my experience while trying to harvest this elusive material that drop rates differ in different zones. I farm 3-4 days per week and I have long ago discovered that some zones are better than others for particular materials eg Stros MKai is very good for rubedite ore and regulus but AWFUL for heartwood but Behtnik is very good for heartwood.
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  • LordTareq
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    Heartwood only goes for around 200 gold each at this point, so I just buy it from a guildtrader.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    It is funny how I have a stack pile of Sanded Ruby Ash (1K ) in my bank...
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    Yet I can't make wooden furnitures.. In eso wooden furnitures are made of this (heartwood):
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    Which is in some way "different" wood....
  • Magdalina
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    ...was on my way to a survey and harvested one random ruby ash. It didn't have an actual ruby ash, but it did have heartwood in it :p Someone must've left it there after harvesting the wood itself. Gotta say I'm not really interested in housing so it doesn't matter much to me, but I lol'd and picked it up.
  • DM_ESO
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    Tabbycat wrote: »
    I think it is just cyclical. Sometimes you will go for a stretch where you find it all over and other times you start suspecting someone invisible is stealing it from all the nodes before you get there.
    Maybe people are taking just the heartwood and leaving the old wood ores? Like leaving worms.

  • Callous2208
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    I've been farming pretty hardcore since housing launched. I average about 1 heartwood per 25 nodes. Have been 53 nodes in before without a drop though.
  • ADarklore
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    Strange, I receive and sell Heartwood all the time... not sure if it's tied to crafting level, but my woodworking level is maxed.
    Edited by ADarklore on March 8, 2017 12:35AM
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  • MercTheMage
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    This is *** pathetic, something has to be done. Spent millions on a *** house that has been sitting empty for months.
    Of course zos doesn't give a *** cause they want people to spend crowns. Corruption at its finest people.
    You just going to stand there like a lemon?
  • alexkdd99
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    Nearly 75% of my ruby ash nodes have had heartwood in them.
  • MercTheMage
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    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    Nearly 75% of my ruby ash nodes have had heartwood in them.

    1 heartwood? Congrats, you can now craft a single chair for your house...
    You just going to stand there like a lemon?
  • KrishakPanettier
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    The problem with the reported low drop rates of the raw Housing material is that many, many people are harvesting only the raw housing material and leaving the node with non-housing material behind (including hearthwood). It has reached epic proportion where I see harvesters.

    Those nodes need to have a 2 minute de-spawn timer max. Maybe a lot less. It is so disappointing to see someone farm the new mats and leave the rest for the next harvester.
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  • ADarklore
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    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    Nearly 75% of my ruby ash nodes have had heartwood in them.

    1 heartwood? Congrats, you can now craft a single chair for your house...

    You're missing the point... when you go out farming... you collect several hundred Ruby Ash and that equates to 50 to 100 Heartwood, which is what I've found as well, and is the amount I tend to sell after each farming run. I've actually made quite a bit of gold since Homestead by spending a couple hours, two or three nights a week, farming mats.
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  • JWKe
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    I got the CP bonus where I have a chance to harvest double. Heartwood isnt that uncommon imo. The more uncommon one for me is the housing mat that comes with runes.
  • MercTheMage
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    Nearly 75% of my ruby ash nodes have had heartwood in them.

    1 heartwood? Congrats, you can now craft a single chair for your house...

    You're missing the point... when you go out farming... you collect several hundred Ruby Ash and that equates to 50 to 100 Heartwood, which is what I've found as well, and is the amount I tend to sell after each farming run. I've actually made quite a bit of gold since Homestead by spending a couple hours, two or three nights a week, farming mats.

    Not really, you're making my point for me.
    ADarklore wrote: »
    ...several hundred Ruby Ash and that equates to 50 to 100 Heartwood...
    Edited by MercTheMage on March 8, 2017 2:40AM
    You just going to stand there like a lemon?
  • Betheny
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    In a few weeks I'll probably have enough to make another piece of furniture! :(
  • STEVIL
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    This is *** pathetic, something has to be done. Spent millions on a *** house that has been sitting empty for months.
    Of course zos doesn't give a *** cause they want people to spend crowns. Corruption at its finest people.

    Obligatory Crownspiracy #altfacts toss-ins aside -

    You know you can buy furnishings aplenty from guild traders for gold, right?
    You know you can buy recipes/patterns aplenty from guild traders for gold right?
    You know you can buy furnishing mats from guild traders aplenty for gold right?
    You know farming gold in this game is ridiculously easy, right?

    Anyone who spent millions on a house would have a steady and sizeable gold income stream, right?

    And well you know i think IIRC Homestead dropped 30 days ago on 2-6-17... so how again is it that this millions of gold house "has been sitting empty for months" again?
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  • bmmatthews87rwb17_ESO
    Logged onto the forums for the first time in a couple years just so I could pitch in to this topic...

    I do a lottttt of farming. For a while back there, I was selling half of my furnishing mats and keeping the other half for me to use for my own house. Now that my manor is furnished I've just been selling all of the furnishing mats. Including Heartwood. And like others - I have seen people cherrypicking the nodes when I'm off farming.

    A few days ago I cleared my inventory and went off for my resource gathering adventure. After a few days of intermittent farming - there was about 3800 rough ruby ash sitting in my inventory, and 294 heartwood.

    So, not even a 10% droprate in my experience. Though, that could also be due to other people just taking the furnishing materials and leaving the node otherwise intact.
  • Bladerunner1
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    I think the plentiful harvest CP passive matters a lot more with furniture crafting materials. I could be wrong, but the math seems to support it from my own experiences.

    On one character without plentiful harvest I had roughly 1:20 ratio of heartwood to raw wood in my bags after Homestead was released. This was after collecting around 800 raw pieces of wood and 40 heartwood. So the overall average on this character is roughly 1 heartwood out of 6 wood nodes. It could be bad RNG, maybe.

    My character with plentiful harvest has farmed thousands of nodes and the heartwood/raw wood ratio is around 1:10. It's worth noting that when heartwood drops for this character, there's usually more than one. So the overall average is around 1 heartwood for every 3 nodes give or take.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    radiostar wrote: »
    Hard to tell if they are truly scarce, or just players are removing the Heartwood and leaving the chaff. Like we had with the worms before etc. Only Z would see what's really happening with the nodes.

    They aren't any more scarce than the other furniture mats. However, they are a required ingredient in almost every blueprint, so people need more of them than the other mats, hence the perceived scarcity (you're always running out) and the high price.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on March 8, 2017 7:10AM
  • ADarklore
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    Nearly 75% of my ruby ash nodes have had heartwood in them.

    1 heartwood? Congrats, you can now craft a single chair for your house...

    You're missing the point... when you go out farming... you collect several hundred Ruby Ash and that equates to 50 to 100 Heartwood, which is what I've found as well, and is the amount I tend to sell after each farming run. I've actually made quite a bit of gold since Homestead by spending a couple hours, two or three nights a week, farming mats.

    Not really, you're making my point for me.
    ADarklore wrote: »
    ...several hundred Ruby Ash and that equates to 50 to 100 Heartwood...

    I'm making your point that you need to work for something in order to receive it... or you could just be lazy and buy it from a Guild Trader. Homestead was designed to be a grind, to give players something to work for, including a time-sink such as farming mats, or gold-sink, such as buying a house or buying mats to furnish it. Sounds to me like you don't want to farm, you just want hundreds of furniture mats handed to you so you can do other things. That is now how this game, nor any MMO is designed... almost all are designed to be a grind for one thing or another.
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