Nightblade ridiculous damage from stealth needs to be removed

thankyourat · March 2017

GawdSB wrote: »

I hate Nightblades with a passion and will support any thread to rid the cowards with no skill from this game.

Seriously fighting a nightblade is like this...

1. Gank attempt
2. Failed gank? K lemme run and go back in stealth
3. Repeat 1 & 2 until I die or opponent does,

All thanks to ZOS thinking it's a good idea to give a class the ability to not only coward in fear and be able to go in and out of stealth at will but also make their attacks after 100% chance to crit. Wow, yes so much skill such an enjoyable class to play against.

You ever fought a magplar. Nightblades have nothing on them in terms of being annoying. I get so mad when they just sit there block cast BoL and go to full health.

t3hdubzy · March 2017

austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »

The issue is incap. I've seen one NB take out 3 people with ease with incaps alone. Ganking doesn't take skill in ESO. Crouch, engage, they die, cloak, and go again. Incap combo on each target. The combo is easy to learn and easy to pull off.

In other mmos you couldn't restealth and engage nearly as easily with your best skills available. DAOC? If you broke stealth and didn't succeed in assassination. You rarely got away.

Not true those 3 ppl were mostly likely squishy, in cap rarely hits for 10k or more to a decent player and is easy to roll dodge away from because it gives a slight snare just before hitting and makes a unique noise. Its also single target opposed to other ults that are just as powerful and some more powerful that are also aoes.

The only thing incap has going for it is its low cost, and the passives. Otherwise onslaught or dawnbreaker would be more viable.

qsnoopyjr · March 2017

No kidding, was running around with my tank yesterday 53k hp.

Got slaughtered by a nightblade so fast, the damage was ridiculous, I felt like an NPC getting executed Thieves Guild style.

Bobby_V_Rockit · March 2017

PVP sucks because gankblades

Prof_Bawbag · March 2017

thankyourat wrote: »

GawdSB wrote: »

I hate Nightblades with a passion and will support any thread to rid the cowards with no skill from this game.

Seriously fighting a nightblade is like this...

1. Gank attempt
2. Failed gank? K lemme run and go back in stealth
3. Repeat 1 & 2 until I die or opponent does,

All thanks to ZOS thinking it's a good idea to give a class the ability to not only coward in fear and be able to go in and out of stealth at will but also make their attacks after 100% chance to crit. Wow, yes so much skill such an enjoyable class to play against.

You ever fought a magplar. Nightblades have nothing on them in terms of being annoying. I get so mad when they just sit there block cast BoL and go to full health.

BoL isn't that difficult to bypass and they're not damaging you if they're using BoL which gives you free hits. I'd rather have someone using BoL than smashing my face with an offensive skill.

t3hdubzy · March 2017

GawdSB wrote: »

I hate Nightblades with a passion and will support any thread to rid the cowards with no skill from this game.

Seriously fighting a nightblade is like this...

1. Gank attempt
2. Failed gank? K lemme run and go back in stealth
3. Repeat 1 & 2 until I die or opponent does,

All thanks to ZOS thinking it's a good idea to give a class the ability to not only coward in fear and be able to go in and out of stealth at will but also make their attacks after 100% chance to crit. Wow, yes so much skill such an enjoyable class to play against.

Was there a real point to your thread? U just seem salty. Would love to see anyone who says nightblades are OP post a video of themselves playing 15min str8 with kill after kill. Its not as easy as highlight reels make it seem.

bowmanz607 · March 2017

You people really need to get a grip and l2p. For real. Awwww I got ganked. Here, here is a cookie now go grab a glass of milk and take a nap. Seriouslyyou little nieces and nephews whine less.

You know that temp just spammed blazing smiled ughhb no skill. Only wait the other temp just hit bol and completely reset the fight in one press. Our wait that other one is just spamming jesus beam behind the Zerg with vd. God just no skill.

That sorc is just sitting behind his friends spamming encase. Ughhb where is the skill. Ugh he is just shield stacking and streaking with death ult. Ugh what trash with no skill.

OMG that DK just permanently blocks and never dies. Ugh that other one just spams talons. These players really need to get good. No skill.

Ugh all that player does is processed. No skill.

Ugh they only zerg any can take any of them. Takes no skill to zerg.

And on and on and on. You can literally use the search argument on any class and any build and to any player. The good players learn to counter and adapt to different situations and have the ability to turn a fight around.

See the difference with a ganker and the rest is a ganker has one shot. One chance to pull it off. The others mentioned above can spam for days.

Get a grip people. Don't like it go somewhere else.

JinMori · March 2017

This thread has gotten way more views than i would have ever thought.

Chrysa1is · March 2017

JinMori wrote: »

I said it many times and i will say it again, the damage that nb get from stealth is cancerous to the game, it needs to be removed, or at least toned down. It's useless in pve, and it's cancerous in pvp, this "skill" literally adds nothing good to the game, it only icentivize unskillfull playing, and cancerous builds.
I wonder what would happen if all the nb gankers got they're precious buff removed, and would be forced to actually play with skills.
And this comes from a guy that has 2 nb, one magicka and one stamina.
Edit: i think that some may have misunderstood which buff i'm talking about i apologize for that.
The buff that i'm talking about is not the passive from the assassination skilline Master assassin, i think that's perfectly fine, the buff that i'm talking about is the 250 % damage bonus that you get from crouch.

Just be what you hate and you will love it. It always okay for the person serving the punishment but when you're the victim its unfortunate. Go gank bro

xeNNNNN · March 2017

rimmidimdim wrote: »

All classes can stealth damage bonus. All. However the real problem is the NB mechanics. I'm a NB. Have always been. Make cloak only castable in combat and remove the sneak speed for vamps. That will make it way harder to sneak damage. It will take skill, awareness, guessing, and CNT have a huge damage set to move fast in sneak, have to use night silence or something. My thoughts. Cheers.

great idea, punish other vamp builds that arent stam based and that use their stealth speed to escape with what little stamina pools they have. *facedesk*.

Just FYI i am refering to those of us who dont initiate in stealth but either use it to escape outnumbered situations or scouting purposes.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · March 2017

God some people are so thick the only advantage Nightblade has is a 10% damage buff from stealth Templars get the same +10% crit damage yet where are the nerf Templar gankers post.

bowmanz607 · March 2017

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

God some people are so thick the only advantage Nightblade has is a 10% damage buff from stealth Templars get the same +10% crit damage yet where are the nerf Templar gankers post.

If I'm not mistaken, molten armaments I think is morph that gives the extra heavy attack damage. They can actually hit harder with the heavy attack gank setup.

JinMori · March 2017

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

God some people are so thick the only advantage Nightblade has is a 10% damage buff from stealth Templars get the same +10% crit damage yet where are the nerf Templar gankers post.

The nb also has 10 % crit damage bonus wth are you saying?

JinMori · March 2017

bowmanz607 wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

God some people are so thick the only advantage Nightblade has is a 10% damage buff from stealth Templars get the same +10% crit damage yet where are the nerf Templar gankers post.

If I'm not mistaken, molten armaments I think is morph that gives the extra heavy attack damage. They can actually hit harder with the heavy attack gank setup.

That's a dk ability

bowmanz607 · March 2017

JinMori wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

God some people are so thick the only advantage Nightblade has is a 10% damage buff from stealth Templars get the same +10% crit damage yet where are the nerf Templar gankers post.

If I'm not mistaken, molten armaments I think is morph that gives the extra heavy attack damage. They can actually hit harder with the heavy attack gank setup.

That's a dk ability

Exactly my point. DK has a higher damage upside with that ability for heavy attack ganking.

GawdSB · March 2017

t3hdubzy wrote: »

GawdSB wrote: »

I hate Nightblades with a passion and will support any thread to rid the cowards with no skill from this game.

Seriously fighting a nightblade is like this...

1. Gank attempt
2. Failed gank? K lemme run and go back in stealth
3. Repeat 1 & 2 until I die or opponent does,

All thanks to ZOS thinking it's a good idea to give a class the ability to not only coward in fear and be able to go in and out of stealth at will but also make their attacks after 100% chance to crit. Wow, yes so much skill such an enjoyable class to play against.

Was there a real point to your thread? U just seem salty. Would love to see anyone who says nightblades are OP post a video of themselves playing 15min str8 with kill after kill. Its not as easy as highlight reels make it seem.

To my thread? I didn't create a thread. Post? Yes there was a point, to point out how useless and annoying NBs are.

GawdSB · March 2017

thankyourat wrote: »

GawdSB wrote: »

I hate Nightblades with a passion and will support any thread to rid the cowards with no skill from this game.

Seriously fighting a nightblade is like this...

1. Gank attempt
2. Failed gank? K lemme run and go back in stealth
3. Repeat 1 & 2 until I die or opponent does,

All thanks to ZOS thinking it's a good idea to give a class the ability to not only coward in fear and be able to go in and out of stealth at will but also make their attacks after 100% chance to crit. Wow, yes so much skill such an enjoyable class to play against.

You ever fought a magplar. Nightblades have nothing on them in terms of being annoying. I get so mad when they just sit there block cast BoL and go to full health.

I'd rather that than hit and run nightblades, Magplars will eventually run out of magicka if you are able to keep bursting them down.

Drdeath20 · March 2017

This is probably the worst time for gankers, over the last 2 years, and nighblades are still finishing people with their opening combo. Not bcz its a highly talented combo but bcz incapcitating strike does too much.

ELDER_HOFF · March 2017

It has taken me a year to get the gear/exp to blast you from stealth for anywhere from 6-10k with a snipe opening. Considering the crit rush-dawnbreaker-viper-tremor scale (or velidreth)combos of the world that essentially destroy without so much as a light attack in response, I will feel sorry for your comments in a little space I like to call "never." I love and respect the gank, and when I get destroyed I will often say "nice" vs. the "bow spamming Bi-- !" comments I get so often. As stated, if you survive the initial burst gankers will normally experience a "oh sh- he is still alive" moment and now its usually 50/50 to win/get away. The bow had no place in PVP until the brotherhood patch and suddenly we who use it as a main have value. In closing I wanted to say your momma has a wooden leg with a kickstand and I will snipe her too.

Arkangeloski · March 2017

And this is why this game is going to hell... for ppl crying nerf left and right... op do us a favor and nerf your self

lol nerf nerf nerf and more nerf. Because of this one day... everybody is going to fight naked with dual pool nooddles and defending super soaker on the back bar and inpen floaties... and lets also change the ultimate to a incap hug that boost the enemies healing done! Fyi nb are assasins you are not to see or feel anything... use radiant mage light or even better l2p n spec your build.

ZOS_CoriJ · March 2017

We asked that this thread stay on track after the last wave of back and forth slander that had to be removed. While there are some good points being shared on the topic it seems that it cannot be done without either being offensive. Thread closed.

Added note: If there is further discussion that would like to be continued on nightblades we would suggest another recent thread on this discussion. This is a better candidate for the Combat and Character Mechanics forum.