Skill points reset - why so pricy ?! most MMO's have it free.

  • kyle.wilson
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    If all you did was fish, you could easily make 10k an hour, getting perfect roe and selling in guild stores.
    There are so many ways of making gold if you are willing to partake in the social aspect of MMO.
    I'm selling every homestead design that's blue or purple. And also the green ones I've already learned. This way I've made 2 million gold in 3 weeks.

    BTW @taiji2078, I don't understand why you are complaining about gold when you bought the ebonheart chateau. I'm still living in my closet.
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  • Dread_Viking
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    20k not that much made 2 mill this week not that hard just join a trad guild
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  • imrilaoi
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    taiji2078 wrote: »
    World of Warcraft - free - this game I was talking about - I'm sure you knew it :smile:

    Black Desert Online - cost (fixed price) 900 coins for a full respec (fixed price). 1 respec free at level 45, then 1 skill respec free / week

    WoW's used to not be free. It only is NOW because skills are no longer important - NOW that is your artifact weapon. Every level 110 Druid has the same exact skills and the same exact talents - because talents were what you used to respec, and they did away with those for the most part.
    And resetting your artifact weapon? That will set you back quite a lot - to the tune of weeks of grinding. Oh, and if you want to play a different role? Well. That is a separate artifact weapon, that you have to grind points for... separately. They are not exchangeable. I reference a Druid here because that is what I main in WoW - and my class has four roles. Thats four artifact weapons to grind up. Know how long it took me to max my main weapon? 4 months of solid grinding.

    BDO? Possibly the worst one in your list. That level 45 free respec? That is once per account - it is an achievement reward. Achievements are account-wide. That item that you can get once per week? That is for one skill point, and that is assuming there is nothing else you want to use loyalty for (like dyes, boss summon scrolls, inventory space, etc). That 900 'coin' item you're talking about? That is ONLY on the cash shop, and that is the ONLY way you can fully respec. I have a ranger and a sorceress in BDO, both are about level 52 (sorc might still be 51 and some change). Trust me, ESO's is cheaper, easier, and more widely available.

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    imrilaoi wrote: »
    BDO? Possibly the worst one in your list.

    I don't know, there were a few games on that list that don't have respec systems at all. STO's is hilariously exploitative because it is set up in a way to make you think you can get it for free, but then prices it to make you shortcut past the grind. Overall, I get the impression that @taiji2078 doesn't actually play any of the games they listed, and is simply going off forum posts from their boards.

    I mean, the TSW should be a tipoff. The game doesn't have a respec system. It has an unlimited AP progression system, where players select 7+1 active and 7+1 passive abilities at any given time. Changing those out (along with swapping gear) is sometimes described as a "respec" by the community, even though it's almost exactly the same skill system ESO uses.
  • timb16_ESO85
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    Personally I find the respec prices quite all right.

    Easily earnable for an endgame character, but not so cheap as to make choices all meaningless and let people respec twice a day.

    I for one think they got the right balance between "pay cash" and "free"...

    Really wish I could afford to respec twice a day, once to switch from my solo build to tanking (champion + morphs) to do the daily undaunted dungeons, and then once back to do the daily quests (mainly craglorn and wrothgar for motifs). The current system forces me to choose if I either want to do dungeons, or play solo for the next few days.

    Hopefully, some day they introduce a system in which you could save 2 builds and freely switch between them, just like weapon swapping, but then with complete gear, skills and champion point. Of course, since a gold sink is still required, altering the points for each preset should still cost gold, but this would lighten the burden on tanks and healers wanting to play both solo and in a group.
  • WatchYourSixx
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    Skill respecs originally were 1000 gold per skill point. It was quickly changed to 100 gold and then when they added morph respecs, they lowered the cost to 50g per. I don't want to hear anyone complaining about respecs costing a lot if you didn't play back in the first year of ESO. It costs NOTHING in comparison to what it used to be.

    Also, for what it's worth, WoW was 10,000 gold for a full respec back in BC and WotLK. Then it was dropped to a reasonable 1000 gold until sometime after Mists. I guess it's free now? Haven't played in 3 years.
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  • timb16_ESO85
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    Skill respecs originally were 1000 gold per skill point. It was quickly changed to 100 gold and then when they added morph respecs, they lowered the cost to 50g per. I don't want to hear anyone complaining about respecs costing a lot if you didn't play back in the first year of ESO. It costs NOTHING in comparison to what it used to be.

    Also, for what it's worth, WoW was 10,000 gold for a full respec back in BC and WotLK. Then it was dropped to a reasonable 1000 gold until sometime after Mists. I guess it's free now? Haven't played in 3 years.

    The very expensive full respec in WoW was to change your preset, switching between your already made 2 (or 3?) specs was free in WoW. And for what it's worth, that it used to be even more expensive, doesn't mean it currently is not expensive to limit people's playstyle
  • Katahdin
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    Whatever happened to the devs allowing us to respec eack skill line seperately? I'd like to be able to respec one or two lines without having to do all of them. It would cut down in some of the expense. This needs to happen.
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  • UrQuan
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    Personally I find the respec prices quite all right.

    Easily earnable for an endgame character, but not so cheap as to make choices all meaningless and let people respec twice a day.

    I for one think they got the right balance between "pay cash" and "free"...

    Really wish I could afford to respec twice a day, once to switch from my solo build to tanking (champion + morphs) to do the daily undaunted dungeons, and then once back to do the daily quests (mainly craglorn and wrothgar for motifs). The current system forces me to choose if I either want to do dungeons, or play solo for the next few days.

    Hopefully, some day they introduce a system in which you could save 2 builds and freely switch between them, just like weapon swapping, but then with complete gear, skills and champion point. Of course, since a gold sink is still required, altering the points for each preset should still cost gold, but this would lighten the burden on tanks and healers wanting to play both solo and in a group.
    You don't need to respec skill points and CPs to do different roles like you describe. You just need to swap gear and what skills you have slotted on your bar. I do it all the time: often multiple times during the course of playing for a couple of hours. I've got characters who swap between DPS, tank, healer, and stealth builds without doing any respecs. In fact, at a minimum all of my characters swap between DPS and stealth builds, while most also have tank builds, and maybe half have healer builds (the magicka-based characters obviously).

    The only time you might actually need to respec your skill points and CPs to do a different role is when you're doing the hardest end-game content. For vet dungeons or daily quests you definitely don't need to.
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  • UrQuan
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Whatever happened to the devs allowing us to respec eack skill line seperately? I'd like to be able to respec one or two lines without having to do all of them. It would cut down in some of the expense. This needs to happen.
    Now that would be awesome. My biggest problem with doing a skill respec is that I'll sometimes forget to put skill points in certain passives that I had them in before and that I really want. If you could choose on a skill line basis what to respec, then I wouldn't ever have that problem.
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    For me it is not about prices. It is about the fact that it so annoying when you want to re-roll from stamina to magicka build, so you rest skills and put skill points that prevoisly were in "dual Wiled" into destro staff etc.

    But... the 95% of skill points you put exactly were they ware before (crafting, guilds, world etc). It is so stupid to reset 250 skill points and put 30 points different and the rest 220 you spend AGAIN on the same passives and skills.. :#
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on March 6, 2017 6:59PM
  • parkham
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    Learn all the skills (eventually). Juggle your morphs and CP around when needed. Should be less than 5k gold I'd imagine.

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  • MythicEmperor
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    taiji2078 wrote: »
    You support my work by posting replies here. SO THANK YOU ALL !!! :smile:

    The system sent me an e-mail to check the messages here ... so here I am ... spending more time for this issue (this as a proof that I'm really serious about it).

    It was a full respec in 20k - (skills for about 12k, attributes for 3k and CP's for 3k).
    I have points invested in everything ... guilds, war, world including vampire and legerdemain, full class trees, ALL professions ... and not enough left for 1h+shield and 2h, since I have healing, destro, bow, 2h full :)) I know it's a mess. Only resetting the morphs isn't providing me enough points ... it is actually what I did in the end only to be able to add more points in one profession that I needed finish leveling these days.

    I played this game much more 2 years ago, a bit less one year ago, but then I had to abandon it, due to personal life issues.
    When I left the game, a respec was nothing compared to what it costs today.

    So here we go ... I took the top MMO's at the beginning of 2017 (http://www.gamesradar.com/best-mmorpg/) and checked each of them on forums and official pages. It took me more than one hour. I'm not doing this for you dear players, but actually for the mods to see and eventually report it to the devs. I didn't post the links, to avoid overloading my already huge post. You can manually search each name of the game followed by the word "respec". You will get my results below :


    World of Warcraft - free - this game I was talking about - I'm sure you knew it :smile:

    Black Desert Online - cost (fixed price) 900 coins for a full respec (fixed price). 1 respec free at level 45, then 1 skill respec free / week

    Albion Online - no respec needed

    Allods Online - free respec

    Defiance - free at start, pay more each time you respec (based on how many times you do it) - very cheap anyway - reported by players on their forums

    WildStar - same as Defiance : You can respec AMP points simply by clicking on the “Buy full Amp reset” button in the bottom left corner of the AMP screen. The more AMP points you spend, the more respec costs. At level 15, you’ll get possibility to create and save the second ability set with new AMP point choices.

    The Secret World - free

    Star Conflict - - 1 Token . In order to be able to respec your character, you must first have a Retraining Token, or have been granted a free respec by the developers. Retraining Tokens can either be purchased from the in-game Zen Market under the Services category, or they can be purchased on your character sheet in the Powers, Feats, and Boons tabs in the lower left corner of their respective window.

    Skyforge - unlimited skill points. no need to respec

    Marvel Heroes - free with a quest or an item drop of a retcon potion. can be also purchased if too lazy to kill a mob.

    Lord of the Rings Online: apparently the only similar or even one worse than TESO.
    It is a three part calculation:
    1) Current level of the character
    2) Current number of specialization points
    3) Is the first respec

    Each time a value goes up in category 1, 2 or 3 the cost goes up. You paid 88 silvers on your level 28 Minstrel for first respec. Do it again at level 28, it will cost you more.

    Star Trek Online - free at start, then fixed price: respec tokens can be purchased either for 20,000 Refined dilithium icon.png or from the C-Store.

    Archeage - almost free - very cheap price reported by players

    Blade and Soul - free - you cannot do it while in combat.

    Tera - almost free - the price is the gold reward for completing a regular quest.

    Aion - respec doesn't exist. As you level skills become available, you buy the the skill for your character. You don't get unlimited skills, you have a tree that grows with your level and character. example level 5 skills become available so you buy the skill book for your char. then later on at 9 and so on.

    Runescape - free respec when you finish the story line.

    DC Universe Online - no need to, as reported by players: unlimited points ... but there's the option, as I would like to see it in TESO also : "You need 500 in game cash to respec
    The re-spec machine gets more expensive (500, 650, …) each time you use it, but it resets to 500 if you wait 24 hours.
    Don’t forget that you can earn additional skill points by completing feats. 100 feat points for a skill point. So, maybe you don’t have to respec just earn additional skill points."

    Neverwinter - free at level 60, one time, after it is very cheap. You should get a free respec at max level, and there's absolutely no reason to do it until then. Once there, acquiring the currency to purchase a respec is not burdensome.

    EVE Online - NO respec :)) you sell your char if you don't want it anymore :smiley:

    Rift - very cheap - It's really cheap to reset your souls. There is a requirement though, you have to unlock the souls by doing quests for them. Buying roles is another option. It allows you to setup different soul sets for a higher price.

    Star Wars: The Old Republic - free - just press a button like in WoW

    Guild Wars 2 - NO respec. You cannot reset hero points

    Final Fantasy 14: A Realm Reborn - fixed price - cheap as a regular quest reward players reported : There's an item you can buy from the grand company vendor for 250 GC seals. Keeper's Hymn.


    My conclusion: I repeat, lower the freakin' respec prices !! :smile:

    I leave you guys to compare and decide. THE ONLY GREEDY company here is Zenimax, with the HIGHEST PRICES in the entire MMO's industry, using as an official excuse the economy of the servers ... BS IMO. If their economy lies on skills respecs ... lol ... clearly it's a lie. They just want to make more money from that 700 crowns scroll. No, I will not buy it.

    One hour of research completed ... I didn't get the chance to play this evening, but I hope it was for a good cause ... this is why I don't want to reply here on forums.

    Thanks again.

    BTW, to support me even more, DO NOT BUY the respec scroll.

    Best wishes ... and please stop using my name here :))))) I will receive again an automated e-mail :P

    If it has a cost, even if it is a single unit of the lowest currency, it is not "almost free". There is no such thing; it either has a price or it doesn't.
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  • Gargath
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    More characters than those 8 available would solve the respeccing problem once for all.
    Take example from swtor, why they can have so many and eso only 8, the same number for subs and non-subs. Instead of respeccing I want to create a new free character. If I'm eso+ I should not pay extra for 9 th or 10- th alt, they should be my advantage over non-sub accounts.
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  • DragonBound
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    taiji2078 wrote: »
    Hello,

    I have a "just sitting" Nightblade that I use for crafting in all professions. It's main role was pvp and some random dungeons as dd. This evening I wanted to try a tank spec ... but well ... 20.000+ gold to spend just to try a tank. SInce I cannot play much, I do not have that gold to just throw away on a simple "try".

    I know you want to sell Crowns for the respec scrolls ... but seriously ... I just teleported back when I saw that I need to spend so much just to try a new spec.

    ... and don't get me wrong ... I'm ESO+ for the silly bag, I just spent 20.000+ crowns for a nice "little" useless house with some furniture and assistants in it, mostly because I want to support you guys, so you carry on with this game that I like :)
    But to spend real money (crowns) or a HUGE amount of gold for a game mechanic that is (almost or just) free in most MMO's is just pickpocketing your customers :))

    I will not start naming other games, you can google them. The most famous is free. Why yours is so pricy ??? The server economical reason you had 2 years ago to keep this price up isn't valid anymore. The game evolved and I like it as it is now. Please align yourself to all other MMO's and at least give us the liberty to play the game as we like. I'm already paying 1000+ gold for repairs in daily dungeons ... Should I just leave the instance when I see a low level ? No. I'm staying to help, even if this is going to cost me big.

    I will not reply here, since I barely have time to play ... but this was too important so I decided to sacrifice some gameplay time to ask you to lower the prices on respecs.
    Feel free to flame, correct my errors, whatever you like to keep this thread up.

    Thank you for reading.

    Sorry for my bad english: you already know it's not my mother language.

    It is not that bad, look into crafting and making some money friend. Anyways it is for the good of the game.
  • Magdalina
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    ...why are you even respeccing? There's like 350++(? I really don't remember the number I got on my maxed out main last time I did it) skillpoints in the game, my main has all crafts maxed(don't have some passives I don't need though, like trait research time after having finished research), light armor, heavy armor, some medium armor(passives I mean), racial, mages' guild(all passives, most actives), fighters' guild(some passives, just a couple actives), destro staff(most of it), resto staff(same), s&b, all class passives/actives, all alliance war passives, a few actives too...see where I'm going yet? There're heaps of skillpoints in this game. Just go play it, collect the skyshards, do the main quests, run dungeons, do public dungeon challenges and let's not forget every pvp rank giving a skillpoint too. There is enough to do...well not completely everything but really a lot. If you invest in every single passive, yes it will be an issue so choose carefully ;) But you can absolutely do all three roles with one character without respeccing, though some morph choices will be sub optimal for certain roles.

    Cp is actually bit more of an issue as ideally cp allocation would differ quite a bit for different roles and respeccing that every time is annoying. Ironically though you don't seem to have an issue with that part.

    Attribute points can be worked around, most tank builds don't need (m)any points on health, I hardly have any even on my blazeplar currently, you just get what you need from armor enchants/sets/mundus so you can easily dps/tank with same attribute points setup.
    For me it is not about prices. It is about the fact that it so annoying when you want to re-roll from stamina to magicka build, so you rest skills and put skill points that prevoisly were in "dual Wiled" into destro staff etc.

    But... the 95% of skill points you put exactly were they ware before (crafting, guilds, world etc). It is so stupid to reset 250 skill points and put 30 points different and the rest 220 you spend AGAIN on the same passives and skills.. :#

    Why not earn 30 more skillpoints so you can have points in both those trees at the same time? Pretty sure there's way over 300 skillpoints out there.
    Edited by Magdalina on March 6, 2017 7:39PM
  • idk
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    taiji2078 wrote: »
    You support my work by posting replies here. SO THANK YOU ALL !!! :smile:

    The system sent me an e-mail to check the messages here ... so here I am ... spending more time for this issue (this as a proof that I'm really serious about it).

    It was a full respec in 20k - (skills for about 12k, attributes for 3k and CP's for 3k).
    I have points invested in everything ... guilds, war, world including vampire and legerdemain, full class trees, ALL professions ... and not enough left for 1h+shield and 2h, since I have healing, destro, bow, 2h full :)) I know it's a mess. Only resetting the morphs isn't providing me enough points ... it is actually what I did in the end only to be able to add more points in one profession that I needed finish leveling these days.

    I played this game much more 2 years ago, a bit less one year ago, but then I had to abandon it, due to personal life issues.
    When I left the game, a respec was nothing compared to what it costs today.

    So here we go ... I took the top MMO's at the beginning of 2017 (http://www.gamesradar.com/best-mmorpg/) and checked each of them on forums and official pages. It took me more than one hour. I'm not doing this for you dear players, but actually for the mods to see and eventually report it to the devs. I didn't post the links, to avoid overloading my already huge post. You can manually search each name of the game followed by the word "respec". You will get my results below :


    World of Warcraft - free - this game I was talking about - I'm sure you knew it :smile:

    Black Desert Online - cost (fixed price) 900 coins for a full respec (fixed price). 1 respec free at level 45, then 1 skill respec free / week

    Albion Online - no respec needed

    Allods Online - free respec

    Defiance - free at start, pay more each time you respec (based on how many times you do it) - very cheap anyway - reported by players on their forums

    WildStar - same as Defiance : You can respec AMP points simply by clicking on the “Buy full Amp reset” button in the bottom left corner of the AMP screen. The more AMP points you spend, the more respec costs. At level 15, you’ll get possibility to create and save the second ability set with new AMP point choices.

    The Secret World - free

    Star Conflict - - 1 Token . In order to be able to respec your character, you must first have a Retraining Token, or have been granted a free respec by the developers. Retraining Tokens can either be purchased from the in-game Zen Market under the Services category, or they can be purchased on your character sheet in the Powers, Feats, and Boons tabs in the lower left corner of their respective window.

    Skyforge - unlimited skill points. no need to respec

    Marvel Heroes - free with a quest or an item drop of a retcon potion. can be also purchased if too lazy to kill a mob.

    Lord of the Rings Online: apparently the only similar or even one worse than TESO.
    It is a three part calculation:
    1) Current level of the character
    2) Current number of specialization points
    3) Is the first respec

    Each time a value goes up in category 1, 2 or 3 the cost goes up. You paid 88 silvers on your level 28 Minstrel for first respec. Do it again at level 28, it will cost you more.

    Star Trek Online - free at start, then fixed price: respec tokens can be purchased either for 20,000 Refined dilithium icon.png or from the C-Store.

    Archeage - almost free - very cheap price reported by players

    Blade and Soul - free - you cannot do it while in combat.

    Tera - almost free - the price is the gold reward for completing a regular quest.

    Aion - respec doesn't exist. As you level skills become available, you buy the the skill for your character. You don't get unlimited skills, you have a tree that grows with your level and character. example level 5 skills become available so you buy the skill book for your char. then later on at 9 and so on.

    Runescape - free respec when you finish the story line.

    DC Universe Online - no need to, as reported by players: unlimited points ... but there's the option, as I would like to see it in TESO also : "You need 500 in game cash to respec
    The re-spec machine gets more expensive (500, 650, …) each time you use it, but it resets to 500 if you wait 24 hours.
    Don’t forget that you can earn additional skill points by completing feats. 100 feat points for a skill point. So, maybe you don’t have to respec just earn additional skill points."

    Neverwinter - free at level 60, one time, after it is very cheap. You should get a free respec at max level, and there's absolutely no reason to do it until then. Once there, acquiring the currency to purchase a respec is not burdensome.

    EVE Online - NO respec :)) you sell your char if you don't want it anymore :smiley:

    Rift - very cheap - It's really cheap to reset your souls. There is a requirement though, you have to unlock the souls by doing quests for them. Buying roles is another option. It allows you to setup different soul sets for a higher price.

    Star Wars: The Old Republic - free - just press a button like in WoW

    Guild Wars 2 - NO respec. You cannot reset hero points

    Final Fantasy 14: A Realm Reborn - fixed price - cheap as a regular quest reward players reported : There's an item you can buy from the grand company vendor for 250 GC seals. Keeper's Hymn.


    My conclusion: I repeat, lower the freakin' respec prices !! :smile:

    I leave you guys to compare and decide. THE ONLY GREEDY company here is Zenimax, with the HIGHEST PRICES in the entire MMO's industry, using as an official excuse the economy of the servers ... BS IMO. If their economy lies on skills respecs ... lol ... clearly it's a lie. They just want to make more money from that 700 crowns scroll. No, I will not buy it.

    One hour of research completed ... I didn't get the chance to play this evening, but I hope it was for a good cause ... this is why I don't want to reply here on forums.

    Thanks again.

    BTW, to support me even more, DO NOT BUY the respec scroll.

    Best wishes ... and please stop using my name here :))))) I will receive again an automated e-mail :P

    @taiji2078

    First off the games you mentioned that are Arc games such as Star Trek are a mistake it mention here. Full respec (which is what your talking about) costs a token that can only be obtained via RL cash or serious grinding for a specific currency and trading on an in game auction for the ink currency that can be used to purchase the respec token. Specifically your comments on neverwinter are highly inaccurate unless they've changed the design, unlikely in that game.

    Second, many of the games you mentioned I've not heard of and probably not worth hearing about.

    Eve, selling your character is really a reply your providing?

    Other points you made were games that had enough skill points or unlimited yes you clearly didn't respec 1/2 the skill points available in ESO so those comparisons get tossed out. BTW, I have 4 characters with over 300 SP

    And you say Zos is the greediest company in the lot yet we respect in game with in game gold that's easily my obtainable.

    On a serious note. Try again

    lol can dps at least 2 roles on almost all characters, all three roles on 1 character without changing any points. If serious for a trial will change CP which will make more than double the costs of changing CP twice with the clear of the trial.

    You can think as you wish. Free world for that but I am reminded that you compared respecting in this game to Arc games, especially Neverwinter. Lol
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    If all you did was fish, you could easily make 10k an hour, getting perfect roe and selling in guild stores.
    There are so many ways of making gold if you are willing to partake in the social aspect of MMO.
    I'm selling every homestead design that's blue or purple. And also the green ones I've already learned. This way I've made 2 million gold in 3 weeks.

    BTW @taiji2078, I don't understand why you are complaining about gold when you bought the ebonheart chateau. I'm still living in my closet.
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    Omg. He bought a manor and is complaining about respec costs and that it should be avaiaobek to everyone, not just the rich?

    Lol. Thread really needs to be closed.
  • Darkestnght
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    I suggest going out and get some more skill points. There are 368 in the game, more than enough to max out a lot of skill lines. Plus you will make gold while getting those skill points more than likely.

    Just a thought.
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  • bwc.maneke_ESO
    So I know this is an Old Topic, Well Im a New Player. Ive seen it posted that it costs 50g Per skill Point.

    Okay then Why does mine say 14,884!? and not anything other then a round number?

    That means I have 297.68! Skill Points ... Where the F is this .68?

    The Point is my fellow gamers this is just too much when all I wanted to do is swap 2 skill points, Yeah 2! And while that may seem like not alot to the rest of you old vets or money bag mc gee's out there 14k is absurd.

    This needs to be changed to something more like 50g Per Skill You Regain or Reassign! or better yet literally anything else then tie'ing this arbitrary number to the current value of assigned skill points since You Literally have Hundreds of skills and something like a current Max of what 360Ish Did anyone even think about that Or did they not care that I could and will potentially screw over casual players?

    We should not be punished for wanting to change things.
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    taiji2078 wrote: »
    Hello,

    I have a "just sitting" Nightblade that I use for crafting in all professions. It's main role was pvp and some random dungeons as dd. This evening I wanted to try a tank spec ... but well ... 20.000+ gold to spend just to try a tank. SInce I cannot play much, I do not have that gold to just throw away on a simple "try".

    I know you want to sell Crowns for the respec scrolls ... but seriously ... I just teleported back when I saw that I need to spend so much just to try a new spec.

    ... and don't get me wrong ... I'm ESO+ for the silly bag, I just spent 20.000+ crowns for a nice "little" useless house with some furniture and assistants in it, mostly because I want to support you guys, so you carry on with this game that I like :)
    But to spend real money (crowns) or a HUGE amount of gold for a game mechanic that is (almost or just) free in most MMO's is just pickpocketing your customers :))

    I will not start naming other games, you can google them. The most famous is free. Why yours is so pricy ??? The server economical reason you had 2 years ago to keep this price up isn't valid anymore. The game evolved and I like it as it is now. Please align yourself to all other MMO's and at least give us the liberty to play the game as we like. I'm already paying 1000+ gold for repairs in daily dungeons ... Should I just leave the instance when I see a low level ? No. I'm staying to help, even if this is going to cost me big.

    I will not reply here, since I barely have time to play ... but this was too important so I decided to sacrifice some gameplay time to ask you to lower the prices on respecs.
    Feel free to flame, correct my errors, whatever you like to keep this thread up.

    Thank you for reading.

    Sorry for my bad english: you already know it's not my mother language.

    name said mmo because no MMO i played lets you respec for free, heck no single player game lets you respec for free there is always a cost to balance it out whether it is in game gold, out of game money, time, and/or rare materials.

    games need money sinks or the games economy tanks. ff11 has a economic crash due to rmt adding too much gil to the game, and not enough stuff to take it out. ff14 the mmo i quit to play this was hitting a crash, it already has inflation.
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    taiji2078 wrote: »
    I'm already paying 1000+ gold for repairs in daily dungeons ... Should I just leave the instance when I see a low level ? No. I'm staying to help, even if this is going to cost me big.

    If repairs are costing you 1000g, you're doing something wrong, I ran 3 dungeons today. Two on Vet and one normal. My repair cost at the end was 200g. Oh, and since I loot EVERYTHING, the value of just the junk I sold to the vendor was around 2.1k gold.

    You shouldn't need to do a FULL respec every time you want to change specs. Just change morphs. That's going to cost you around 200g.

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    So I know this is an Old Topic, Well Im a New Player. Ive seen it posted that it costs 50g Per skill Point.

    Okay then Why does mine say 14,884!? and not anything other then a round number?

    That means I have 297.68! Skill Points ... Where the F is this .68?

    The Point is my fellow gamers this is just too much when all I wanted to do is swap 2 skill points, Yeah 2! And while that may seem like not alot to the rest of you old vets or money bag mc gee's out there 14k is absurd.

    This needs to be changed to something more like 50g Per Skill You Regain or Reassign! or better yet literally anything else then tie'ing this arbitrary number to the current value of assigned skill points since You Literally have Hundreds of skills and something like a current Max of what 360Ish Did anyone even think about that Or did they not care that I could and will potentially screw over casual players?

    We should not be punished for wanting to change things.

    @bwc.maneke_ESO

    Right now the skill points are 1 gold per but it's messed up showing odd numbers. You still have to have the gold it says on you, but it will only remove 1 gold per from your inventory. Normally it's exactly 50g per with no odd numbers.

    But yeah if you have 300 skill points normally it will cost 15k even if you just want to change 2, but at the point you have so many that it costs so much it will be pretty easy to make the gold plus you have less little changes since you have so many skill points you can afford to have extra skills.
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    I can't understand that: why people always refer to other MMOs? This is ESO and them are OTHER MMOs! In any case, never had problem with gold in this game... dunno what's the problem.
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    erickhwk wrote: »
    Respec only the morphs. It's a way cheaper.

    I read this in the voice of Mario.

    It's a way cheaper. wahooo
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    We have closed this thread as it is old and contains outdated information. Please feel free to check the patch notes more information about the Respec System changes in Update 19: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/patch-notes
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