
World of Warcraft - free - this game I was talking about - I'm sure you knew it
Black Desert Online - cost (fixed price) 900 coins for a full respec (fixed price). 1 respec free at level 45, then 1 skill respec free / week
BDO? Possibly the worst one in your list.
TheShadowScout wrote: »Personally I find the respec prices quite all right.
Easily earnable for an endgame character, but not so cheap as to make choices all meaningless and let people respec twice a day.
I for one think they got the right balance between "pay cash" and "free"...
WatchYourSixx wrote: »Skill respecs originally were 1000 gold per skill point. It was quickly changed to 100 gold and then when they added morph respecs, they lowered the cost to 50g per. I don't want to hear anyone complaining about respecs costing a lot if you didn't play back in the first year of ESO. It costs NOTHING in comparison to what it used to be.
Also, for what it's worth, WoW was 10,000 gold for a full respec back in BC and WotLK. Then it was dropped to a reasonable 1000 gold until sometime after Mists. I guess it's free now? Haven't played in 3 years.
You don't need to respec skill points and CPs to do different roles like you describe. You just need to swap gear and what skills you have slotted on your bar. I do it all the time: often multiple times during the course of playing for a couple of hours. I've got characters who swap between DPS, tank, healer, and stealth builds without doing any respecs. In fact, at a minimum all of my characters swap between DPS and stealth builds, while most also have tank builds, and maybe half have healer builds (the magicka-based characters obviously).timb16_ESO85 wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »Personally I find the respec prices quite all right.
Easily earnable for an endgame character, but not so cheap as to make choices all meaningless and let people respec twice a day.
I for one think they got the right balance between "pay cash" and "free"...
Really wish I could afford to respec twice a day, once to switch from my solo build to tanking (champion + morphs) to do the daily undaunted dungeons, and then once back to do the daily quests (mainly craglorn and wrothgar for motifs). The current system forces me to choose if I either want to do dungeons, or play solo for the next few days.
Hopefully, some day they introduce a system in which you could save 2 builds and freely switch between them, just like weapon swapping, but then with complete gear, skills and champion point. Of course, since a gold sink is still required, altering the points for each preset should still cost gold, but this would lighten the burden on tanks and healers wanting to play both solo and in a group.
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Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC) Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC) Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP) Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD) J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD) |
Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP) Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC) Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP) Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC) Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp |
Now that would be awesome. My biggest problem with doing a skill respec is that I'll sometimes forget to put skill points in certain passives that I had them in before and that I really want. If you could choose on a skill line basis what to respec, then I wouldn't ever have that problem.Whatever happened to the devs allowing us to respec eack skill line seperately? I'd like to be able to respec one or two lines without having to do all of them. It would cut down in some of the expense. This needs to happen.
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Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC) Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC) Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP) Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD) J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD) |
Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP) Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC) Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP) Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC) Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp |
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The system sent me an e-mail to check the messages here ... so here I am ... spending more time for this issue (this as a proof that I'm really serious about it).
It was a full respec in 20k - (skills for about 12k, attributes for 3k and CP's for 3k).
I have points invested in everything ... guilds, war, world including vampire and legerdemain, full class trees, ALL professions ... and not enough left for 1h+shield and 2h, since I have healing, destro, bow, 2h full) I know it's a mess. Only resetting the morphs isn't providing me enough points ... it is actually what I did in the end only to be able to add more points in one profession that I needed finish leveling these days.
I played this game much more 2 years ago, a bit less one year ago, but then I had to abandon it, due to personal life issues.
When I left the game, a respec was nothing compared to what it costs today.
So here we go ... I took the top MMO's at the beginning of 2017 (http://www.gamesradar.com/best-mmorpg/) and checked each of them on forums and official pages. It took me more than one hour. I'm not doing this for you dear players, but actually for the mods to see and eventually report it to the devs. I didn't post the links, to avoid overloading my already huge post. You can manually search each name of the game followed by the word "respec". You will get my results below :
World of Warcraft - free - this game I was talking about - I'm sure you knew it
Black Desert Online - cost (fixed price) 900 coins for a full respec (fixed price). 1 respec free at level 45, then 1 skill respec free / week
Albion Online - no respec needed
Allods Online - free respec
Defiance - free at start, pay more each time you respec (based on how many times you do it) - very cheap anyway - reported by players on their forums
WildStar - same as Defiance : You can respec AMP points simply by clicking on the “Buy full Amp reset” button in the bottom left corner of the AMP screen. The more AMP points you spend, the more respec costs. At level 15, you’ll get possibility to create and save the second ability set with new AMP point choices.
The Secret World - free
Star Conflict - - 1 Token . In order to be able to respec your character, you must first have a Retraining Token, or have been granted a free respec by the developers. Retraining Tokens can either be purchased from the in-game Zen Market under the Services category, or they can be purchased on your character sheet in the Powers, Feats, and Boons tabs in the lower left corner of their respective window.
Skyforge - unlimited skill points. no need to respec
Marvel Heroes - free with a quest or an item drop of a retcon potion. can be also purchased if too lazy to kill a mob.
Lord of the Rings Online: apparently the only similar or even one worse than TESO.
It is a three part calculation:
1) Current level of the character
2) Current number of specialization points
3) Is the first respec
Each time a value goes up in category 1, 2 or 3 the cost goes up. You paid 88 silvers on your level 28 Minstrel for first respec. Do it again at level 28, it will cost you more.
Star Trek Online - free at start, then fixed price: respec tokens can be purchased either for 20,000 Refined dilithium icon.png or from the C-Store.
Archeage - almost free - very cheap price reported by players
Blade and Soul - free - you cannot do it while in combat.
Tera - almost free - the price is the gold reward for completing a regular quest.
Aion - respec doesn't exist. As you level skills become available, you buy the the skill for your character. You don't get unlimited skills, you have a tree that grows with your level and character. example level 5 skills become available so you buy the skill book for your char. then later on at 9 and so on.
Runescape - free respec when you finish the story line.
DC Universe Online - no need to, as reported by players: unlimited points ... but there's the option, as I would like to see it in TESO also : "You need 500 in game cash to respec
The re-spec machine gets more expensive (500, 650, …) each time you use it, but it resets to 500 if you wait 24 hours.
Don’t forget that you can earn additional skill points by completing feats. 100 feat points for a skill point. So, maybe you don’t have to respec just earn additional skill points."
Neverwinter - free at level 60, one time, after it is very cheap. You should get a free respec at max level, and there's absolutely no reason to do it until then. Once there, acquiring the currency to purchase a respec is not burdensome.
EVE Online - NO respec) you sell your char if you don't want it anymore
Rift - very cheap - It's really cheap to reset your souls. There is a requirement though, you have to unlock the souls by doing quests for them. Buying roles is another option. It allows you to setup different soul sets for a higher price.
Star Wars: The Old Republic - free - just press a button like in WoW
Guild Wars 2 - NO respec. You cannot reset hero points
Final Fantasy 14: A Realm Reborn - fixed price - cheap as a regular quest reward players reported : There's an item you can buy from the grand company vendor for 250 GC seals. Keeper's Hymn.
My conclusion: I repeat, lower the freakin' respec prices !!
I leave you guys to compare and decide. THE ONLY GREEDY company here is Zenimax, with the HIGHEST PRICES in the entire MMO's industry, using as an official excuse the economy of the servers ... BS IMO. If their economy lies on skills respecs ... lol ... clearly it's a lie. They just want to make more money from that 700 crowns scroll. No, I will not buy it.
One hour of research completed ... I didn't get the chance to play this evening, but I hope it was for a good cause ... this is why I don't want to reply here on forums.
Thanks again.
BTW, to support me even more, DO NOT BUY the respec scroll.
Best wishes ... and please stop using my name here)))) I will receive again an automated e-mail :P
Hello,
I have a "just sitting" Nightblade that I use for crafting in all professions. It's main role was pvp and some random dungeons as dd. This evening I wanted to try a tank spec ... but well ... 20.000+ gold to spend just to try a tank. SInce I cannot play much, I do not have that gold to just throw away on a simple "try".
I know you want to sell Crowns for the respec scrolls ... but seriously ... I just teleported back when I saw that I need to spend so much just to try a new spec.
... and don't get me wrong ... I'm ESO+ for the silly bag, I just spent 20.000+ crowns for a nice "little" useless house with some furniture and assistants in it, mostly because I want to support you guys, so you carry on with this game that I like
But to spend real money (crowns) or a HUGE amount of gold for a game mechanic that is (almost or just) free in most MMO's is just pickpocketing your customers)
I will not start naming other games, you can google them. The most famous is free. Why yours is so pricy ??? The server economical reason you had 2 years ago to keep this price up isn't valid anymore. The game evolved and I like it as it is now. Please align yourself to all other MMO's and at least give us the liberty to play the game as we like. I'm already paying 1000+ gold for repairs in daily dungeons ... Should I just leave the instance when I see a low level ? No. I'm staying to help, even if this is going to cost me big.
I will not reply here, since I barely have time to play ... but this was too important so I decided to sacrifice some gameplay time to ask you to lower the prices on respecs.
Feel free to flame, correct my errors, whatever you like to keep this thread up.
Thank you for reading.
Sorry for my bad english: you already know it's not my mother language.
Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »For me it is not about prices. It is about the fact that it so annoying when you want to re-roll from stamina to magicka build, so you rest skills and put skill points that prevoisly were in "dual Wiled" into destro staff etc.
But... the 95% of skill points you put exactly were they ware before (crafting, guilds, world etc). It is so stupid to reset 250 skill points and put 30 points different and the rest 220 you spend AGAIN on the same passives and skills..
You support my work by posting replies here. SO THANK YOU ALL !!!
The system sent me an e-mail to check the messages here ... so here I am ... spending more time for this issue (this as a proof that I'm really serious about it).
It was a full respec in 20k - (skills for about 12k, attributes for 3k and CP's for 3k).
I have points invested in everything ... guilds, war, world including vampire and legerdemain, full class trees, ALL professions ... and not enough left for 1h+shield and 2h, since I have healing, destro, bow, 2h full) I know it's a mess. Only resetting the morphs isn't providing me enough points ... it is actually what I did in the end only to be able to add more points in one profession that I needed finish leveling these days.
I played this game much more 2 years ago, a bit less one year ago, but then I had to abandon it, due to personal life issues.
When I left the game, a respec was nothing compared to what it costs today.
So here we go ... I took the top MMO's at the beginning of 2017 (http://www.gamesradar.com/best-mmorpg/) and checked each of them on forums and official pages. It took me more than one hour. I'm not doing this for you dear players, but actually for the mods to see and eventually report it to the devs. I didn't post the links, to avoid overloading my already huge post. You can manually search each name of the game followed by the word "respec". You will get my results below :
World of Warcraft - free - this game I was talking about - I'm sure you knew it
Black Desert Online - cost (fixed price) 900 coins for a full respec (fixed price). 1 respec free at level 45, then 1 skill respec free / week
Albion Online - no respec needed
Allods Online - free respec
Defiance - free at start, pay more each time you respec (based on how many times you do it) - very cheap anyway - reported by players on their forums
WildStar - same as Defiance : You can respec AMP points simply by clicking on the “Buy full Amp reset” button in the bottom left corner of the AMP screen. The more AMP points you spend, the more respec costs. At level 15, you’ll get possibility to create and save the second ability set with new AMP point choices.
The Secret World - free
Star Conflict - - 1 Token . In order to be able to respec your character, you must first have a Retraining Token, or have been granted a free respec by the developers. Retraining Tokens can either be purchased from the in-game Zen Market under the Services category, or they can be purchased on your character sheet in the Powers, Feats, and Boons tabs in the lower left corner of their respective window.
Skyforge - unlimited skill points. no need to respec
Marvel Heroes - free with a quest or an item drop of a retcon potion. can be also purchased if too lazy to kill a mob.
Lord of the Rings Online: apparently the only similar or even one worse than TESO.
It is a three part calculation:
1) Current level of the character
2) Current number of specialization points
3) Is the first respec
Each time a value goes up in category 1, 2 or 3 the cost goes up. You paid 88 silvers on your level 28 Minstrel for first respec. Do it again at level 28, it will cost you more.
Star Trek Online - free at start, then fixed price: respec tokens can be purchased either for 20,000 Refined dilithium icon.png or from the C-Store.
Archeage - almost free - very cheap price reported by players
Blade and Soul - free - you cannot do it while in combat.
Tera - almost free - the price is the gold reward for completing a regular quest.
Aion - respec doesn't exist. As you level skills become available, you buy the the skill for your character. You don't get unlimited skills, you have a tree that grows with your level and character. example level 5 skills become available so you buy the skill book for your char. then later on at 9 and so on.
Runescape - free respec when you finish the story line.
DC Universe Online - no need to, as reported by players: unlimited points ... but there's the option, as I would like to see it in TESO also : "You need 500 in game cash to respec
The re-spec machine gets more expensive (500, 650, …) each time you use it, but it resets to 500 if you wait 24 hours.
Don’t forget that you can earn additional skill points by completing feats. 100 feat points for a skill point. So, maybe you don’t have to respec just earn additional skill points."
Neverwinter - free at level 60, one time, after it is very cheap. You should get a free respec at max level, and there's absolutely no reason to do it until then. Once there, acquiring the currency to purchase a respec is not burdensome.
EVE Online - NO respec) you sell your char if you don't want it anymore
Rift - very cheap - It's really cheap to reset your souls. There is a requirement though, you have to unlock the souls by doing quests for them. Buying roles is another option. It allows you to setup different soul sets for a higher price.
Star Wars: The Old Republic - free - just press a button like in WoW
Guild Wars 2 - NO respec. You cannot reset hero points
Final Fantasy 14: A Realm Reborn - fixed price - cheap as a regular quest reward players reported : There's an item you can buy from the grand company vendor for 250 GC seals. Keeper's Hymn.
My conclusion: I repeat, lower the freakin' respec prices !!
I leave you guys to compare and decide. THE ONLY GREEDY company here is Zenimax, with the HIGHEST PRICES in the entire MMO's industry, using as an official excuse the economy of the servers ... BS IMO. If their economy lies on skills respecs ... lol ... clearly it's a lie. They just want to make more money from that 700 crowns scroll. No, I will not buy it.
One hour of research completed ... I didn't get the chance to play this evening, but I hope it was for a good cause ... this is why I don't want to reply here on forums.
Thanks again.
BTW, to support me even more, DO NOT BUY the respec scroll.
Best wishes ... and please stop using my name here)))) I will receive again an automated e-mail :P
kyle.wilson wrote: »If all you did was fish, you could easily make 10k an hour, getting perfect roe and selling in guild stores.
There are so many ways of making gold if you are willing to partake in the social aspect of MMO.
I'm selling every homestead design that's blue or purple. And also the green ones I've already learned. This way I've made 2 million gold in 3 weeks.
BTW @taiji2078, I don't understand why you are complaining about gold when you bought the ebonheart chateau. I'm still living in my closet.
Hello,
I have a "just sitting" Nightblade that I use for crafting in all professions. It's main role was pvp and some random dungeons as dd. This evening I wanted to try a tank spec ... but well ... 20.000+ gold to spend just to try a tank. SInce I cannot play much, I do not have that gold to just throw away on a simple "try".
I know you want to sell Crowns for the respec scrolls ... but seriously ... I just teleported back when I saw that I need to spend so much just to try a new spec.
... and don't get me wrong ... I'm ESO+ for the silly bag, I just spent 20.000+ crowns for a nice "little" useless house with some furniture and assistants in it, mostly because I want to support you guys, so you carry on with this game that I like
But to spend real money (crowns) or a HUGE amount of gold for a game mechanic that is (almost or just) free in most MMO's is just pickpocketing your customers)
I will not start naming other games, you can google them. The most famous is free. Why yours is so pricy ??? The server economical reason you had 2 years ago to keep this price up isn't valid anymore. The game evolved and I like it as it is now. Please align yourself to all other MMO's and at least give us the liberty to play the game as we like. I'm already paying 1000+ gold for repairs in daily dungeons ... Should I just leave the instance when I see a low level ? No. I'm staying to help, even if this is going to cost me big.
I will not reply here, since I barely have time to play ... but this was too important so I decided to sacrifice some gameplay time to ask you to lower the prices on respecs.
Feel free to flame, correct my errors, whatever you like to keep this thread up.
Thank you for reading.
Sorry for my bad english: you already know it's not my mother language.
I'm already paying 1000+ gold for repairs in daily dungeons ... Should I just leave the instance when I see a low level ? No. I'm staying to help, even if this is going to cost me big.
bwc.maneke_ESO wrote: »So I know this is an Old Topic, Well Im a New Player. Ive seen it posted that it costs 50g Per skill Point.
Okay then Why does mine say 14,884!? and not anything other then a round number?
That means I have 297.68! Skill Points ... Where the F is this .68?
The Point is my fellow gamers this is just too much when all I wanted to do is swap 2 skill points, Yeah 2! And while that may seem like not alot to the rest of you old vets or money bag mc gee's out there 14k is absurd.
This needs to be changed to something more like 50g Per Skill You Regain or Reassign! or better yet literally anything else then tie'ing this arbitrary number to the current value of assigned skill points since You Literally have Hundreds of skills and something like a current Max of what 360Ish Did anyone even think about that Or did they not care that I could and will potentially screw over casual players?
We should not be punished for wanting to change things.