Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.
KingYogi415 wrote: »Yet another thread where a L2P noob crys to try to lower the skillcap.
#carebearsaretakingover#!
Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.
Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.
So what do they accomplish killing you in the middle of nowhere? Theres not much of a penalty to dieing in this game. If its in a battle that matters, you will get rezed or your side is defeated anyway. How is it any different than being zerged down?
The reason I will run as a ganker is I do not want to zerg up or don't have people I am grouping with little small scale fights being few and far between.
Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.
So what do they accomplish killing you in the middle of nowhere? Theres not much of a penalty to dieing in this game. If its in a battle that matters, you will get rezed or your side is defeated anyway. How is it any different than being zerged down?
The reason I will run as a ganker is I do not want to zerg up or don't have people I am grouping with little small scale fights being few and far between.
You never had the experience of getting ganked while you are fighting against multiple players, then suddenly a nb from stealth shows up and you get one shotted from a heavy attack, i tell you it's pretty annoying.
KingYogi415 wrote: »Yet another thread where a L2P noob crys to try to lower the skillcap.
#carebearsaretakingover#!
This would actually raise the skillcap, if you were forced to actually use some skills other then just heavy attack.
Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.
So what do they accomplish killing you in the middle of nowhere? Theres not much of a penalty to dieing in this game. If its in a battle that matters, you will get rezed or your side is defeated anyway. How is it any different than being zerged down?
The reason I will run as a ganker is I do not want to zerg up or don't have people I am grouping with little small scale fights being few and far between.
You never had the experience of getting ganked while you are fighting against multiple players, then suddenly a nb from stealth shows up and you get one shotted from a heavy attack, i tell you it's pretty annoying.
You're fighting multiple players and your mad you died?
Edit: And LOL. Happens all the time. You fight anyone then boom; 10 guys show up spamming ultimates.
Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.
So what do they accomplish killing you in the middle of nowhere? Theres not much of a penalty to dieing in this game. If its in a battle that matters, you will get rezed or your side is defeated anyway. How is it any different than being zerged down?
The reason I will run as a ganker is I do not want to zerg up or don't have people I am grouping with little small scale fights being few and far between.
You never had the experience of getting ganked while you are fighting against multiple players, then suddenly a nb from stealth shows up and you get one shotted from a heavy attack, i tell you it's pretty annoying.
You're fighting multiple players and your mad you died?
Edit: And LOL. Happens all the time. You fight anyone then boom; 10 guys show up spamming ultimates.
See this is why pvp is turning into ***, You are outnumbered? Guess i should just drop my weapons or hang myself right away.
Skill should be rewarded.
Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.
So what do they accomplish killing you in the middle of nowhere? Theres not much of a penalty to dieing in this game. If its in a battle that matters, you will get rezed or your side is defeated anyway. How is it any different than being zerged down?
The reason I will run as a ganker is I do not want to zerg up or don't have people I am grouping with little small scale fights being few and far between.
You never had the experience of getting ganked while you are fighting against multiple players, then suddenly a nb from stealth shows up and you get one shotted from a heavy attack, i tell you it's pretty annoying.
You're fighting multiple players and your mad you died?
Edit: And LOL. Happens all the time. You fight anyone then boom; 10 guys show up spamming ultimates.
See this is why pvp is turning into ***, You are outnumbered? Guess i should just drop my weapons or hang myself right away.
Skill should be rewarded.
Look at what a single player could do in pvp if he know how the game worked in patch 1.5, it was amazing.
Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.
So what do they accomplish killing you in the middle of nowhere? Theres not much of a penalty to dieing in this game. If its in a battle that matters, you will get rezed or your side is defeated anyway. How is it any different than being zerged down?
The reason I will run as a ganker is I do not want to zerg up or don't have people I am grouping with little small scale fights being few and far between.
You never had the experience of getting ganked while you are fighting against multiple players, then suddenly a nb from stealth shows up and you get one shotted from a heavy attack, i tell you it's pretty annoying.
You're fighting multiple players and your mad you died?
Edit: And LOL. Happens all the time. You fight anyone then boom; 10 guys show up spamming ultimates.
See this is why pvp is turning into ***, You are outnumbered? Guess i should just drop my weapons or hang myself right away.
Skill should be rewarded.
Yeah skill should be rewarded but you are assuming that your skill is better than multiple attackers and a ganker and if that doesn't work, someone needs to get nerfed.
I said it many times and i will say it again, the damage that nb get from stealth is cancerous to the game, it needs to be removed, or at least toned down. It's useless in pve, and it's cancerous in pvp, this "skill" literally adds nothing good to the game, it only icentivize unskillfull playing, and cancerous builds.
I wonder what would happen if all the nb gankers got they're precious buff removed, and would be forced to actually play with skills.
And this comes from a guy that has 2 nb, one magicka and one stamina.
RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »As another long time plaster of this game once said:
"Having access to a spamable invisibility button is either purposely underrated out of bias or ignorance"
It renders every single target skill in the game useless...let that sink in ...over 70% of the games skills are useless against it.
I'm leveling a Nightblade right now, just finishing up his Undaunted, because why not? As bad as folks thought Sorc Streak was/is, the Sorc never:
1. Dissappers
2. Becomes untargetable
You combine shadow image with cloak and blur and you can just be a ninja ripping people. You have 100% control on who, when,where, and how you fight. You always land the first hit,you start every fight on the offensive in your favor, you get a bonus and a stun, your spanable stuns and off balanced targets, and you get Major Ward and Resolve for using it.
In terms of balance, you really shouldn't be able to go invis or stealth again after opening on someone, but it's doubtful
ZOS ever changes it
I'm ok with ganking, but ZOS has given gankers too much of an advantage, that I think needs to be toned down some. Furthermore two handed weapons in TES have never gotten a stealth bonus, and Zos should really remove the two handed stealth bonus in ESO it makes no sense...only daggers and one handed weapons should get it, bows should get half of what daggers and one handed gets without the stun
Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.
So what do they accomplish killing you in the middle of nowhere? Theres not much of a penalty to dieing in this game. If its in a battle that matters, you will get rezed or your side is defeated anyway. How is it any different than being zerged down?
The reason I will run as a ganker is I do not want to zerg up or don't have people I am grouping with little small scale fights being few and far between.
You never had the experience of getting ganked while you are fighting against multiple players, then suddenly a nb from stealth shows up and you get one shotted from a heavy attack, i tell you it's pretty annoying.
You're fighting multiple players and your mad you died?
Edit: And LOL. Happens all the time. You fight anyone then boom; 10 guys show up spamming ultimates.
See this is why pvp is turning into ***, You are outnumbered? Guess i should just drop my weapons or hang myself right away.
Skill should be rewarded.
Look at what a single player could do in pvp if he know how the game worked in patch 1.5, it was amazing.
I said it many times and i will say it again, the damage that nb get from stealth is cancerous to the game, it needs to be removed, or at least toned down. It's useless in pve, and it's cancerous in pvp, this "skill" literally adds nothing good to the game, it only icentivize unskillfull playing, and cancerous builds.
I wonder what would happen if all the nb gankers got they're precious buff removed, and would be forced to actually play with skills.
And this comes from a guy that has 2 nb, one magicka and one stamina.
It's most CERTAINLY NOT useless in pve! It's a staple of my playstyle, don't speak of what you don't understand.
Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.
RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »As another long time plaster of this game once said:
"Having access to a spamable invisibility button is either purposely underrated out of bias or ignorance"
It renders every single target skill in the game useless...let that sink in ...over 70% of the games skills are useless against it.
I'm leveling a Nightblade right now, just finishing up his Undaunted, because why not? As bad as folks thought Sorc Streak was/is, the Sorc never:
1. Dissappers
2. Becomes untargetable
You combine shadow image with cloak and blur and you can just be a ninja ripping people. You have 100% control on who, when,where, and how you fight. You always land the first hit,you start every fight on the offensive in your favor, you get a bonus and a stun, your spanable stuns and off balanced targets, and you get Major Ward and Resolve for using it.
In terms of balance, you really shouldn't be able to go invis or stealth again after opening on someone, but it's doubtful
ZOS ever changes it
I'm ok with ganking, but ZOS has given gankers too much of an advantage, that I think needs to be toned down some. Furthermore two handed weapons in TES have never gotten a stealth bonus, and Zos should really remove the two handed stealth bonus in ESO it makes no sense...only daggers and one handed weapons should get it, bows should get half of what daggers and one handed gets without the stun
Everyone is assuming that i'm a bad player because i don't like this skill, but there are a lot of good players who don't like it, some who are much better then me, you, or anyone that you know, the fact is that you are trying to shut me down by saying that i suck, but i won't fall for that, i stand for what i believe, and i believe that this damage buff is atrocious. I won't take back a single word i said.
What a stupid rant. People who claim that stealthers play "without skill" are just those who don't have the skill themselves to deal with it. Here's an idea -- use radiant magelight to cut damage from stealth in half. Be alert. Use damage shields and/or elude and/or immovable to increase resists. Etc. etc. etc.
Validating it by saying that you have 2 NBs is pointless. I have 3 NB (1 stamina, 1 magicka, 1 tank) and 6 other max-level characters. So yeah, I see it from both sides. Anybody who thinks that a gank from stealth is a sure thing is just plain simple-minded and wrong.
Crouch, cloak, charge a heavy attack, surprise attack, maybe proc set, dead, now tell me where is the skill in this.
How is the other player supposed to react if you don;t see him, the only way to avoid a gank is if you saw the dude before he went into stealth, that's it, you can't counter something if you can't even see it coming.
The skill is surviving the buddies of the guy you just killed. Oh, you were running around by yourself? That's your problem then.
I don't think that most gankers have the guts to attack an entire group, they usually just pick a random guy when no one else is around. If you manage to take down a group by ganking you have my respect, because that actually takes skills, but killing a single guy with the insane burst you get from crouch? no
Everyone here is saying slot magelight, use detect potions etc, but all of that don't take in account one thing, what happens when you have a guy that you didn't see because he was sneaking up your ass from behind, then use crouch and cloak, then heavy attack and Gn you are dead. Those counters only works if you know that there is someone around, who is gonna use radiant or waste a potion if he doesn't know that there is someone around, ill tell you who. No one. I just wish that there was a better way to use a nb in pvp other then ganking, for me sneaking behind players isn't fun.
Yea nb should have some kind of mechanic that increases damage from stealth, but this is way too much.