The "Always Broke Club"

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Cpt_Teemo · February 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

bryanhaas wrote: »

Btw I have wasted too much gold recently down to 2.5

Mil.

I'm down to 14m now....bought the last page of all current ore homestead motifs today. Hard times. I do wonder how some people never have any gold. Seriously farm your gear and stop buying it and stop buying gold mats. Do your writs and get them. Do some dailies and farm motifs. I make over 100k a day just from 2 dailies per toon on 7 toons. It's really not difficult nor time consuming. Too much standing at pride rock doing *** all is what's wrong.

Yeah some people get all the luck, I haven't gotten a single master writ in 11 days on 8 characters crafting one of which is my main crafter with every motif besides 4, and missing 15 more traits.

EldritchPenguin · February 2017

I always think, "I could be rich, but I'd rather level up my three new alts and equip them than farm gold." Which means that I'm spending it, but not earning it.

DRXHarbinger · February 2017

GrumpyMuffin wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

bryanhaas wrote: »

Btw I have wasted too much gold recently down to 2.5

Mil.

I'm down to 14m now....bought the last page of all current ore homestead motifs today. Hard times. I do wonder how some people never have any gold. Seriously farm your gear and stop buying it and stop buying gold mats. Do your writs and get them. Do some dailies and farm motifs. I make over 100k a day just from 2 dailies per toon on 7 toons. It's really not difficult nor time consuming. Too much standing at pride rock doing *** all is what's wrong.

Funny you put it like that. I wonder the exact opposite. Why do people need so much money. Prior to housing, there was nothing to spend millions on

Housing is tomorrow for me. I have nothing to buy. I have all the sets I need, hundreds of gold mats, every single motif page known to date. There is nothing to buy. There hasn't been for ages. Tomorrow I'll drop a few million fo sho. Gotta buy me a mansion and pimp my crib out yo. Honestly I haven't had anything to buy in yonks. I gave the GM 1m just for helping me a while ago. Gold is nothing to me. I'm actually glad to have a gold and AP sink. Got 5.5m AP banked up atm.

Cryptical · February 2017

IronCrystal wrote: »

I think you need rules for the Always Broke Club.

Some people here are talking thousands, others are talking millions.

Agreed. Only reason I'm participating is because I just managed to climb out mere weeks ago, so the climbing method is fresh.

Basically, farm.

There are items that are consumed during gameplay - farm them and you'll have a stable source of income. Farm provisioning and alchemy. Farm materials for the temper/wax. Do consumable writs.

Danikat · February 2017

I'm currently up to 70,000g - the most I've ever had.

I'm trying to save up and buy a house, but I want to get some more bank and bag upgrades too. I might end up doing a mix of both. (It's annoying that buying upgrades with crowns still raises the gold price, I'd be happy to spend crowns but not for all of them and this way it makes it seem like I should hold off as long as possible before buying any.)

As for why always have so little it's a mix of things - I don't have a max level character yet so my options for farming, or even getting lucky drops, are limited. But maybe more importantly I have very limited time to play and I don't enjoy farming so given the choice between grinding out a few thousand gold and doing some quests that might give me 1k in total I'm going to do the quests.

And if you're about to tell me how much I could make farming for 'just a couple of hours a night' you're massively over-estimating what I mean by 'very limited time'. A couple of hours might be all the time I have that week.

LightninTramp · February 2017

With a little time and knowing where to go to easily do it, I earn about 6k to 7k gold per day just by stealing/pickpocketing. And that is just one character. Trafficking is the best passive you'll ever get.

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nimander99 · February 2017

HAHAHA you think youre broke now, wait till you start spending on housing...

grom1024 · February 2017

Easy daily gold:

1. Run random normals. You will get a lot of ornate garbage that could be just sold off. Just subscribe to it, and do other things. Possibly ones below. If you have heal or tank, it takes seconds to get into dungeon. But pls specify correct role, low level groups do need tanks and heals, particularly in 'part 2' and DLC dungeons. I deconstruct (or research) other loot, but mostly because I need mats for crafting writs.
2. Do daily undaunted, fighter guild, mage guild quests (check capital city for this). They give a lot of ornate garbage and white foods in merit reward that could be sold off to merchant. You will occasionally get draugr motif books that could be sold on chat or in the guild store.
3. Do crafting quests. For level 1 profession, it is most profitable, but max level will give you master writs sometimes, that could be sold.
4. Questing, actually it brings quite a lot of gold, and it will give you experience and skill points.

TG dailies could give additional gold, but I would suggest to delay it until cp160. Quest reward could be later sold in guild stores. And they are much easier if you have correct medium armor sets and skill points put in medium armor line. Considering that stamina dps is harder now, this one of places where stamina dps alt could be actually useful.

STEVIL · February 2017

if you have characters at higher level, the tier-1 writs (yes tier-1s) can be great sources for quick constant cash.
the gold is determined by your character level so 640 per writ per char.
the item drops vary between level and craft so half at the ruby if you are cp160 and half at the iron/jute/maple. half ornate and half intrinsic so 255 will be an ornate cp160 worth 150-250 usually.
every equip writ - every one - gives you either a surveys (105 worth tons of mats withg level determined at time of harvest so can be harvested to get all good stuff) or a box (90%) with 25 tier-1 mats which replaces all but about 5 of yout mats used in doing the writs. The items if intrinsic items if decon will make up the slack.
consumable writs just give you the survey (10%) plus always giving you mats basically more numerous than what you burned.
Surveys are just pure profit.

Without a single skill point spent on crafting you can run all six writs every day for every character and in auridon they writs, the crafting stations and the drop off are all right there near each other.

get it down to a science and each char can run six a day for under 10m time. Conservatiuvely you can be looking at 20k per day for very little time and very little other expense.

When i was doing this on a constant basis, the biggest ongoing expense was style tokens at 15g each bought from the smiths right there.

This was a primary driver but not the only in my going from avg 200k in the bank to 1.2mil in the bank in the month leading up to homestead.

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Robo_Hobo · February 2017

Yeah that's pretty much exactly me. The most I've had was 200k saved in bank from daily thieving, a week or two before homestead. Was saving up to buy a house with gold, but then I ran into a few things that I felt I 'needed' to buy, and then by the time it came out I had like, less than 20k.

I dunno how many times I've respecced skills or morphs or attributes only because theres a couple small things I wanna change, and then I end up doing it again later XD

And don't even get me started on the crown store character customization tokens...at least the prior cases only involved in-game gold. I'm a bit ashamed of how little it's taken for me to start pulling out the credit card to get some crowns to fix that one thing on my character that suddenly started to bug me.

Darth_Apache · February 2017

Cryptical wrote: »

Darth_Apache wrote: »

GrumpyMuffin wrote: »

I've reached an all-time peak of 27k Trouble is, riding speed and bag upgrades aside, I don't spend any money. Only 3k more to save then I can upgrade my bag again and be down to 0g :'(

Part of my problem is I have no interest in trading. If I find a furniture blueprint, I'll give it away to someone who needs it for free. I have no interest in housing and I don't need the money. Same with duplicates of any other motifs, recipes etc.

I tend to favour the lower levelled folks when giving things away

I would love to get into Trading and all but I have NO idea where to start tbh.

Kill animals that give scraps, refine, sell.
Farm ore, refine, sell.
Look in containers.

Use zone text chat to start out.

I was dirt poor for a year like the original poster. Started doing those things, managed to pile up 400k by a week ago. Paying more attention to what sells has boosted me. If my stuff sells today, I will have gone from 400k last week to a million today.

It does require some time invested. I do have a real world job and an outside life, too.

Am i selling in Guild Traders or selling to vendors?

KingKush · February 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

bryanhaas wrote: »

Btw I have wasted too much gold recently down to 2.5

Mil.

I'm down to 14m now....bought the last page of all current ore homestead motifs today. Hard times. I do wonder how some people never have any gold. Seriously farm your gear and stop buying it and stop buying gold mats. Do your writs and get them. Do some dailies and farm motifs. I make over 100k a day just from 2 dailies per toon on 7 toons. It's really not difficult nor time consuming. Too much standing at pride rock doing *** all is what's wrong.

What "dailies" should I be doing exactly?

Sincerely, Someone "Always Broke"

Rohaus · February 2017

If I added up all the gold I have on making gear gold... guarantee I have spent millions...

My typical routine is this... I get bored of sets easily... even when I know a particular setup is strong... I just can't help myself... when One Tamriel came out... good lord, I spent hours upon hours theorycrafting and then spent so much gold on making it happen...

But the way I rationalize it every time... I first ask myself... "Is this virtual currency worth anything?" my answer is always no and that is what allows for me to spend all my gold on something.

Homestead has been quite good to me... I was selling green recipes in the first few days for 10K gold... blue recipes for 25K gold... sadly... that has died off considerably. Just an example of people not being patient... like ME! LOL

I go broke all the time... but I also make gold fast so I don't care... when the market is normal and nothing new or grandiose is out... I can easily make a few hundred thousand gold within a couple weeks.

One thing I love about this game... it's easy to get rich... that hard part is keeping your money... lol

SnubbS · February 2017

I've been selling PvP vendor rings for money. Once you get around 2-3m you can make money pretty quickly by buying bulk mats and selling them at a 2-3k per markup.

JWKe · February 2017

What helps me is always leaving only 1k in my inventory. It psychologically makes me think I'm poor and it helps combat impulse buying when I go window shopping at guild stores.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · February 2017

Do crafting writs. Master writs aside, they give you everything you need to play the game. The Master writs are just gravy to sell. I have tried everything to make money, and nothing is more simple or easy than spending a half hour a day doing writs. I have well over 200 of every gold mat and 8 toons in gold gear. I have also never bought a gold mat. I would also be at well over 10 million gold if I hadnt just spent a crap ton (thats a scientific term) on my manor, and bought pretty much every statue and shiny there is.

It is not a short term solution, but if you do writs on several toons every day until morrowind drops, you will thank me at that time. There are addons that make them insanely fast to do.

Surragard · February 2017

I play mostly PvE quests and I break down most equipment rather than sell it. With that strategy I'm lucky I hit 100K. If you are primarily questing, you will not have gold. There are plenty of threads with strategies for making more gold but it would require changing your play style to concentrate on items like writs and selling to other players (and grinding for those items to sell) that you might not be engaged in right now.

jcaceresw · February 2017

KingKush wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

bryanhaas wrote: »

Btw I have wasted too much gold recently down to 2.5

Mil.

I'm down to 14m now....bought the last page of all current ore homestead motifs today. Hard times. I do wonder how some people never have any gold. Seriously farm your gear and stop buying it and stop buying gold mats. Do your writs and get them. Do some dailies and farm motifs. I make over 100k a day just from 2 dailies per toon on 7 toons. It's really not difficult nor time consuming. Too much standing at pride rock doing *** all is what's wrong.

What "dailies" should I be doing exactly?

Sincerely, Someone "Always Broke"

You can try to do the crafting writs dailies. If you have 12 characters you can be doing about 5k on each toon every day (assuming you do all 6 daily crafting writs). That makes 60k per day. Also, by doing those writs you can also get gold materials, recipes, psijic ambrosia parts (the whole recipe sells for about 90k), the glass motif paper pieces (you still need to glue them by using a 10k potion) and decon lots of armor and weapons (giving you the related materials like the trait and style mats). Those things may give you more gold if you sell them on guild stores.

Gargath · February 2017

Not even a subscriber here... but I keep my stable 300k+ gold in bank with maxed out 240 slots along with 8 toons CP600+, most maxed out inventory to 200 slots. Not even a grinder, just frequent player, trader, adventurer...
This game is a marvel, allows people from the street using the content for earning money from anything. And I'm also buying, just reasonably... Not doing any writs, not crafting golden armors - waste of gold, only weapons are worth a golden state.

KingKush · February 2017

jcaceresw wrote: »

KingKush wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

bryanhaas wrote: »

Btw I have wasted too much gold recently down to 2.5

Mil.

I'm down to 14m now....bought the last page of all current ore homestead motifs today. Hard times. I do wonder how some people never have any gold. Seriously farm your gear and stop buying it and stop buying gold mats. Do your writs and get them. Do some dailies and farm motifs. I make over 100k a day just from 2 dailies per toon on 7 toons. It's really not difficult nor time consuming. Too much standing at pride rock doing *** all is what's wrong.

What "dailies" should I be doing exactly?

Sincerely, Someone "Always Broke"

You can try to do the crafting writs dailies. If you have 12 characters you can be doing about 5k on each toon every day (assuming you do all 6 daily crafting writs). That makes 60k per day. Also, by doing those writs you can also get gold materials, recipes, psijic ambrosia parts (the whole recipe sells for about 90k), the glass motif paper pieces (you still need to glue them by using a 10k potion) and decon lots of armor and weapons (giving you the related materials like the trait and style mats). Those things may give you more gold if you sell them on guild stores.

Thanks for the help. I have completely neglected crafting writs since I started and am now about to be CP 160. ***, I feel like I missed out on so much mula.

bloodthirstyvampire · February 2017

ArchMikem wrote: »

Once upon a time ago I had as much as 160,000 saved in the bank, the most gold I've ever had at one time. So proud of myself. But then I did a bit of spending, like I always end up doing eventually. And more spending. Made new armor for my character, that's gonna need enchants. Moar spending. My character NEEDS a Gold weapon, but I don't have any more mats to improve it. I'm really desperate for that extra damage... MOAR spending. Just yesterday I was getting dangerously close to a full bank inventory. Again. So I suffered through the 42,700 to raise it to 150 slots.

Today I'm now at a meager 30,000. At the same time one of my guilds announced a solitary winner of a raffle I had entered, congratulating them (not me) on taking home over 300,000 gold, just wishing someone would come and buy my crap for once.

All those who somehow always seem to stay ragged instead of rich, sound off!

I have 30 gold no armor no weapons

STEVIL · February 2017

KingKush wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

bryanhaas wrote: »

Btw I have wasted too much gold recently down to 2.5

Mil.

I'm down to 14m now....bought the last page of all current ore homestead motifs today. Hard times. I do wonder how some people never have any gold. Seriously farm your gear and stop buying it and stop buying gold mats. Do your writs and get them. Do some dailies and farm motifs. I make over 100k a day just from 2 dailies per toon on 7 toons. It's really not difficult nor time consuming. Too much standing at pride rock doing *** all is what's wrong.

What "dailies" should I be doing exactly?

Sincerely, Someone "Always Broke"

undaunted daily delves level their skill line, give you a mostly "sell for gold" reward chest, drop valuable sellable motifs (draugr), have guaranted overland set piece at the end boss and are, lets face it, delves. Might require level 10 but not sure about that. never have to have completed a single group content.

Fighter guild dolmen dailies off a similar sell for gold box (and i think they may drop draugr motif but its been a while), have a guaranteed overland set jewel in the chest, and level your fighters line a smidge. Also, dolmen - easy to finish.

Daily writs, tier-1s are great. but any are fine - most efficient if a characters has ALL the crafts at the same tier. never have to spend a single skill point tho - tier-1s are awesome.

The wrothgar, hews bane and gold cost daily delves missions also offer an overland set item from the delves boss, maybe an additional bonus item at the end iirc and if i recall right all offer a small motif drop chance. these are not as valuable as draugr but usually worth a grand or more.

I leave out the mages guild cuz those force you to group content. it may be group content you can solo fairly easily but not everyone is that interested in the group stuff.

obviously delves and some dungeons have skyshards the first time thru.

KEY point - the fifhters, undaunted and mages dailies will send you all over tamriel. if you have not unlocked the zones you can still go there thru the navigators in major cities docks. but better yet...

if you are in a guild with plenty of folks, just open guild tab, look at the roster, find a player in a zone, use the travel to... drop to a wayshrine in that zone - unlocking it.

For all my "newer" characters, i would take a few mins before logging off to open the guildie window and do a few free ports to places i had never been to or even fully explored. unlocked all the zones and multiple wayshrines all over thew world.

heck thats what i do when i get a daily - just open guileies and warp to the zone free. then sort it out from there - as in zone warps from wayshrine to wayshrine is quick - mostly.

one key with any of these gold harvest operations if "efficiency"
if you spend 45m to run six writs on one character you are forfeiting a lot of opportunity. You should be looking at ways to get that down to 5-10m tops. if you go thru more than one door doing writs - you are doing it wr... less efficiently than you could be. if your drop-off isn't within a single sprint of your crafting/pickup, you are doing it wr... less efficiently than you could be.

Figure out what makes money that you can enjoy - then figure out how to do it quicker than you do at first and your coffers will bulge.

Violynne · February 2017

ArchMikem wrote: »

All those who somehow always seem to stay ragged instead of rich, sound off!

Patience. I'm not talking grinding gold patience. I'm talking about leveling patience. So many people rush to climb the hill, they forget to stop and take a breath.

I created a character a bit ago and spend over 120k upgrading their bag, only to delete the character about a week later. Why? Because I was in a rush to level my equipment skills.

That was entirely stupid on my part. It's so tempting to "do it all", but there's simply no rush to do so. Everything in due time.

Now, I deposit in 1000g increments. Made 3634 gold since my last visit to the bank? Deposit of 3000, please!

In less than two weeks, I went from 24k to 200k and tonight, I'm dropping in another 5k.

It's pretty impressive when you actually see how much quests pay you and what you loot from corpses.

Then again, I'm getting to the point of being so frugal, I'm now starting to wear and use items from dead people.

icontrive · February 2017

I make just enough gold to complete my build then it's off to cyrodill till the next patch

KingKush · February 2017

STEVIL wrote: »

KingKush wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

bryanhaas wrote: »

Btw I have wasted too much gold recently down to 2.5

Mil.

I'm down to 14m now....bought the last page of all current ore homestead motifs today. Hard times. I do wonder how some people never have any gold. Seriously farm your gear and stop buying it and stop buying gold mats. Do your writs and get them. Do some dailies and farm motifs. I make over 100k a day just from 2 dailies per toon on 7 toons. It's really not difficult nor time consuming. Too much standing at pride rock doing *** all is what's wrong.

What "dailies" should I be doing exactly?

Sincerely, Someone "Always Broke"

undaunted daily delves level their skill line, give you a mostly "sell for gold" reward chest, drop valuable sellable motifs (draugr), have guaranted overland set piece at the end boss and are, lets face it, delves. Might require level 10 but not sure about that. never have to have completed a single group content.

Fighter guild dolmen dailies off a similar sell for gold box (and i think they may drop draugr motif but its been a while), have a guaranteed overland set jewel in the chest, and level your fighters line a smidge. Also, dolmen - easy to finish.

Daily writs, tier-1s are great. but any are fine - most efficient if a characters has ALL the crafts at the same tier. never have to spend a single skill point tho - tier-1s are awesome.

The wrothgar, hews bane and gold cost daily delves missions also offer an overland set item from the delves boss, maybe an additional bonus item at the end iirc and if i recall right all offer a small motif drop chance. these are not as valuable as draugr but usually worth a grand or more.

I leave out the mages guild cuz those force you to group content. it may be group content you can solo fairly easily but not everyone is that interested in the group stuff.

obviously delves and some dungeons have skyshards the first time thru.

KEY point - the fifhters, undaunted and mages dailies will send you all over tamriel. if you have not unlocked the zones you can still go there thru the navigators in major cities docks. but better yet...

if you are in a guild with plenty of folks, just open guild tab, look at the roster, find a player in a zone, use the travel to... drop to a wayshrine in that zone - unlocking it.

For all my "newer" characters, i would take a few mins before logging off to open the guildie window and do a few free ports to places i had never been to or even fully explored. unlocked all the zones and multiple wayshrines all over thew world.

heck thats what i do when i get a daily - just open guileies and warp to the zone free. then sort it out from there - as in zone warps from wayshrine to wayshrine is quick - mostly.

one key with any of these gold harvest operations if "efficiency"
if you spend 45m to run six writs on one character you are forfeiting a lot of opportunity. You should be looking at ways to get that down to 5-10m tops. if you go thru more than one door doing writs - you are doing it wr... less efficiently than you could be. if your drop-off isn't within a single sprint of your crafting/pickup, you are doing it wr... less efficiently than you could be.

Figure out what makes money that you can enjoy - then figure out how to do it quicker than you do at first and your coffers will bulge.

Appreciate the information my man. Will be saving this post and referencing it for future use. Looks like there's quite a few different ways to earn some of that gold that's been dodging me. Sounds like I need to get in the habit of doing dailies, which I literally NEVER do. Thanks again!

STEVIL · February 2017

KingKush wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

KingKush wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

bryanhaas wrote: »

Btw I have wasted too much gold recently down to 2.5

Mil.

I'm down to 14m now....bought the last page of all current ore homestead motifs today. Hard times. I do wonder how some people never have any gold. Seriously farm your gear and stop buying it and stop buying gold mats. Do your writs and get them. Do some dailies and farm motifs. I make over 100k a day just from 2 dailies per toon on 7 toons. It's really not difficult nor time consuming. Too much standing at pride rock doing *** all is what's wrong.

What "dailies" should I be doing exactly?

Sincerely, Someone "Always Broke"

undaunted daily delves level their skill line, give you a mostly "sell for gold" reward chest, drop valuable sellable motifs (draugr), have guaranted overland set piece at the end boss and are, lets face it, delves. Might require level 10 but not sure about that. never have to have completed a single group content.

Fighter guild dolmen dailies off a similar sell for gold box (and i think they may drop draugr motif but its been a while), have a guaranteed overland set jewel in the chest, and level your fighters line a smidge. Also, dolmen - easy to finish.

Daily writs, tier-1s are great. but any are fine - most efficient if a characters has ALL the crafts at the same tier. never have to spend a single skill point tho - tier-1s are awesome.

The wrothgar, hews bane and gold cost daily delves missions also offer an overland set item from the delves boss, maybe an additional bonus item at the end iirc and if i recall right all offer a small motif drop chance. these are not as valuable as draugr but usually worth a grand or more.

I leave out the mages guild cuz those force you to group content. it may be group content you can solo fairly easily but not everyone is that interested in the group stuff.

obviously delves and some dungeons have skyshards the first time thru.

KEY point - the fifhters, undaunted and mages dailies will send you all over tamriel. if you have not unlocked the zones you can still go there thru the navigators in major cities docks. but better yet...

if you are in a guild with plenty of folks, just open guild tab, look at the roster, find a player in a zone, use the travel to... drop to a wayshrine in that zone - unlocking it.

For all my "newer" characters, i would take a few mins before logging off to open the guildie window and do a few free ports to places i had never been to or even fully explored. unlocked all the zones and multiple wayshrines all over thew world.

heck thats what i do when i get a daily - just open guileies and warp to the zone free. then sort it out from there - as in zone warps from wayshrine to wayshrine is quick - mostly.

one key with any of these gold harvest operations if "efficiency"
if you spend 45m to run six writs on one character you are forfeiting a lot of opportunity. You should be looking at ways to get that down to 5-10m tops. if you go thru more than one door doing writs - you are doing it wr... less efficiently than you could be. if your drop-off isn't within a single sprint of your crafting/pickup, you are doing it wr... less efficiently than you could be.

Figure out what makes money that you can enjoy - then figure out how to do it quicker than you do at first and your coffers will bulge.

Appreciate the information my man. Will be saving this post and referencing it for future use. Looks like there's quite a few different ways to earn some of that gold that's been dodging me. Sounds like I need to get in the habit of doing dailies, which I literally NEVER do. Thanks again!

De nada - always glad to help.

enjoy.

BRogueNZ · February 2017

I've all I need but would love to catch a break, rarely have over 100k. something yellow and in high demand dropping for once or a lottery win would be nice. I tend to craft and improve another set every so often so don't sell my money makers like I could.