Remove all drawbacks and increase spell damage by 30,000,000. Still better than current balance logic.

Vampires need fangs.

Fangs , remove the bleaching effect on fur , tatoos and body paint . Decrease health regen in daylight , increase health regen at night . Make a kill camera for feeding like Blade of woe has except biting on the neck instead . Buff baleful mist damage or add a disoriented debuff to enemies effected . Bat swarm travel option instead of wayshrine at night . Vampire lord ultimate . Allow mist form to pass through bars and gates . Stage 4 vampirism attracts guards to attack for public safety and no use of vendors .

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Fangs , remove the bleaching effect on fur , tatoos and body paint . Decrease health regen in daylight , increase health regen at night . Make a kill camera for feeding like Blade of woe has except biting on the neck instead . Buff baleful mist damage or add a disoriented debuff to enemies effected . Bat swarm travel option instead of wayshrine at night . Vampire lord ultimate . Allow mist form to pass through bars and gates . Stage 4 vampirism attracts guards to attack for public safety and no use of vendors .

Different Bloodline, Different Powers, the reason we cant transform into a vampire lord is because Lamae Bal isn't a vampire lord as that is a VOLKIHAR Vampire Power.

I think vampires should have a bigger "package" than normal immortals, so getting tea-bagged by a vampire means something.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

I think vampires should have a bigger "package" than normal immortals, so getting tea-bagged by a vampire means something.

Normal "Immortals"???

Stages need to change. Right now this is how it works:

Four stages, each gives more and more passives. But take away health regen and give vulnerability to fire.
Each stage is several hours. Using an ability from the Vampire tree reduces that time by 30min.
Feeding can be down from crouching or invis, feeding heals the Vampire and stuns the target.
Feeding reduces stage.

Sounds pretty straight forward. Until you try to do non-solo content.

Feeding without an invis potion or skill makes feeding in dungeons nearly impossible. You're unable to reduce stages without a human/mer target as well.

Advancing stages in case you do pull off a feeding to stun/knock down is likewise awkward, requiring a Vampire ability slotted and spammed.

So this means you're either hovering around stage one, or just not feeding and remaining in stage four. That's a problem. That's not a vampire by playstyle nor by lore.

I've only played a bit of Skyrim, and I've played alot of Oblivion so my knowledge of the lore isn't entirely complete, but I know Vampires need to feed to sustain themselves. And when they don't feed, they get powers.

They've taken Oblivion vampirism as I know it and applied it to ESO without the sunlight damage. And that is making for clunky mechanics.

So we need new mechanics. But we want to stay within the lore. The lore of Noxiphilic Sanguivoria is an undead creature that feeds on the living and grows stronger at night, unaffected by day. Most commonly seen in the 2nd Era. Paraphrased from the Elder Scrolls Wiki

Feeding needs to be part of game play.
Stages need to last minutes or seconds. This is to ensure you can get use out of them in single boss fights rather than being stuck in a stage once the fight starts.

Here's what I suggest:

Stages kinda work how they do now.
Increased regens, decreased health regen.
Vulnerability to fire.
Stages last 45-90s*
Using a vampire ability increases stage (with an internal cooldown, so you can't go straight to stage 4 immediately).

The major difference happens when feeding. And when and what you can feed from.

When you feed you get a buff that lasts a certain time depending on which stage you were in. If you're in stage 1 its very short (4-7s)*. If in Stage 4 it lasts a bit longer. The buff increases power (mag/stam) regen a bit more. As well as increased damage of Vampire skills and allows the (Bat Swarm) ultimate to last longer as well.

You immediately go to stage 1 once the buff fades. You cannot advance vampirism while the feeding buff is active.

Additionally you can feed by simply meeting the following conditions:
1. Behind Target (no stun or off-balance)
2. Invis or Crouching (works like it does now, stuns and puts them off balance)
3. Target is stunned or off balance (knocks them down).

In the case of the first one, the target is still able to attack while you are feeding.

Also you can feed on anything with a pulse, including bosses. If bosses are normally immune to CC effects, then they remain immune to CC effects from feeding. Vampire still gets to eat and get their feeding buff. They just weave it into rotations.

The benefit of this system is the stages are used as a bit of a resource and you roll through them in combat instead of this clunky solo playstyle method we have now.

Pushing stage 4 gives some good benefits but obviously comes with the cost of health regen and fire vulnerability. Also one variant is we may change stage one to last an hour but immediately goes to stage 2 if using an ability. The downside is the feeding buff only resets stage one and provides no buff.

This would allow those who don't want the downsides and don't wish to look ugly can remain in stage 1. This is throwing a bone to RPers. Another consideration is to make the various stages available as skins so you can always look the way you wish.

But there you go. It makes the system smoother. Allows you to feed and use stage four in a non-mutually exclusive manner. And allows group oriented players a means to experience all stages. Solo players benefit too in the same manner, useful since their fights are normally shorter.

* Any times listed are for example, they can be adjusted as needed for balance.

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

I think vampires should have a bigger "package" than normal immortals, so getting tea-bagged by a vampire means something.

Normal "Immortals"???

Who stays dead in this game? Not even the people you blade of woe 20 times a day, they keep coming back with the same name, therefore normal immortals.

Permanent sundamage? Really? This isn't a Single Player Game and you can't skip daytime by pressing a Button. This would exclude a large Part of the playerbase from just playing a game they payed and sub for at many hours a day. Most stupid idea I've seen this week. Directly followed by making guards attack stage 4 Players. Remember, it's a MMO.

@ShadowHvo how goes 2, 3 and 6 together in your list? Don't they contradict themselves a bit?