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bloodthirstyvampire

Ok this sounds ridiculous but what would a vampire personality be like never happen but if it did what would it do

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »

Branbran wrote: »

I've always thought the feeding mechanic for vampires is backwards. A vampire should be strongest when fully fed and as close to normal looking as possible. They then get weaker and look more haggard, delirious or frenzied when they are starving.

Then perhaps reduce the time for each stage so vampires have to keep feeding to stay strong to balance it out.

Less fed=more powerful is nothing new with TES vamps. You just thinking about it wrong.

The vamps power comes from the beast within. The hunger. The less they feed, the stronger it gets. The more it takes over.

TES vamps don't actually "need" blood to survive, but if they don't... They eventually lose their minds to the hunger.

Which is a completely stupid depiction and conflicts with the vampire lord feeding in dawnguard (Did you know it got stronger by feeding) also in Morrowind and Daggerfall we had every reason to believe vampires functioned more like typical vampires, Also Dialogue from vampires ingame also seems to suggest feeding makes you stronger, as far as Im concerned this whole starving thing is just a watered down game mechanic to cater to lazy noobs who can't handle the heat.

Infact if I didn't take the undeath passive ability, the dark stalker passive ability or the supernatural recovery passive ability, wouldn't I technically be stronger in stage 1 then in stage 4 therefor stronger by feeding?

25% higher resistance to fire + Normal Health Regen > 21% cheaper cost to 3 weak abilities

bloodthirstyvampire

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »

Branbran wrote: »

I've always thought the feeding mechanic for vampires is backwards. A vampire should be strongest when fully fed and as close to normal looking as possible. They then get weaker and look more haggard, delirious or frenzied when they are starving.

Then perhaps reduce the time for each stage so vampires have to keep feeding to stay strong to balance it out.

Less fed=more powerful is nothing new with TES vamps. You just thinking about it wrong.

The vamps power comes from the beast within. The hunger. The less they feed, the stronger it gets. The more it takes over.

TES vamps don't actually "need" blood to survive, but if they don't... They eventually lose their minds to the hunger.

Which is a completely stupid depiction and conflicts with the vampire lord feeding in dawnguard (Did you know it got stronger by feeding) also in Morrowind and Daggerfall we had every reason to believe vampires functioned more like typical vampires, Also Dialogue from vampires ingame also seems to suggest feeding makes you stronger, as far as Im' concerned this whole starving thing is just a game mechanic to cater to lazy noobs who can't handle the heat.

Ya if feeding made me stronger thier would be no npcs in this game that would be safe from me heck i feed off guards for lols

PS4_ZeColmeia

Couple of thoughts:

Vamps don't need as many skills as ww because we can access all of our skills while being vamps.

The thing that would be awesome is if vamps powers costed health by reimagining savage feeding. As it stands, npcs are only affected by this and you kill so fast it had no valuable.

Imagine 1/2 health regen penalty lowered and health factors into damage (average(damage stat, health) and at 2/2 health regen penalty removed, health is your damage stat and your resource pool.

To compensate, all vamp skills cast health proc (similar to change on elemental drain on destructive staff).

This would be a high risk / reward play style. The 1/2 would make balancing health more important. 0/2 is no change.

Also, get rid of the no magic regen on most. We already have health regen penalty + no heals in mist it's over kill.

Rohamad_Ali

ViciousVamps1 wrote: »

HeroOfNone wrote: »

Fangs on vampires, all races. I don't care if they grow longer at stage 4 or not, just add them in.

Sure but nobody would see

The molders for Skyrim can make them visible and look good then real game Devs should have little issue . There are idle animations for Skyrim that show them on humans very well . Khajiit have them present all the time .

bloodthirstyvampire

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

This is what ZOS needs to do...

1. Make Accelerating Drain and Baleful mist both Stamina Morphs

The Reasoning for this is because they already have a +10% stamina regeneration buff so why no stamina related abilities? many of their passives also seem to focus on stamina draining activates as well such as sneaking AKA dark stalker .

2. They need to have a Frost resistance passive that scales with the Fire weakness, so 0% resistance at stage 1 and 25% resistance at stage 4.

The reasoning for this is simply down to consistency, the only reason an undead is weak to fire in the first place is because they are cold and dry, drinking blood makes them less dry but if something is cold and dry it lacks bodily water and therefor should also be resistant to frost.

3. Give Vampires a constant resistant to both Poison and Disease effects, the reason a vampire can't contract Sanius Lupius or Rockjoint in the first place is because they are supposed to be immune to disease, they are immune to poison because they aren't alive.

The Reasoning for this should be obvious, as it stands my vampire does not feel like an "Undead"

This is from @TX12001rwb17_ESO his idea was cool but maybe a bit to op

bloodthirstyvampire

I like the ideas here

bloodthirstyvampire

Do any of you think devs rushed vampires

t3hdubzy

Something other then dark stalker. If i werent so impatient i would not be one.

Lynx7386

How many vampire threads per day do you really have to make?

bloodthirstyvampire

Lynx7386 wrote: »

How many vampire threads per day do you really have to make?

1 to TEN THOUSAND!!!

Duiwel

All we need are better eyes, the eyes on Dunmer are a joke especially if you chose the crimson eyes.

The crimson eyes are what ALL vampire elf eyes should look like or aspire to look like.

Not some blood shot skooma addicted Breton's blue eyes.

Enslaved

We need bats as pets. Simple as that.

bloodthirstyvampire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPdkSB4NtD0

Doctordarkspawn

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »

Branbran wrote: »

I've always thought the feeding mechanic for vampires is backwards. A vampire should be strongest when fully fed and as close to normal looking as possible. They then get weaker and look more haggard, delirious or frenzied when they are starving.

Then perhaps reduce the time for each stage so vampires have to keep feeding to stay strong to balance it out.

Less fed=more powerful is nothing new with TES vamps. You just thinking about it wrong.

The vamps power comes from the beast within. The hunger. The less they feed, the stronger it gets. The more it takes over.

TES vamps don't actually "need" blood to survive, but if they don't... They eventually lose their minds to the hunger.

Which is a completely stupid depiction and conflicts with the vampire lord feeding in dawnguard (Did you know it got stronger by feeding) also in Morrowind and Daggerfall we had every reason to believe vampires functioned more like typical vampires, Also Dialogue from vampires ingame also seems to suggest feeding makes you stronger, as far as Im concerned this whole starving thing is just a watered down game mechanic to cater to lazy noobs who can't handle the heat.

Infact if I didn't take the undeath passive ability, the dark stalker passive ability or the supernatural recovery passive ability, wouldn't I technically be stronger in stage 1 then in stage 4 therefor stronger by feeding?

25% higher resistance to fire + Normal Health Regen > 21% cheaper cost to 3 weak abilities

...IT'S ALL THE FAULT OF THE FILTHY CASUALS!

*Provies mandatory tin foil hat*

WalksonGraves

I was so sad they didn't have the argonian/khajit sabertooth fangs from skyrim. I know there are legit lore reasons it just looked so damn cool.

bloodthirstyvampire

Awesome stuff here guys

Jacozilla

Let vampires purchase racial-normal skins on crown store. Win for everyone.

ZOS - more crown sales

player that cares - a means to get rid of ugly vamp skin peeling off look

player that doesn't care - unaffected and doesn't require lifting a finger to stay the status quo

player that doesn't care personally but wants to deny player that cares ----> you would be only group losing out under this proposal, and I'm ok with that.

Muttsmutt

i want to have my original skin color back as an argonian; when i equip a body tattoo or something

Bobby_V_Rockit

Make devouring swarm comparable to reviving barrier. Otherwise why?

candesco

Would be nice if there were some vampire clans, like the Aundae, Quarra and Berne in TES III: Morrowind.
My char in Morrowind was an Aundae vampire for a while.

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Majeure

I like vampires as they are right now. Maybe they could replace that initiation quest.

Rickter

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Fangs , remove the bleaching effect on fur , tatoos and body paint . Decrease health regen in daylight , increase health regen at night . Make a kill camera for feeding like Blade of woe has except biting on the neck instead . Buff baleful mist damage or add a disoriented debuff to enemies effected . Bat swarm travel option instead of wayshrine at night . Vampire lord ultimate . Allow mist form to pass through bars and gates . Stage 4 vampirism attracts guards to attack for public safety and no use of vendors .

This. all the way. how do we get this feedback to zos?

I would also like to add an "eye shine" effect at night like Skyrim vampires.

Also: Vampire Lord is a Polymorph most likely coming out this halloween. I dont want a vampire lord ultimate - its not an ultimate, only ancient powerful vampires look like that. this would make vamps too much like werewolf.

and while we're on that topic - warden gets an infinite bear, werewolves should be able to stay in werewolf form at all times. increase poison weakness or something to quasi compensate.

The reason i bring that up is because if all these perks were given to vamps, others would feel left out.

bloodthirstyvampire

Jacozilla wrote: »

Let vampires purchase racial-normal skins on crown store. Win for everyone.

ZOS - more crown sales

player that cares - a means to get rid of ugly vamp skin peeling off look

player that doesn't care - unaffected and doesn't require lifting a finger to stay the status quo

player that doesn't care personally but wants to deny player that cares ----> you would be only group losing out under this proposal, and I'm ok with that.

Yes a skin would be good as my vampire female imperial looks awesome at all stages

bloodthirstyvampire

Uh by the way if you see viciousvamp1 in quotes thats my old forum name

bloodthirstyvampire

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Jacozilla wrote: »

Let vampires purchase racial-normal skins on crown store. Win for everyone.

ZOS - more crown sales

player that cares - a means to get rid of ugly vamp skin peeling off look

player that doesn't care - unaffected and doesn't require lifting a finger to stay the status quo

player that doesn't care personally but wants to deny player that cares ----> you would be only group losing out under this proposal, and I'm ok with that.

Yes a skin would be good as my vampire female imperial looks awesome at all stages

I would just keeps the eyes tho

KeiruNicrom

Vampires need to drop vampirism and become WWs

bloodthirstyvampire

KeiruNicrom wrote: »

Vampires need to drop vampirism and become WWs

But werewolf is boring and ugly, also they die quickly

Runschei

Let me hide my skin.