The elitism has gotten way to out of hand in this game lately, sometimes I want to quit.

darkllord · February 2017

Thoosa wrote: »

I'm 473 and don't see much of it, except the occasional instant kick for veteran white gold tower (but not for ICP for some reason). I can understand wgt partly because winning the inhibitor fight can be such low odds with group finder people

Off topic: Actually I can never understand what is so difficult about imhibitor, tactics is so obvious, that I don ´t really get it, what could be problem there. Even if someone doesn´t know tactics, it can be explained in no time.

covenant_merchant · February 2017

CosmicSoul wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

CosmicSoul wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Most "elitists" you decry hardly spend any time in lowbie dungeons though. So by all means this thread should not exist unless you had that one exceptional encounter that reinforces the general rule where a high CP player told you to get good, and got so butthurt you've decided to QQ about it.

What kind of arrogant comment is this? Tons of players want vipers set from fungal grotto 1 and 2 on vet lol.

Players, not elitists. Elitists got their weapons ages ago when they were still BoE, because elitists are ahead of the curve. And bought their golden jewelry from the Undaunted vendor.

Players who farm Viper now, especially when it's been nerfed, are probably just other entitled no-name randoms who think they can still equip sets and be gods on the battlefield. And once again, players farming gear other than monster sets do so in normal mode, which you can easily solo if you're a true elitist refusing to associate yourself with peasants like yourself.

Damn...

I have no patience for posters whose threads reek of entitlement and bs. It's a casual game, and 99% of the players won't grieve you because of your CP and lack of skill if you acknowledge it and do your best. However this incessant whining on forums about being slighted is getting annoying, especially when these threads have no evidence, anecdotes, or any other relevant info to contribute to the "rise of elitists" theory.

If you are going to whine, please do so with class to brighten our early morning hours.

Here, I took the liberty of researching How to Write a Good Rant in 15 steps with pictures for you. Please take notes and edit your post accordingly.

Excuse me? How hypocritical considering your literally doing the same thing, and this is not an entitlement this is about elitists attitude abusing vote kick and more, wasting your time. You are seeing allot of complaints on it because it happens, lol evidence? Seriously you want me to provide a video for you when elitism has existed since the dawn of online gaming? You do not need evidence your not make any sense at all considering how many report this kind of thing on a daily basis why would anyone lie about it? Many people are experiencing the same thing period.

Doing what exact same thing? As for all your erroneous assumptions, I never vote to kicked a player from a random dungeon. (Dailies aren't included. When players lie about their DPS or Healing abilities in vCOA2, they deserve to get rekt).

Either I farm CoH I in normal mode for Ebon Weapons (which beats farming nMOL for Alkosh one), in which case I can carry all the group by myself regardless of their level, and actually encourage them to read the quest and enjoy the sights while I clean out the trash waves.

Or else I farm Hist motifs with organised good groups, in which case I'm hardly voting to kick my OP friends.

Most Elitist threads that go 'round the forum are equally hilarious bs, like this one . Or else, that famous thread, from which I took the liberty to post a screenshot.

As you can see, the OP here is a tank looking to run dailies with a group of 3DD + Healer "fast run", and gets just as butthurt as you when the "elitists" in question refuses his unwanted advances. So excuse me for failing to take you seriously unless you offer concrete and substantial proof that you've indeed been slighted and it's not just a childish tantrum to get some attention.

Gedalya · February 2017

CosmicSoul wrote: »

Really, it is not hard to get champion levels, just because one of them has higher does not make them a better player. I think maybe the cp levels are so easy to get the little kids all of a sudden think they are on top of the world and treat others like they are on the bottom.

Well before this discussion on CP there was Elitism; it was who is max VR level. It is what it is. One option is to be more proactive and start your own groups and run with friendly guilds; there are plenty of people in this game that just want to enjoy themselves and are not seeking to be King of the Hill so to speak for every little thing.

DurzoBlint13 · February 2017

dreddurius wrote: »

I love the smell of popcorn in the morning

....smells like Victory! Lol I love that line!

TheBonesXXX · February 2017

You ran into a few folks who have no social skills and have a lack of maturity and discipline. The game is more than likely all they really have to attach themselves to.

The best players in the game can take new players and teach them how to clear any type of content in the game, because their mastery is that high.

But really, who gives a *** if you get booted from a dungeon, find a static group to do content with.

covenant_merchant · February 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

CosmicSoul wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Most "elitists" you decry hardly spend any time in lowbie dungeons though. So by all means this thread should not exist unless you had that one exceptional encounter that reinforces the general rule where a high CP player told you to get good, and got so butthurt you've decided to QQ about it.

What kind of arrogant comment is this? Tons of players want vipers set from fungal grotto 1 and 2 on vet lol.

Players, not elitists. Elitists got their weapons ages ago when they were still BoE, because elitists are ahead of the curve. And bought their golden jewelry from the Undaunted vendor.

Players who farm Viper now, especially when it's been nerfed, are probably just other entitled no-name randoms who think they can still equip sets and be gods on the battlefield. And once again, players farming gear other than monster sets do so in normal mode, which you can easily solo if you're a true elitist refusing to associate yourself with peasants like yourself.

covenant_merchant wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

CosmicSoul wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Most "elitists" you decry hardly spend any time in lowbie dungeons though. So by all means this thread should not exist unless you had that one exceptional encounter that reinforces the general rule where a high CP player told you to get good, and got so butthurt you've decided to QQ about it.

What kind of arrogant comment is this? Tons of players want vipers set from fungal grotto 1 and 2 on vet lol.

Players, not elitists. Elitists got their weapons ages ago when they were still BoE, because elitists are ahead of the curve. And bought their golden jewelry from the Undaunted vendor.

Players who farm Viper now, especially when it's been nerfed, are probably just other entitled no-name randoms who think they can still equip sets and be gods on the battlefield. And once again, players farming gear other than monster sets do so in normal mode, which you can easily solo if you're a true elitist refusing to associate yourself with peasants like yourself.

Damn...

I have no patience for posters whose threads reek of entitlement and bs. It's a casual game, and 99% of the players won't grieve you because of your CP and lack of skill if you acknowledge it and do your best. However this incessant whining on forums about being slighted is getting annoying, especially when these threads have no evidence, anecdotes, or any other relevant info to contribute to the "rise of elitists" theory.

If you are going to whine, please do so with class to brighten our early morning hours.

Here, I took the liberty of researching How to Write a Good Rant in 15 steps with pictures for you. Please take notes and edit your post accordingly.

Dude... Just... No. There's no reason needed to call someone a peasant, and try to belittle a person over a video game. No. That's not right, bruh. And while I too have issues with a few 'casual-oriented things' (I just recently actually made a thread about my dislike for bow builds), I don't go about intentionally trying to make others feel beneath me. Nor do I go about calling others peasants. I have all earnable skins (outside of the IC skin dropped from Molag Bal), have Flawless Conqueror and all other titles (save for Dro-m'Athra Destroyer), BIS gear for days, and so on. But still. That does NOT entitle me to think I'm so supreme to others and can treat them as if they're lesser beings. Chill on that, b. It's uncalled for. And honestly? It doesn't belong here on the forums.

Was actually talking from an elitist point of view, in which case "peasant" is completely appropriate. Personally, I have no opinion about the OP beyond the fact that he's a whiner fishing for approval and refusing to provide details or any reason as to why his dislike of elitists is so prominent.

Look at that image again, remember the thread, and tell me you don't see a pattern.

Violynne · February 2017

CosmicSoul wrote: »

I think maybe the cp levels are so easy to get the little kids all of a sudden think they are on top of the world and treat others like they are on the bottom.

Welcome to Earth. Population: 7billion+ and growing.

Warning: this attitude isn't related to gaming. Just look at the current president of the United States.

Advice: IGNORE THEM!

If they're not affecting your game in any way, then perhaps the problem aren't the elitists.

WalkingLegacy · February 2017

ESO

It's not about skill, it's about how much time you spend in game.

I've always hated the CP system. This thread showcases a few of the negatives.

Soraka · February 2017

Some of these instances of getting insta-booted could be related to the group finder being buggy...I got insta-booted from a group once because I was the 5th person added to the group

dsalter · February 2017

CosmicSoul wrote: »

Jaybe_Mawfaka wrote: »

then get your cps and stop qqing on forums about that, geeez. You really don't have to make a thread about everything you disagree with

I do not so what are you talking about? Lol my cps get through the lowbie dungeons with no issues. If anything people need to stop freaken out over cp levels for lowbie dungeons. I made this topic about how insane the elitism has become lately, not due only to my personal experiences.

the thing is, CP is just to damn strong, if you have 300 and i have 600, i can output a big difference over you. on an equal footing of course

xblackroxe · February 2017

covenant_merchant wrote: »

CosmicSoul wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Most "elitists" you decry hardly spend any time in lowbie dungeons though. So by all means this thread should not exist unless you had that one exceptional encounter that reinforces the general rule where a high CP player told you to get good, and got so butthurt you've decided to QQ about it.

What kind of arrogant comment is this? Tons of players want vipers set from fungal grotto 1 and 2 on vet lol.

Players, not elitists. Elitists got their weapons ages ago when they were still BoE, because elitists are ahead of the curve. And bought their golden jewelry from the Undaunted vendor.

Players who farm Viper now, especially when it's been nerfed, are probably just other entitled no-name randoms who think they can still equip sets and be gods on the battlefield. And once again, players farming gear other than monster sets do so in normal mode, which you can easily solo if you're a true elitist refusing to associate yourself with peasants like yourself.

You forgot to drop the mic.

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pjwb16_ESO · February 2017

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Seems like "elitist" gets thrown around as easily as the word "fascist" nowadays.

You *** facistic elitist trump voter! My gender equalized anti fat shaming womens right campaign will burn your mercedes benz and your poor neighbors bike cause you're mansplaining and denying us our personal opinions! Your property is gonna suffer for that! Never again assume this is a libertarian discussion! You misogynistic pig

JahneeO · February 2017

I'd say don't let it bother you OP.

There are plenty of cool people to hang out with in game that you don't have to worry about the ones who may have a chip on their shoulder. After all, if you meet someone like this in RL, would you care to be their friend or just move on?

Jeremy · February 2017

CosmicSoul wrote: »

Really, it is not hard to get champion levels, just because one of them has higher does not make them a better player. I think maybe the cp levels are so easy to get the little kids all of a sudden think they are on top of the world and treat others like they are on the bottom.

It does seem that way (that they are little kids) with the way many of these CP Elitist act. Unfortunately many of them are probably adults. Which is frightening.

In any case, I agree with your post. The elitism on this game is out of control and has been for some time. That is one reason I've been advocating that the developers change CP values to make them anonymous from other players. I believe this would help a lot. It's something they should do.

KochDerDamonen · February 2017

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

CosmicSoul wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Most "elitists" you decry hardly spend any time in lowbie dungeons though. So by all means this thread should not exist unless you had that one exceptional encounter that reinforces the general rule where a high CP player told you to get good, and got so butthurt you've decided to QQ about it.

What kind of arrogant comment is this? Tons of players want vipers set from fungal grotto 1 and 2 on vet lol.

Players, not elitists. Elitists got their weapons ages ago when they were still BoE, because elitists are ahead of the curve. And bought their golden jewelry from the Undaunted vendor.

Players who farm Viper now, especially when it's been nerfed, are probably just other entitled no-name randoms who think they can still equip sets and be gods on the battlefield. And once again, players farming gear other than monster sets do so in normal mode, which you can easily solo if you're a true elitist refusing to associate yourself with peasants like yourself.

covenant_merchant wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

CosmicSoul wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Most "elitists" you decry hardly spend any time in lowbie dungeons though. So by all means this thread should not exist unless you had that one exceptional encounter that reinforces the general rule where a high CP player told you to get good, and got so butthurt you've decided to QQ about it.

What kind of arrogant comment is this? Tons of players want vipers set from fungal grotto 1 and 2 on vet lol.

Players, not elitists. Elitists got their weapons ages ago when they were still BoE, because elitists are ahead of the curve. And bought their golden jewelry from the Undaunted vendor.

Players who farm Viper now, especially when it's been nerfed, are probably just other entitled no-name randoms who think they can still equip sets and be gods on the battlefield. And once again, players farming gear other than monster sets do so in normal mode, which you can easily solo if you're a true elitist refusing to associate yourself with peasants like yourself.

Damn...

I have no patience for posters whose threads reek of entitlement and bs. It's a casual game, and 99% of the players won't grieve you because of your CP and lack of skill if you acknowledge it and do your best. However this incessant whining on forums about being slighted is getting annoying, especially when these threads have no evidence, anecdotes, or any other relevant info to contribute to the "rise of elitists" theory.

If you are going to whine, please do so with class to brighten our early morning hours.

Here, I took the liberty of researching How to Write a Good Rant in 15 steps with pictures for you. Please take notes and edit your post accordingly.

Dude... Just... No. There's no reason needed to call someone a peasant, and try to belittle a person over a video game. No. That's not right, bruh. And while I too have issues with a few 'casual-oriented things' (I just recently actually made a thread about my dislike for bow builds), I don't go about intentionally trying to make others feel beneath me. Nor do I go about calling others peasants. I have all earnable skins (outside of the IC skin dropped from Molag Bal), have Flawless Conqueror and all other titles (save for Dro-m'Athra Destroyer), BIS gear for days, and so on. But still. That does NOT entitle me to think I'm so supreme to others and can treat them as if they're lesser beings. Chill on that, b. It's uncalled for. And honestly? It doesn't belong here on the forums.

Was actually talking from an elitist point of view, in which case "peasant" is completely appropriate. Personally, I have no opinion about the OP beyond the fact that he's a whiner fishing for approval and refusing to provide details or any reason as to why his dislike of elitists is so prominent.

Look at that image again, remember the thread, and tell me you don't see a pattern.

"rude player" lol

Violynne wrote: »

CosmicSoul wrote: »

I think maybe the cp levels are so easy to get the little kids all of a sudden think they are on top of the world and treat others like they are on the bottom.

Welcome to Earth. Population: 7billion+ and growing.

Warning: this attitude isn't related to gaming. Just look at the current president of the United States.

Advice: IGNORE THEM!

If they're not affecting your game in any way, then perhaps the problem aren't the elitists.

*foams violently at the mouth, at a chance to spew a good old fashioned political virtue signal*

/////

TFW a troll post stays on the front page for longer than a day :^)

Jeremy · February 2017

JahneeO wrote: »

I'd say don't let it bother you OP.

There are plenty of cool people to hang out with in game that you don't have to worry about the ones who may have a chip on their shoulder. After all, if you meet someone like this in RL, would you care to be their friend or just move on?

Unfortunately for those who play this game casually and rely on the dungeon-finder to complete content - avoiding these people are not an option. I encounter them almost on a daily basis. So it's impossible to not let it bother them unless they were to just stop using the dungeon-finder all-together. And that's not a reasonable solution.

It would be better to tell these so-called elitists (meaning those who believe they are entitled to play only with other players who have high CP values) that they are the ones who should stop using the dungeon-finder. And that they are the ones who should pick and choose their group members more carefully. After all, they are the picky ones.

Frawr · February 2017

Guys if life is bad just come to the EU server.

Soraka · February 2017

It may be helpful to join a guild, I've seen a lot advertising as friendly dungeon guilds. Or you could advertise for a casual run. It seems like there are probably a lot of people in the same boat who would be eager to join that type of group.

KingYogi415 · February 2017

flguy147ub17_ESO · February 2017

I think there are some issues with grouping. I just came back on a new platform so started again and i think people are using dungeon finder to farm as fast as they can which is fine to do cause i have done it before but always make sure the people in the group know that mechanics and ask to see if they need to do the quest so i can wait for them to make sure they complete it. And for somebody like me now who has all green gear and zero CP and am doing the dungeons at the level appropiate from the design of the game originally and still need the quests, it pisses people off and they dont want to deal with it. The problem is they are messing up the community, returning players and new players. For instance, i dont think you should be using group finder unless you are not willing to take your time and atleast wait for people to do the quest and help new players. I love helping new players to a game or new players in general to MMOs.

People need to realize that there are many players in especially this MMO that dont even know basic mechanics like Aggro and CCs. I know i didnt my first MMO for a long time, i rolled a Tank cause i wanted to be like a Warrior type character, had zero clue what a Tank was or even DPS. Just wish more players were understanding and helpful

ADarklore · February 2017

Here's a suggestion... how about you join a GUILD and run with Guildmates, problem solved. Had the same problem in DCUO and the devs over there basically said the same thing, 'don't PUG, join a league if you don't want to deal with elitism and being kicked'.

zaria · February 2017

TheBonesXXX wrote: »

You ran into a few folks who have no social skills and have a lack of maturity and discipline. The game is more than likely all they really have to attach themselves to.

The best players in the game can take new players and teach them how to clear any type of content in the game, because their mastery is that high.

But really, who gives a *** if you get booted from a dungeon, find a static group to do content with.

Add fear, most of the troublemakers are not very good so they need the rest to be good to manage the dungeon.

Saw this in wow a lot as you only had one vote kick.
They knew that if one was kicked they was safe so they was always quick with kicking somebody.
And yes the one kick only had an benefit, the next could be worse so you was careful kicking some who was a bit weak

However the bad experiences in wow was rare, kicked once, was with an group of idiots who had kicked first healer.
Some weird stuff like the guy who enter dungeon AfK, after we had kicked another for disconnect.
Heard lots of weird stories like getting kicked for being gnome, people who set themselves to follow healer and go AfK

But I guess its most like newspapers you get the extreme stuff.

Jeremy · February 2017

covenant_merchant wrote: »

CosmicSoul wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

CosmicSoul wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Most "elitists" you decry hardly spend any time in lowbie dungeons though. So by all means this thread should not exist unless you had that one exceptional encounter that reinforces the general rule where a high CP player told you to get good, and got so butthurt you've decided to QQ about it.

What kind of arrogant comment is this? Tons of players want vipers set from fungal grotto 1 and 2 on vet lol.

Players, not elitists. Elitists got their weapons ages ago when they were still BoE, because elitists are ahead of the curve. And bought their golden jewelry from the Undaunted vendor.

Players who farm Viper now, especially when it's been nerfed, are probably just other entitled no-name randoms who think they can still equip sets and be gods on the battlefield. And once again, players farming gear other than monster sets do so in normal mode, which you can easily solo if you're a true elitist refusing to associate yourself with peasants like yourself.

Damn...

I have no patience for posters whose threads reek of entitlement and bs. It's a casual game, and 99% of the players won't grieve you because of your CP and lack of skill if you acknowledge it and do your best. However this incessant whining on forums about being slighted is getting annoying, especially when these threads have no evidence, anecdotes, or any other relevant info to contribute to the "rise of elitists" theory.

If you are going to whine, please do so with class to brighten our early morning hours.

Here, I took the liberty of researching How to Write a Good Rant in 15 steps with pictures for you. Please take notes and edit your post accordingly.

Excuse me? How hypocritical considering your literally doing the same thing, and this is not an entitlement this is about elitists attitude abusing vote kick and more, wasting your time. You are seeing allot of complaints on it because it happens, lol evidence? Seriously you want me to provide a video for you when elitism has existed since the dawn of online gaming? You do not need evidence your not make any sense at all considering how many report this kind of thing on a daily basis why would anyone lie about it? Many people are experiencing the same thing period.

Doing what exact same thing? As for all your erroneous assumptions, I never vote to kicked a player from a random dungeon. (Dailies aren't included. When players lie about their DPS or Healing abilities in vCOA2, they deserve to get rekt).

Either I farm CoH I in normal mode for Ebon Weapons (which beats farming nMOL for Alkosh one), in which case I can carry all the group by myself regardless of their level, and actually encourage them to read the quest and enjoy the sights while I clean out the trash waves.

Or else I farm Hist motifs with organised good groups, in which case I'm hardly voting to kick my OP friends.

Most Elitist threads that go 'round the forum are equally hilarious bs, like this one . Or else, that famous thread, from which I took the liberty to post a screenshot.

As you can see, the OP here is a tank looking to run dailies with a group of 3DD + Healer "fast run", and gets just as butthurt as you when the "elitists" in question refuses his unwanted advances. So excuse me for failing to take you seriously unless you offer concrete and substantial proof that you've indeed been slighted and it's not just a childish tantrum to get some attention.

After reading your example: It's likely the OP was just asking if the group was having trouble finding a tank because the leader said they were going tankless . Therefore the OP could have just assumed they might have been having trouble finding one (maybe they had a friend who played a tank who might could help etc.) So unless you know otherwise, I don't really come away after reading this conversation that this was some tank trying to insert themselves into a DPS slot. It seems like the opposite to me, and that the OP was just trying to be helpful.

The "Rude Player" then assumes this player doesn't know the dungeon mechanics and in a very off-handed way dismisses them.

To be honest, I do think the "Rude Player" acted rudely here. I would certainly never entertain another request by this player after being treated like that. You can fault the OP for answering a Max CP request when they weren't, but that's about it. And even then, he did make that clear.

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2017

Why do people have such issues when the solution is SO SIMPLE !! JOIN A GUILD !!!!

Don't get me wrong, there are as many a****h*** in guilds than in the general crowd. BUT getting to know the people in a guild take only one or two weeks, after which you know whom to seek and whom to avoid. JOIN A GUILD !!

ZOS_DaryaK · February 2017

We have closed this thread as there are other discussions about this topic that are far more constructive, and civil.