200k AP/H sitting afk at BB mine
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Jaybe_Mawfaka✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
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✭KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
I see lol. I suppose I should have said "I feel it will be primarily pve'ers"PC - NA @LadyLavina 1800+ CP PvP Tank and PvP Healer0 -
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✭✭@Jaybe_Mawfaka is just a fotm reroller macro user.- EU - Raid Leader of Banana Zerg Squad
AD | AR 50 | Sanct Fir'eheal | ex Mana DK @31.10.2015
EP | AR 50 | Sanctosaurus | Mana NB
AD | AR 44 | rekt ya | Mana NB
AD | AR 41 | Sanct Thunderstorm | Mana Sorc
EP | AR 36 | S'na'ct | Mana NB {NA}
AD | AR 29 | Captain Full Fist| Stam DK
AD | AR 29 | Sanct The Dark Phoenix| Stam Sorc
EP | AR 16 | Horny Sanct | Stam Warden
EP | AR 16 | Sánct Bánáná Sláyér | Mana DK
DC | AR 13 | ad worst faction eu | Stam Sorc
DC | AR 13 | Lagendary Sanct | Mana NB
>320.000.000 AP5 -
Chair✭✭✭LadyLavina wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
I see lol. I suppose I should have said "I feel it will be primarily pve'ers"
I made best house
@Jaybe_Mawfaka *Slow mo running intensifies*Edited by Chair on February 13, 2017 10:25AM100% Not Miruku I swear
Stamblade Rank 50 (No AP flipping involved)
DK Rank 35( Retired)Grand Overlord Flawless Conqueror Dro-M'athra DestroyerPrincess Guar Of Guar Squad OP
DD for The Phoenix Reborn
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✭LadyLavina wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
I see lol. I suppose I should have said "I feel it will be primarily pve'ers"
I made best house
Nope, I refuse to acknowledge it. My labyrinth is awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM Edited by covenant_merchant on February 13, 2017 11:13AM8 -
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✭✭✭✭This doesn't change the fact that I have openly admitted to doing it for a few hours maybe gained a couple 100k of AP but I never once advanced so far in rank or ability that it affected other players.
I am still under AR 30 and only used the AP to buy gear which btw RNG is still shitting out worthless traits. So If I harmed anyone I harmed myself by wasting the time doing this that unfortunately I can never get back. Stop crying over spilt milk and just play the game.
So you did it at least 33x? I am so sorry, it must have been awful gaining all that AP. You are the real victim here, not the game. ZOS should be giving you more AP not taking it away. @ZOS_BrianWheeler please give him more AP to compensate for his pain and suffering caused by this malicious bug that preys on anyone that approaches Black Boot. If not I will set up a charity to help these poor innocent victims recover from all the pain they endured when Black Boot viciously attacked them.Edited by Armitas on February 13, 2017 11:35AMRetired.
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yamadas✭✭✭covenant_merchant wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
I see lol. I suppose I should have said "I feel it will be primarily pve'ers"
I made best house
Nope, I refuse to acknowledge it. My labyrinth is awesome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM
10/10
Edited by yamadas on February 13, 2017 11:29AMYamadas
Dk is Master of Shame // AR 50 (no more)
Many Alts
Necrotic Lagg
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✭✭✭✭covenant_merchant wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
I see lol. I suppose I should have said "I feel it will be primarily pve'ers"
I made best house
Nope, I refuse to acknowledge it. My labyrinth is awesome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM
What if your guests have to use the bathroom?Edited by Armitas on February 13, 2017 11:33AMRetired.
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✭covenant_merchant wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
I see lol. I suppose I should have said "I feel it will be primarily pve'ers"
I made best house
Nope, I refuse to acknowledge it. My labyrinth is awesome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM
What if your guests have to use the bathroom?
It makes great compost for the hedges. Or else they can portal it out somewhere else with *magic*.1 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭covenant_merchant wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
I see lol. I suppose I should have said "I feel it will be primarily pve'ers"
I made best house
Nope, I refuse to acknowledge it. My labyrinth is awesome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM
You win.1 -
Jaybe_Mawfaka✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
I see lol. I suppose I should have said "I feel it will be primarily pve'ers"
I made best house
Nope, I refuse to acknowledge it. My labyrinth is awesome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM
You win.
Decent.0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭Jaybe_Mawfaka wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
I see lol. I suppose I should have said "I feel it will be primarily pve'ers"
I made best house
Nope, I refuse to acknowledge it. My labyrinth is awesome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM
You win.
Decent.
RoT wins again.0 -
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✭KisoValley wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »
You haven't met @Jaybe_Mawfaka. This guy made a pimp mansion and now has minions farming house mats for him.
He's a PvPer.
I see lol. I suppose I should have said "I feel it will be primarily pve'ers"
I made best house
Nope, I refuse to acknowledge it. My labyrinth is awesome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM
You win.
Thank you
Jaybe_Mawfaka wrote: »Decent.
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waitwhat✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »Road to grand overlord via Roleplaying a war at Bleakers Outpost.
Can't wait to read the lorebook on that one.
PS4 NA AD ScourgeVivec Loading Screen Simulator 2017
Khajiit stamblade main - Walking the Two-Moons Path and robbing cute Breton boys.
Breton magplar vet Trial Healer - Promoting wellness through self-reflection.
Argonian Tripot DK Cyrodiil Tank - One with the Hist and guarding cute Breton boys.
Altmer magsorc PvE DPS - Scamp tramp and unrepentant lush.
"30s to eval"
"Read the ******* lorebook."1 -
waitwhat✭✭✭✭✭covenant_merchant wrote: »Yeah, I get what you're saying, and I don't consider this being an exploit either. Easy - sure. Condemnable - maybe. But exploit? Nope.
As it stands for me at least, it beats getting zerged alone on TF since every single person I usually play with is afk at Bleakers, and it allows me to paint my nails while getting that much closer to the final pages of the Akaviri motif that I miss.
It is the epitome of an exploit. That's less debatable than it being condemable.
It's an error in the codebase that is knowingly used by players to gain a positive outcome that would not be possible without the exploit. Specifically, BB mine erroneously gives 6k AP, allowing players to farm the resource and generate vastly larger AP gains than they would have been able to if BB gave its correct 1.2k AP reward.
Farming BB Mine =/= Farming Outposts.
Outposts take more time to cap, lose, and reflip than a resource, and are thus less efficient to farm than a resource when the two give equal AP rewards. Moreover, in some ways, outposts can be easier to defend and hold forever than keeps, because outposts have only three walls that can be sieged and a much smaller perimeter to guard.PS4 NA AD ScourgeVivec Loading Screen Simulator 2017
Khajiit stamblade main - Walking the Two-Moons Path and robbing cute Breton boys.
Breton magplar vet Trial Healer - Promoting wellness through self-reflection.
Argonian Tripot DK Cyrodiil Tank - One with the Hist and guarding cute Breton boys.
Altmer magsorc PvE DPS - Scamp tramp and unrepentant lush.
"30s to eval"
"Read the ******* lorebook."3 -
waitwhat✭✭✭✭✭covenant_merchant wrote: »Yeah, I get what you're saying, and I don't consider this being an exploit either. Easy - sure. Condemnable - maybe. But exploit? Nope.
As it stands for me at least, it beats getting zerged alone on TF since every single person I usually play with is afk at Bleakers, and it allows me to paint my nails while getting that much closer to the final pages of the Akaviri motif that I miss.
You could try to make new friends or help people you don't know, pursuing victory in the campaign for its own sake rather than for any tangible reward.Edited by waitwhat on February 14, 2017 12:44AMPS4 NA AD ScourgeVivec Loading Screen Simulator 2017
Khajiit stamblade main - Walking the Two-Moons Path and robbing cute Breton boys.
Breton magplar vet Trial Healer - Promoting wellness through self-reflection.
Argonian Tripot DK Cyrodiil Tank - One with the Hist and guarding cute Breton boys.
Altmer magsorc PvE DPS - Scamp tramp and unrepentant lush.
"30s to eval"
"Read the ******* lorebook."1 -
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✭covenant_merchant wrote: »Yeah, I get what you're saying, and I don't consider this being an exploit either. Easy - sure. Condemnable - maybe. But exploit? Nope.
As it stands for me at least, it beats getting zerged alone on TF since every single person I usually play with is afk at Bleakers, and it allows me to paint my nails while getting that much closer to the final pages of the Akaviri motif that I miss.
It is the epitome of an exploit. That's less debatable than it being condemable.
It's an error in the codebase that is knowingly used by players to gain a positive outcome that would not be possible without the exploit. Specifically, BB mine erroneously gives 6k AP, allowing players to farm the resource and generate vastly larger AP gains than they would have been able to if BB gave its correct 1.2k AP reward.
Farming BB Mine =/= Farming Outposts.
Outposts take more time to cap, lose, and reflip than a resource, and are thus less efficient to farm than a resource when the two give equal AP rewards. Moreover, in some ways, outposts can be easier to defend and hold forever than keeps, because outposts have only three walls that can be sieged and a much smaller perimeter to guard.
I was referring to the outpost farming, which as far as I am concerned, is not an exploit...
And both BB mine and the Bleakers' flipping yields the same AP - 200k/hour. You're welcome to join us.
As for pursuing the victory of the campaign? Go preach it to Big Boss. Or call me when it actually means and gives something beyond that same cheap fleeting feeling of satisfaction you get from gaining AP. Lets face it, PVP is beyond broken this patch. I can't streak, I can't see my enemies.. And that's just piling up on all the crap we had to fight through the previous patches : procs, players stacking like crazy, more tankiness from every single random pug out there, yadda yadda.
Also adding to the whole "winning the campaign" sentiment, you clearly haven't played on TF recently if you think anything other than AD has a chance of winning it. (Which incidentally adds to the willingness of many players to farm outposts instead). When you roll over everyone with 40+ man trains even at 6am, at some point people will stop bothering and you'll be left alone to play with your stone walls and getting high on that wonderful feeling of "winning the campaign".Edited by covenant_merchant on February 16, 2017 7:13AM0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭covenant_merchant wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »Yeah, I get what you're saying, and I don't consider this being an exploit either. Easy - sure. Condemnable - maybe. But exploit? Nope.
As it stands for me at least, it beats getting zerged alone on TF since every single person I usually play with is afk at Bleakers, and it allows me to paint my nails while getting that much closer to the final pages of the Akaviri motif that I miss.
It is the epitome of an exploit. That's less debatable than it being condemable.
It's an error in the codebase that is knowingly used by players to gain a positive outcome that would not be possible without the exploit. Specifically, BB mine erroneously gives 6k AP, allowing players to farm the resource and generate vastly larger AP gains than they would have been able to if BB gave its correct 1.2k AP reward.
Farming BB Mine =/= Farming Outposts.
Outposts take more time to cap, lose, and reflip than a resource, and are thus less efficient to farm than a resource when the two give equal AP rewards. Moreover, in some ways, outposts can be easier to defend and hold forever than keeps, because outposts have only three walls that can be sieged and a much smaller perimeter to guard.
I was referring to the outpost farming, which as far as I am concerned, is not an exploit...
And both BB mine and the Bleakers' flipping yields the same AP - 200k/hour. You're welcome to join us.
As for pursuing the victory of the campaign? Go preach it to Big Boss. Or call me when it actually means and gives something beyond that same cheap fleeting feeling of satisfaction you get from gaining AP. Lets face it, PVP is beyond broken this patch. I can't streak, I can't see my enemies.. And that's just piling up on all the crap we had to fight through the previous patches : procs, players stacking like crazy, more tankiness from every single random pug out there, yadda yadda.
Also adding to the whole "winning the campaign" sentiment, you clearly haven't played on TF recently if you think anything other than AD has a chance of winning it. (Which incidentally adds to the willingness of many players to farm outposts instead). When you roll over everyone with 40+ man trains even at 6am, at some point people will stop bothering and you'll be left alone to play with your stone walls and getting high on that wonderful feeling of "winning the campaign".
Your spoiler in your sig brought back bad memories...0 -
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✭KisoValley wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »Yeah, I get what you're saying, and I don't consider this being an exploit either. Easy - sure. Condemnable - maybe. But exploit? Nope.
As it stands for me at least, it beats getting zerged alone on TF since every single person I usually play with is afk at Bleakers, and it allows me to paint my nails while getting that much closer to the final pages of the Akaviri motif that I miss.
It is the epitome of an exploit. That's less debatable than it being condemable.
It's an error in the codebase that is knowingly used by players to gain a positive outcome that would not be possible without the exploit. Specifically, BB mine erroneously gives 6k AP, allowing players to farm the resource and generate vastly larger AP gains than they would have been able to if BB gave its correct 1.2k AP reward.
Farming BB Mine =/= Farming Outposts.
Outposts take more time to cap, lose, and reflip than a resource, and are thus less efficient to farm than a resource when the two give equal AP rewards. Moreover, in some ways, outposts can be easier to defend and hold forever than keeps, because outposts have only three walls that can be sieged and a much smaller perimeter to guard.
I was referring to the outpost farming, which as far as I am concerned, is not an exploit...
And both BB mine and the Bleakers' flipping yields the same AP - 200k/hour. You're welcome to join us.
As for pursuing the victory of the campaign? Go preach it to Big Boss. Or call me when it actually means and gives something beyond that same cheap fleeting feeling of satisfaction you get from gaining AP. Lets face it, PVP is beyond broken this patch. I can't streak, I can't see my enemies.. And that's just piling up on all the crap we had to fight through the previous patches : procs, players stacking like crazy, more tankiness from every single random pug out there, yadda yadda.
Also adding to the whole "winning the campaign" sentiment, you clearly haven't played on TF recently if you think anything other than AD has a chance of winning it. (Which incidentally adds to the willingness of many players to farm outposts instead). When you roll over everyone with 40+ man trains even at 6am, at some point people will stop bothering and you'll be left alone to play with your stone walls and getting high on that wonderful feeling of "winning the campaign".
Your spoiler in your sig brought back bad memories...
That's the point.
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✭ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »We have the list of all players in the EU and NA that gained AP from Black Boot Mine and discussing what actions to take with that information.
Put on the pants. Considering the nature of perma bans that have been handed out in the past over petty, non exploitative issues (myself included), I expect the bigger deal issues like Cheat Engine and Exploits like this to be treated seriously and not lightly. The problem with these kids today is you guys and everyone else hands them a trophy for 8th place. At some point they need to learn accountability so please be a responsible corporate citizen and uphold some integrity in your game.
I pledge to make a huge crown purchase if perma bans are handed out to these cheaters. Were trying to sustain an honest, fun pvp community and there are still certain individuals who were clearly never spanked enough as a kid that need to fulfill some meaningless level of leetness in game at the expense of others.
I would also recommend perma banning anyone who uses words like Exposed, Salty, and Pleb...you know, nerdspeak.Edited by Malamar1229 on February 15, 2017 6:08PM3 -
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✭LegendaryChef wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »LegendaryChef wrote: »Is it too late now to say sorry?
Hush Baldy. Just say you were roleplaying. You did nothing wrong here, merely pretend to play at a war with other like-minded individuals.
I'm not worried, I haven't logged in since I was last killed by an invisible player
Is this bug something a player can do intentionally or is it like random? I was killed by an invisible sorc overloading me to death and I couldnt LOS cuz I couldnt see him hitting me.0 -
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✭covenant_merchant wrote: »I'm sorry, "whataboutism" isn't a valid defense.
You don't get caught for a crime then list off in court all the other people you know who didn't get punished for other crimes. Sorry lol. The judge would look at you and laugh.
If there's no legal framework defining said crime, or if it's gray af and you can come with a plausible defense like roleplaying, you'd laugh at the judge.
ZOS can ban you today, tomorrow, or whenever they want and there is not a single thing you can do about it.7 -
Victimize✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »We have the list of all players in the EU and NA that gained AP from Black Boot Mine and discussing what actions to take with that information.
Put on the pants. Considering the nature of perma bans that have been handed out in the past over petty, non exploitative issues (myself included), I expect the bigger deal issues like Cheat Engine and Exploits like this to be treated seriously and not lightly. The problem with these kids today is you guys and everyone else hands them a trophy for 8th place. At some point they need to learn accountability so please be a responsible corporate citizen and uphold some integrity in your game.
I pledge to make a huge crown purchase if perma bans are handed out to these cheaters. Were trying to sustain an honest, fun pvp community and there are still certain individuals who were clearly never spanked enough as a kid that need to fulfill some meaningless level of leetness in game at the expense of others.
I would also recommend perma banning anyone who uses words like Exposed, Salty, and Pleb...you know, nerdspeak.
PlebEdited by Victimize on February 15, 2017 6:24PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »I'm sorry, "whataboutism" isn't a valid defense.
You don't get caught for a crime then list off in court all the other people you know who didn't get punished for other crimes. Sorry lol. The judge would look at you and laugh.
If there's no legal framework defining said crime, or if it's gray af and you can come with a plausible defense like roleplaying, you'd laugh at the judge.
ZOS can ban you today, tomorrow, or whenever they want and there is not a single thing you can do about it.
I love how they keep thinking they've got some legal recourse or that they'd ever see the inside of a courtroom for getting kicked out of a videogame.4 -
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✭covenant_merchant wrote: »Here are the facts:
ZOS admitted to an error in coding 2 years ago regarding this particular resource.
Here is the objective of the game:
To control objectives for your faction in order to gain pts for your faction at each score evaluation.
Here is the reality:
It doesn't matter what ZOS does the mistake was admitted and blame has been laid.
The player have acted in accordance with the objectives of the map and have not altered cheated or exploited any part of the coding in order to gain an advantage over any other player.
There can be no action taken against the players when ZOS was made aware of the bug on February 7th by the players via their own bug forum.
If ZOS takes adverse action against any player it would be a public relations nightmare for ZOS and there share holders.
What ZOS should have done was hot fix the error immediately.
Precedence for this type of activity was set when this occurred during the release of the CP system. ZOS made the error and took weeks to correct and punished no one nor did they roll back any of the CP that had been earned which by the way clearly gave advantage to many players hence why the gated CP system was introduced.
There is nothing more to discuss other than when the hotfix will be released.
You are like a little kid, face full of cookie crumbs, standing next to an empty cookie jar, telling mommy you didn't eat all the cookies, and if you did it was no big deal because cookies are made to be eaten.
are they not made to be eaten? If I was stealing them then yeah it would be an issue, but I'm not. I am simply turning a resource from one color to the appropriate color of the faction that owns the keep. I can not alter the fact that it provides more AP than others and it would be illogical to simply ignore the fact that it is blue when it is a yellow home keep. Perhaps you can tell the other factions that are located to the east and west to stay in their territory. One should never cross a bridge or a gate for the purpose of gaining something that is not theirs to begin with.
Interpretation is a very hard process, many players simply make judgements based on their own character or experience. When you are dealing with a global population you can not impose your own values on others. It always requires compromise that's what democracy is suppose to be about. ZOS has had a week to act on this and hotfix it. They are the ones who have failed in a responsibility to the players. It's also up to them to decide what is right and wrong.
You are using a lot of words trying to explain that you didn't knowingly use an exploit. You got caught.
Omg who cares. His words are pretty and should work as a credible excuse.
But it wont. We were intended to cross a bridge and take keeps. It was never intended for BB to give that AP, just like it was not intended to glitch Rakk, use two mundus without Tbs, etc
Whats even funnier is when he gets perma banned and then tries to sue, itll go nowhereEdited by Malamar1229 on February 15, 2017 9:15PM1 -
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✭They're actually removing AP from the inventory of those who accidentally found themselves near BB mine during the incident as we speak.
Rest in pieces, fellow compatriots and roleplayers, victims of an unjust and cruel system. And rest in pieces those who haven't already laundered their gains.Malamar1229 wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »I'm sorry, "whataboutism" isn't a valid defense.
You don't get caught for a crime then list off in court all the other people you know who didn't get punished for other crimes. Sorry lol. The judge would look at you and laugh.
If there's no legal framework defining said crime, or if it's gray af and you can come with a plausible defense like roleplaying, you'd laugh at the judge.
ZOS can ban you today, tomorrow, or whenever they want and there is not a single thing you can do about it.
Yo dude, I'm not the one claiming to sue ? I'm actually making fun of it, because lets face it, it's ridiculous and the stuff of gutter press. "Man goes to court over the loss of virtual currency in a videogame". So stop trying to mingle me with these guys who give a bad name to all the rest of us creative players interested in making fast and easy AP.Malamar1229 wrote: »
I pledge to make a huge crown purchase if perma bans are handed out to these cheaters. Were trying to sustain an honest, fun pvp community and there are still certain individuals who were clearly never spanked enough as a kid that need to fulfill some meaningless level of leetness in game at the expense of others.
I would also recommend perma banning anyone who uses words like Exposed, Salty, and Pleb...you know, nerdspeak.
You use "leetness" and ask to perma ban people who speak "nerd" in the same post. You have been disqualified from participating in any further debate for contradicting yourself, making unreasonable not to mention stupid pledges, and altogether not making any sense.
Edited by covenant_merchant on February 15, 2017 10:02PM2 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »Here are the facts:
ZOS admitted to an error in coding 2 years ago regarding this particular resource.
Here is the objective of the game:
To control objectives for your faction in order to gain pts for your faction at each score evaluation.
Here is the reality:
It doesn't matter what ZOS does the mistake was admitted and blame has been laid.
The player have acted in accordance with the objectives of the map and have not altered cheated or exploited any part of the coding in order to gain an advantage over any other player.
There can be no action taken against the players when ZOS was made aware of the bug on February 7th by the players via their own bug forum.
If ZOS takes adverse action against any player it would be a public relations nightmare for ZOS and there share holders.
What ZOS should have done was hot fix the error immediately.
Precedence for this type of activity was set when this occurred during the release of the CP system. ZOS made the error and took weeks to correct and punished no one nor did they roll back any of the CP that had been earned which by the way clearly gave advantage to many players hence why the gated CP system was introduced.
There is nothing more to discuss other than when the hotfix will be released.
You are like a little kid, face full of cookie crumbs, standing next to an empty cookie jar, telling mommy you didn't eat all the cookies, and if you did it was no big deal because cookies are made to be eaten.
are they not made to be eaten? If I was stealing them then yeah it would be an issue, but I'm not. I am simply turning a resource from one color to the appropriate color of the faction that owns the keep. I can not alter the fact that it provides more AP than others and it would be illogical to simply ignore the fact that it is blue when it is a yellow home keep. Perhaps you can tell the other factions that are located to the east and west to stay in their territory. One should never cross a bridge or a gate for the purpose of gaining something that is not theirs to begin with.
Interpretation is a very hard process, many players simply make judgements based on their own character or experience. When you are dealing with a global population you can not impose your own values on others. It always requires compromise that's what democracy is suppose to be about. ZOS has had a week to act on this and hotfix it. They are the ones who have failed in a responsibility to the players. It's also up to them to decide what is right and wrong.
You are using a lot of words trying to explain that you didn't knowingly use an exploit. You got caught.
Omg who cares. His words are pretty and should work as a credible excuse.
But it wont. We were intended to cross a bridge and take keeps. It was never intended for BB to give that AP, just like it was not intended to glitch Rakk, use two mundus without Tbs, etc
Whats even funnier is when he gets perma banned and then tries to sue, itll go nowhere
She*
Don't disrespect my fellow roleplayer by calling her a he please and thanks.1 -
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✭Malamar1229 wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »We have the list of all players in the EU and NA that gained AP from Black Boot Mine and discussing what actions to take with that information.
Put on the pants. Considering the nature of perma bans that have been handed out in the past over petty, non exploitative issues (myself included), I expect the bigger deal issues like Cheat Engine and Exploits like this to be treated seriously and not lightly. The problem with these kids today is you guys and everyone else hands them a trophy for 8th place. At some point they need to learn accountability so please be a responsible corporate citizen and uphold some integrity in your game.
I pledge to make a huge crown purchase if perma bans are handed out to these cheaters. Were trying to sustain an honest, fun pvp community and there are still certain individuals who were clearly never spanked enough as a kid that need to fulfill some meaningless level of leetness in game at the expense of others.
I would also recommend perma banning anyone who uses words like Exposed, Salty, and Pleb...you know, nerdspeak.KisoValley wrote: »Malamar1229 wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »Here are the facts:
ZOS admitted to an error in coding 2 years ago regarding this particular resource.
Here is the objective of the game:
To control objectives for your faction in order to gain pts for your faction at each score evaluation.
Here is the reality:
It doesn't matter what ZOS does the mistake was admitted and blame has been laid.
The player have acted in accordance with the objectives of the map and have not altered cheated or exploited any part of the coding in order to gain an advantage over any other player.
There can be no action taken against the players when ZOS was made aware of the bug on February 7th by the players via their own bug forum.
If ZOS takes adverse action against any player it would be a public relations nightmare for ZOS and there share holders.
What ZOS should have done was hot fix the error immediately.
Precedence for this type of activity was set when this occurred during the release of the CP system. ZOS made the error and took weeks to correct and punished no one nor did they roll back any of the CP that had been earned which by the way clearly gave advantage to many players hence why the gated CP system was introduced.
There is nothing more to discuss other than when the hotfix will be released.
You are like a little kid, face full of cookie crumbs, standing next to an empty cookie jar, telling mommy you didn't eat all the cookies, and if you did it was no big deal because cookies are made to be eaten.
are they not made to be eaten? If I was stealing them then yeah it would be an issue, but I'm not. I am simply turning a resource from one color to the appropriate color of the faction that owns the keep. I can not alter the fact that it provides more AP than others and it would be illogical to simply ignore the fact that it is blue when it is a yellow home keep. Perhaps you can tell the other factions that are located to the east and west to stay in their territory. One should never cross a bridge or a gate for the purpose of gaining something that is not theirs to begin with.
Interpretation is a very hard process, many players simply make judgements based on their own character or experience. When you are dealing with a global population you can not impose your own values on others. It always requires compromise that's what democracy is suppose to be about. ZOS has had a week to act on this and hotfix it. They are the ones who have failed in a responsibility to the players. It's also up to them to decide what is right and wrong.
You are using a lot of words trying to explain that you didn't knowingly use an exploit. You got caught.
Omg who cares. His words are pretty and should work as a credible excuse.
But it wont. We were intended to cross a bridge and take keeps. It was never intended for BB to give that AP, just like it was not intended to glitch Rakk, use two mundus without Tbs, etc
Whats even funnier is when he gets perma banned and then tries to sue, itll go nowhere
She*
Don't disrespect my fellow roleplayer by calling her a he please and thanks.
Awww Kiso, thank you for defending my honor. I think this roleplaying shindig brought us closer together. Don't you feel like it's the beginning of a great adventure for us ?
And once again @Malamar1229 , let me reiterate in case you missed my "please stop this" comments. I refuse to be associated with players who threaten to sue or start whatever other legal procedures their twisted mind can come up with. They tarnish our good roleplaying reputation, be it with their lack of grammar and syntax, or with their inability to come up with decent comebacks and witty retorts. So go bother the players who actually raised up the issue and ridiculed themselves in this thread.Edited by covenant_merchant on February 15, 2017 10:46PM2
