Haven't seen so many DKs since 1.5

Sugaroverdose · February 2017

Magdk who hate to be rooted and being vamp, you've chosen bad class to play

Subversus · February 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

@LeifErickson I forgot that one! I've been enjoying my long ranged Impale snipes lately too. XD

@Subversus Do you find the game fun to play inside your bubble? I can't fathom how you don't consider these things buffs to mageblade, in duels or otherwise.

Wrote a long ass post as a response but nvm. Think whatever you want.

NBrookus · February 2017

Armitas wrote: »

It's kind of a preemptive suggestion because I fear they are going to globally nerf roots due to encase spam which is far different than DK roots. They never take the time to do things right, they just do it the easiest way they can.

Because nerfing roots after buffing encase makes sense.

I don't understand why the best mobility class in the game, that can literally zip around enemies and have expedition up 100%, even has a ranged root. Melee root (mines) to help them escape enemies right in their face makes sense.

enzoisadog · February 2017

90% fotm magicka dks

Ghostbane · February 2017

pead wrote: »

90% fotm magicka dks

No peasants allowed. Back to Ghratwood.

zuto40 · February 2017

add a root immunity and i wouldnt have a complaint against these mdks

Armitas · February 2017

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

Magdk who hate to be rooted and being vamp, you've chosen bad class to play

For reals.

Asgari · February 2017

I have never understood the complaint of talons. On all the characters i play ive never had an issue fighting a DK who spams it. If they spam talons they are wasting so much magicka who cares. On top of that you can still fight when you are in talons.

kadar · February 2017

I'm not great at mDK.

After the update, they feel strong. I caught a fairly skilled sNB in a 1v1 and came out comfortably on top. And Coagulating Blood...is hella strong. Getting 6k crits with full health, and found a couple 10k heals in my log while I was low health.

Derra · February 2017

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Its not so much roots need a cooldown, its more so the amount of snaring that happens is atrocious. DK and Templar are the two classes on magicka that NEED roots. Otherwise they cant keep up with the other two magicka variants or any stamina players.

Instead of seeing root immunity id much rather see snares not stacking over 50% and when the 50% is reached you are immune to snares for 2.5 seconds. Also the gap closer snare needs to be removed if you have this immunity up as well which can be applied to mist form users.

Why do you need roots when you can already snare an enemy and also have working gapclosers at your disposal?

I very much think being able to permanently limit the movement of an opponent is broken. That´s due to esos design though. You have dmg abilities also having root as a secondary effect.

Imo if you want to root or snare a target that should be the main effect of the ability. A prime example would be encase.
If you want to lock me down you shouldn´t be dealing dmg at the same time.

I agree on snares 100%! My solution would be different though.
Have a major + minor buff system for snares aswell (i mean they already have that in place for movement buffs - why not for impared movement???). Minor snare reduces movement speed by 15% major snare reduces speed by 35%. Minor and major can stack but thats it. You get a maximum of 50% snare when you can access both buffs.

Asgari · February 2017

Derra wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Its not so much roots need a cooldown, its more so the amount of snaring that happens is atrocious. DK and Templar are the two classes on magicka that NEED roots. Otherwise they cant keep up with the other two magicka variants or any stamina players.

Instead of seeing root immunity id much rather see snares not stacking over 50% and when the 50% is reached you are immune to snares for 2.5 seconds. Also the gap closer snare needs to be removed if you have this immunity up as well which can be applied to mist form users.

Why do you need roots when you can already snare an enemy and also have working gapclosers at your disposal?

I very much think being able to permanently limit the movement of an opponent is broken. That´s due to esos design though. You have dmg abilities also having root as a secondary effect.

Imo if you want to root or snare a target that should be the main effect of the ability. A prime example would be encase.
If you want to lock me down you shouldn´t be dealing dmg at the same time.

I agree on snares 100%! My solution would be different though.
Have a major + minor buff system for snares aswell (i mean they already have that in place for movement buffs - why not for impared movement???). Minor snare reduces movement speed by 15% major snare reduces speed by 35%. Minor and major can stack but thats it. You get a maximum of 50% snare when you can access both buffs.

Sure take what i just said and word it better. stealing my idea huh?

Derra · February 2017

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Its not so much roots need a cooldown, its more so the amount of snaring that happens is atrocious. DK and Templar are the two classes on magicka that NEED roots. Otherwise they cant keep up with the other two magicka variants or any stamina players.

Instead of seeing root immunity id much rather see snares not stacking over 50% and when the 50% is reached you are immune to snares for 2.5 seconds. Also the gap closer snare needs to be removed if you have this immunity up as well which can be applied to mist form users.

Why do you need roots when you can already snare an enemy and also have working gapclosers at your disposal?

I very much think being able to permanently limit the movement of an opponent is broken. That´s due to esos design though. You have dmg abilities also having root as a secondary effect.

Imo if you want to root or snare a target that should be the main effect of the ability. A prime example would be encase.
If you want to lock me down you shouldn´t be dealing dmg at the same time.

I agree on snares 100%! My solution would be different though.
Have a major + minor buff system for snares aswell (i mean they already have that in place for movement buffs - why not for impared movement???). Minor snare reduces movement speed by 15% major snare reduces speed by 35%. Minor and major can stack but thats it. You get a maximum of 50% snare when you can access both buffs.

Sure take what i just said and word it better. stealing my idea huh?

Already brought major + minor snares up a couple of weeks ago

If you want to look at it that way: It improves the idea in the way that maybe not all builds can access all forms of snares and getting snare to 50% might be less likely to happen.

Talons isn´t thaaat much of an issue. The top offenders for roots imo are cripple, icy reach and petrify.

Jjitsuboy98 · February 2017

Is light armor Mag dk back though......

Asgari · February 2017

Derra wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Its not so much roots need a cooldown, its more so the amount of snaring that happens is atrocious. DK and Templar are the two classes on magicka that NEED roots. Otherwise they cant keep up with the other two magicka variants or any stamina players.

Instead of seeing root immunity id much rather see snares not stacking over 50% and when the 50% is reached you are immune to snares for 2.5 seconds. Also the gap closer snare needs to be removed if you have this immunity up as well which can be applied to mist form users.

Why do you need roots when you can already snare an enemy and also have working gapclosers at your disposal?

I very much think being able to permanently limit the movement of an opponent is broken. That´s due to esos design though. You have dmg abilities also having root as a secondary effect.

Imo if you want to root or snare a target that should be the main effect of the ability. A prime example would be encase.
If you want to lock me down you shouldn´t be dealing dmg at the same time.

I agree on snares 100%! My solution would be different though.
Have a major + minor buff system for snares aswell (i mean they already have that in place for movement buffs - why not for impared movement???). Minor snare reduces movement speed by 15% major snare reduces speed by 35%. Minor and major can stack but thats it. You get a maximum of 50% snare when you can access both buffs.

Sure take what i just said and word it better. stealing my idea huh?

Already brought major + minor snares up a couple of weeks ago

If you want to look at it that way: It improves the idea in the way that maybe not all builds can access all forms of snares and getting snare to 50% might be less likely to happen.

Talons isn´t thaaat much of an issue. The top offenders for roots imo are cripple, icy reach and petrify.

I'm just messing with you. But yeah I'd love to see a major and minor of reduced mobility (Sanre). No reason there shouldn't be one already.

Derra · February 2017

On topic: DK does not seem fixed imo

And since i don´t actively play one - i don´t know why.

Kas · February 2017

Armitas wrote: »

Here is the part that really gets me and leaves with little faith for the future. It's basically this...DK wouldn't be "back" at all if it wasn't for the community. If it were left to those in charge we wouldn't be "back." If the community didn't spend all their time and effort on the PTS explaining why the initial DB buff was absurd then we wouldn't be "back" at all. And just to get to that point it took ~2years of DK's fighting to convince Wrobel to fix dragonsblood even though it was bad in PvE and PvP; it isn't even used in trial tanking. It took 2 years to convince them it was a bad skill for every part of the game.

Are we going to have to fight and dedicate huge chunks of our time for everything on the DK? Some of us were fighting for a better wings before the update but now, after the nerf, its only in a slightly better situation then frag shield. So the fighting isn't even over yet. This game is suppose to be recreation, you go to the park and get on the slide, but instead you have to spend years in city hall cause the slide has splinters and doesn't even reach the ground.

Imho players will cry a lot about OP dks in a few Weeks. Remember when players got destro ult buffed during ot pts?

Magus · February 2017

I did some quick gearing and testing with it, and holy crap... just holy crap lol. Pretty complete tool set to work with. Just trying to figure out what I want to run now, so many options.

Drishtan · February 2017

*** love Mag Dk Changes...

As to sustain....Run Le Drain and problem fixed!

forzajuve212 · February 2017

Etaniel wrote: »

DK has been really fun for me since One tamriel actually, dk has been back for a while.

This ^

Minalan · February 2017

You know the BEST part about MDK's coming back?

There is now a real downside to being a vampire. Finally.

Fire leaps and lava whips everywhere.

Turtl3Lov3 · February 2017

They all be a bunch of reroll sissies, wild sudanese boar, or hasbeens that couldn't l2p after we lost dynamic ult as far as I'm concerned.
*cries softly*

PainfulFAFA · February 2017

Kilandros wrote: »

The biggest issue mDKs have right now is sustain - they burn through magicka.

This

BuggeX · February 2017

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

The biggest issue mDKs have right now is sustain - they burn through magicka.

This

with the right build this isnt a Problem, i rather emtpy my pool of 18k stam than 30k magicka..

Turtl3Lov3 · February 2017

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

The biggest issue mDKs have right now is sustain - they burn through magicka.

This

If you're having a problem with sustain you're probably not doing it right, it's pretty hard to burn through your resources compared to other classes unless you spam dark deal like a wee lad.

KisoValley · February 2017

@NightbladeMechanics

You should probably give up arguing with him. He's pretty delusional and angry most of the times. He flamed out everyone in Rawl'Kha once (literally going ham, cursing their families etc.) when he was looking to argue with me ingame about another player lol.

NightbladeMechanics · February 2017

Minalan wrote: »

You know the BEST part about MDK's coming back?

There is now a real downside to being a vampire. Finally.

Fire leaps and lava whips everywhere.

Too bad mist form is necessary to survive in open world as a nonsorc magicka class.

So there isn't really more decision making to be done, just greater punishment for a still mandatory condition.

Yay..

NightbladeMechanics · February 2017

Also have all you magicka dks mentioning sustain discovered ele drain yet?

*cough*

Drishtan · February 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Also have all you magicka dks mentioning sustain discovered ele drain yet?

*cough*

Yes look at my post earlier!

Minno · February 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

You know the BEST part about MDK's coming back?

There is now a real downside to being a vampire. Finally.

Fire leaps and lava whips everywhere.

Too bad mist form is necessary to survive in open world as a nonsorc magicka class.

So there isn't really more decision making to be done, just greater punishment for a still mandatory condition.

Yay..

Expensive mobility pots with immovable buff too.

Though since this patch, it has been great playing against DK's as a staff welding Templar. It's that fine line of balance/counter balance in the fights that's refreshing and I look forward to future campaigns against the class.

runagate · February 2017

Veg wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

ye cause dk's werent already op when they can even before update in pvp, with heal debuffs on heal for over 40,000 health.

hehe me use 40k dragon blood tooooo :DDDD

wew woo wew

@Veg can I borrow your flightless bird for the year? I am in