As far as I'm concerned they can charge whatever they like in crowns because if anyone thinks it's too expensive (in general or for the specific house they want) they can just get one with gold instead. And unlike mounts it's the exact same houses available either way.

That's what I'm doing. I decided which house I want and what I'm willing to spend - the crown price is nearly double the budget I set myself so I won't be buying it that way. I'll get it with gold and use the money later on to get furniture.

lordrichter wrote: »

So, the difference between furnished and unfurnished, and the list price of the furniture, ala carte, means that either the Crown furniture is a lot cheaper, or the unfurnished price is a horrible deal, because they jacked it up to help make the furnished prices not look so bad.

Pwew, got all that into one sentence.

I think you're right that they made sure all the prices were close so that if you're looking at buying one with crowns you're more likely to feel like you may as well spend a little bit more to get it furnished.

But we don't know which prices they decided on first, it could be that they're heavily discounting the furnishings. That would make sense to me because I doubt many people are planning to buy a furnished house and then leave it exactly as it is, so even if you go that route there's a good chance you'll end up spending extra crowns to get the furnishings you actually want.

I know every time I previewed a furnished house on the PTS I found myself thinking it was helpful to see how ZOS saw it being used but I wouldn't do it that way and if I bought one furnished it was only because I wanted to experimenting with moving furnishings around and that was a quicker way to get to the 'starting point' I wanted.

It make sense what i read earlier: if they make it cheap in crown store, it have effects on in game economy. Mounts and respec srolls MUST be cheaper, but that's my opinion.

lol 15k crowns ...

leepalmer95 wrote: »

People keep comparing crown prices to buying crowns at full price.

There have been many sales where crowns have been around 50% off.

I bought 5.5k crowns a while back for £12 , which isn't too much to be honest.

The rest i've just had from saving up my eso+ for months as i've had nothing to spend it on.

Hence i could buy the 15k furnished home at the moment, all it's really cost me is £12 because i was subbed anyway.

That's worth considering, but only if you only buy crowns when they're on sale.

I always calculate the real money price of items using the cost of full priced crown packs because I buy them both when they're on sale and when they're not so if I want to work out exactly what it's costing me I'd have to keep track of how many of my crowns are full priced and how many are discounted. And if I'm going to do that I should also factor in the time I bought 1,500 crowns instead of 5,500....and it quickly becomes more hassle than it's worth.

I'd rather work out the maximum it's going to cost me and know it's probably £1 or so cheaper because some of my crowns were discounted.

It costs $39.99 for 5,500 crowns. Daggerfall Overlook costs 11,000 crowns? That means it costs $80? wtf? EIGHTY FREAKING DOLLARS?

KerinKor wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

...the unfurnished price is a horrible deal, because they jacked it up to help make the furnished prices not look so bad.

I would say this is the reason - they're making the Crown store furnished option look great vs buying an unfurnished option either through paying gold or Crowns.

Although unless you're broke in game gold buying smaller houses using gold still looks like the better option.

They really overpriced houses and furnishings in the Crown store, it's really quite nasty and abusive.

Capitalism sucks, doesn't it?

When capitalism is abused, yes, it sucks.

Normal controls of taking your business elsewhere when mis-pricing occurs are less applicable for an mmo. You have time invested and relationships formed.

Personally, I am more mildly irked by the lack of housing functionality and high pricing than infuriated. Ymmv.

Everyone is complaining about the prices, yet we buy them anyway. They are not going to change the prices because you whine. Be constructive in here. Point out the flaws in the house, like the mounts are not animated, the lack of storage options, The fact that the Topal Island and Earthtear Cavern are still not available and we don't know why or when. But please, stop just whining. Either buy them or don't.

Glaiceana wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

There's also another problem, as some houses come with things that cannot be removed. Like in Old Mistveil, if you get the furnished version, it will place banners on the walls that are permanently there. At least on the PTS...

About the permanent wall decor at Mistveil Manor, I had the same problem at first on the PTS. Did you try using the "retrieve" option on the far right of the housing editor tabs? I decorated a lot of houses, including Mistveil, and a lot of things would glitch into the floor, etc. (especially rugs!) but I was always able to get them back with retrieve. Hope this helps.

Foreverxghosty wrote: »

10,000-15,000 crowns. And Grand Topal Island and Earthtear Caverns are not even available for purchase.

And those two are the only ones I like, dam it. Especially Grand Topal Hideaway, which looks good even if unfurnished. During testing, I previewed the furnished version and it BARELY looked any different from the unfurnished one (not enough added items). With the scenic beauty, distinctly offbeat architecture far from what we usually see, and the expansive area, this manor will be a best seller for sure when and if it comes out. I'm still far from being able to afford it, but if it costs a few million in-game gold, many players will still be able to afford it. The thing already looks good unfurnished, so no need to farm like a slave if you choose not to. One sad thing is that you can't mount your horse in it, or in any house with an outdoor area. I was dreaming of building an obstacle course with fences for my horse to jump around in, but that's not gonna happen So sad. Can we do ANYTHING in your house other than looking at it and getting off from it?

arakis99ub17_ESO wrote: »

KerinKor wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

...the unfurnished price is a horrible deal, because they jacked it up to help make the furnished prices not look so bad.

I would say this is the reason - they're making the Crown store furnished option look great vs buying an unfurnished option either through paying gold or Crowns.

Although unless you're broke in game gold buying smaller houses using gold still looks like the better option.

They really overpriced houses and furnishings in the Crown store, it's really quite nasty and abusive.

Capitalism sucks, doesn't it?

When capitalism is abused, yes, it sucks.

Normal controls of taking your business elsewhere when mis-pricing occurs are less applicable for an mmo. You have time invested and relationships formed.

Personally, I am more mildly irked by the lack of housing functionality and high pricing than infuriated. Ymmv.

What functionality should it have? Are you talking about functionally that basically makes it mandatory like extra storage? Or as some people suggested Buffs for sleeping in bed?

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

@GeraintAmbrosia - it might be helpful to also add the gold prices to your list for people to compare to.

I can do that, going to update the first post later on with gold prices too.

GeraintAmbrosia wrote: »

First post now categorized by home size as well as updated with locations and gold prices, pls post errors if you find them, ty.

Fantastic.

Elchemist wrote: »

Agent1407 on reddit made a list:

Mornouth Keep unfurnished 4300 crowns (furnished 5400)
Forsaken Stronghold 6400 (8000)
Old Misvale Manor 5800 (7300)
Hundings Palatial Hall 6500 (8100)
Mathiisen Manor 6000 (7500)
Strident Springs 6300 (7900)
Quondam Indorilia 6100 (7600)
Domus Phrasticus 4000 (5000)
House of the Silent Magnifico 4100 (5100)
Ebonheart Chateau 12000 (15000)
Daggerfall Overlook 11000 (13800)
Serenity Falls Estate 10000 (12500)

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/5seg5x/furnished_houses_have_amazing_price/?st=iyu7rs78&sh=6d95b722

How do you purchase the furnished versions of the homes in the crown store? They only show the costs for the unfurnished versions.