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Why am I forced to start the game again to use the new Warden class?
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Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If you create an alt and max level it then why the heck would that be a problem? You reached max level by putting in the effort and that's that. Not like you got anything you didn't earn on that class yet
Because I clearly state I play ONLY ONE character. As many, I don't use alts and so the only way I have to play with the Warden is if I create an alt.
There are players that DON'T USE alts and so the option to change classes should be allowed, mostly, if a new class is introduced.0 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ZOS allows a lot of account-wide things, a lot, but if class change is allowed many think the world will reach its end. HOW PATHETIC!!!
If my main changes its class for some persons it's a BIG issue, but if I create an alt, play non-stop for 2 days and max level it, even getting its CPs free from my main, then that's not an issue. What's the difference?!
I can't believe people can be so pathetic in this life when giving their opinins only to confront an OP. Big illness that people that think are gods of game forums carry.
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✭Seems you have some issues dealing with the fact people are allow to disagree with your opinions. You can seek professional help with that, you know...
Im done with argueing about this stuff in circlesEdited by Valencer on February 3, 2017 3:11PM1 -
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An NPC ?Edited by Cadbury on February 3, 2017 3:11PM"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."3 -
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You obviously don't, otherwise, you wouldn't have said what you said on the first time. Yes, you have a long period of time to test EVERYTHING implemented before going live. You now know. Edited by Dragonnord on February 3, 2017 3:14PM0 -
Uriel_Nocturne✭✭✭✭✭
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Is this actually a real concern!? I thought this thread was one epic troll... O.oEveryone is "Wow! Warden! New class! OMG! So cool! Warden! Wow!"... ... ...
I only use one character and I do everything with him in the game, from PvE, to PvP, to try go get all achievements in the game, etc.
So, new content is coming, I have to pay for it if I want it, but I'm forced to put my current character aside and play all the game again if I want to use the Warden? Why? (I know Morrowind has a lot of stuff to do, but this thread points to the use of the new class only).
Why I can't have an option to use the Warden with the character I have now (class change)?
Why am I forced to start the game from scratch and repeat all I have been doing for +2 years if I want to play with the Warden?
Or, am I also forced to create a Warden character, don't do any PvE (well, forcedly some to level it up) and use it for PvP only?
Why this game forces people to have more than one character and so do all things over again?
How I see things; ZOS doesn't think nor cares for players that play just one character.
Class change please, even if with crowns.
I don't know what class your one and only character is, OP; so for the sake of argument, let's say you made a Templar.
So you're playing ESO, you've knocked out all of the original story and Cadwell's Silver and Gold. You're a minor God among Ants at this point.
Awesome for you. You get a Klondike bar.
But as you wander the wilds, you see someone using Skills and abilities that you cannot use yourself, and you think they're just cooler than sliced bread. You question this person as to what amazing Skills they're using, and you find out that they're a Sorcerer.
Now you want to play a Sorcerer.
Did you know that if you create a second character, as a Sorcerer, YOU STILL HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME FROM THE BEGINNING AS A NEW SORCERER!!!
Why should the Warden class be any different? If you want a Warden, create a new character, and just play the damn game. Why should you get to start a brand new character, that amazingly, has all the knowledge and experience gained by a completely separate character?
Even closer to your argument? Why should you be allowed to take an existing character, and switch their Class to the new Warden class, and immediately have access to top-level Warden Skills/Abilities? Where would your character get this amazing font of knowledge about a career path that has never existed in the game before?
I swear... Do you people even want to play the game!? The things people *** about and want handed to them with zero effort is inane and childish.
Download Morrowind. Create a new character. Play as a Warden.
If you want to keep it "new and fresh", START THAT CHARACTER IN MORROWIND, NOT THE BASE GAME!
Why is this so hard to grasp!?
/rant
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THBronx✭✭✭lol guys that dude isn't going to accept any answer that goes against his idea, pls stop feeding the troll!
I think he is indeed special!Edited by THBronx on February 3, 2017 3:15PMHadamanthys
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ChuckyPayne✭✭✭✭Yes. This is a big problem.
I know other big threads talk about account wide achievements pro/contra, but just I'm saying.
If achievement would be account-wide, then there wouldn't be force. Just play as you want with your character with which you want to.0 -
Emencie✭✭✭✭If you create an alt and max level it then why the heck would that be a problem? You reached max level by putting in the effort and that's that. Not like you got anything you didn't earn on that class yet
Because I clearly state I play ONLY ONE character. As many, I don't use alts and so the only way I have to play with the Warden is if I create an alt.
There are players that DON'T USE alts and so the option to change classes should be allowed, mostly, if a new class is introduced.
I don't understand...
The only way you could play any other character than your main, is to create another character.
If you don't want to have an alt, just delete your main after you create the new character.2 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
Is this actually a real concern!? I thought this thread was one epic troll... O.oEveryone is "Wow! Warden! New class! OMG! So cool! Warden! Wow!"... ... ...
I only use one character and I do everything with him in the game, from PvE, to PvP, to try go get all achievements in the game, etc.
So, new content is coming, I have to pay for it if I want it, but I'm forced to put my current character aside and play all the game again if I want to use the Warden? Why? (I know Morrowind has a lot of stuff to do, but this thread points to the use of the new class only).
Why I can't have an option to use the Warden with the character I have now (class change)?
Why am I forced to start the game from scratch and repeat all I have been doing for +2 years if I want to play with the Warden?
Or, am I also forced to create a Warden character, don't do any PvE (well, forcedly some to level it up) and use it for PvP only?
Why this game forces people to have more than one character and so do all things over again?
How I see things; ZOS doesn't think nor cares for players that play just one character.
Class change please, even if with crowns.
I don't know what class your one and only character is, OP; so for the sake of argument, let's say you made a Templar.
So you're playing ESO, you've knocked out all of the original story and Cadwell's Silver and Gold. You're a minor God among Ants at this point.
Awesome for you. You get a Klondike bar.
But as you wander the wilds, you see someone using Skills and abilities that you cannot use yourself, and you think they're just cooler than sliced bread. You question this person as to what amazing Skills they're using, and you find out that they're a Sorcerer.
Now you want to play a Sorcerer.
Did you know that if you create a second character, as a Sorcerer, YOU STILL HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME FROM THE BEGINNING AS A NEW SORCERER!!!
Why should the Warden class be any different? If you want a Warden, create a new character, and just play the damn game. Why should you get to start a brand new character, that amazingly, has all the knowledge and experience gained by a completely separate character?
Even closer to your argument? Why should you be allowed to take an existing character, and switch their Class to the new Warden class, and immediately have access to top-level Warden Skills/Abilities? Where would your character get this amazing font of knowledge about a career path that has never existed in the game before?
I swear... Do you people even want to play the game!? The things people *** about and want handed to them with zero effort is inane and childish.
Download Morrowind. Create a new character. Play as a Warden.
If you want to keep it "new and fresh", START THAT CHARACTER IN MORROWIND, NOT THE BASE GAME!
Why is this so hard to grasp!?
/rant
What part of "I play just one character and so would like change class like many other players" you didn't get?0 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
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Ok.
Is it Pretty Thong Soldiers?
Purple Tennis Shoes?
Paper Teal Socks?
Justin Bieber?
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✭✭✭✭✭"Why am I forced to start the game again to use the new Warden class?"
Well... you are not forced to play. But I can understand your point.
If warden was not scraped and available just like the other classes from the game launch date (and even if it was really bad and underperforming class) I would still pick it for my main character (purely out of play-style and RPG reasons). I always wanted druid / nature mage type of character.
My main character is NB and I have probably like 2 years (how many hours I don't know but certainly more than 2000 on this character). So I am not going to play the ENTIRE game once more (do all quests for all alliances, gather every skill point, skyshard, achivements etc. ). It just takes too much time. And I just don't have live long enough to create a second "MAIN" character.
But don't worry. In many mmos it is common practise to introduce new class. And class change token is probably only a matter of time. But I would not expect it come out any time soon (maybe like 2 years + ? Who knows). Look at it from different perspective... If warden will be OP and it will outperform other classes (specially in PvP) either it will be nerfed fast or other classes will receive a buff.
And I am planning to complete new Morrowind DLC / Expansion with my main character (that is not a warden).
Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on February 3, 2017 3:20PM0 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If you create an alt and max level it then why the heck would that be a problem? You reached max level by putting in the effort and that's that. Not like you got anything you didn't earn on that class yet
Because I clearly state I play ONLY ONE character. As many, I don't use alts and so the only way I have to play with the Warden is if I create an alt.
There are players that DON'T USE alts and so the option to change classes should be allowed, mostly, if a new class is introduced.
I don't understand...
The only way you could play any other character than your main, is to create another character.
If you don't want to have an alt, just delete your main after you create the new character.
And this is why I ask for class change option, as many other thousand and thousand of players want too.
Edited by Dragonnord on February 3, 2017 3:20PM0 -
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Ok.
Is it Pretty Thong Soldiers?
Purple Tennis Shoes?
Paper Teal Socks?
Justin Bieber?
-munchs on popcorn-
Nope, nope, nope, aaaaand... nope.
Sorry.0 -
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Ok.
Is it Pretty Thong Soldiers?
Purple Tennis Shoes?
Paper Teal Socks?
Justin Bieber?
-munchs on popcorn-
Nope, nope, nope, aaaaand... nope.
Sorry.
It's cool. I still love you, homie.
"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."0 -
Iliaz✭✭I think he might be the counterpart to Ohoni from GW2, it's the same incoherent logic (read as no logic used at all LOL!).
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Now the burden of proof is on you.If you create an alt and max level it then why the heck would that be a problem? You reached max level by putting in the effort and that's that. Not like you got anything you didn't earn on that class yet
Because I clearly state I play ONLY ONE character. As many, I don't use alts and so the only way I have to play with the Warden is if I create an alt.
There are players that DON'T USE alts and so the option to change classes should be allowed, mostly, if a new class is introduced.
I don't understand...
The only way you could play any other character than your main, is to create another character.
If you don't want to have an alt, just delete your main after you create the new character.
And this is why I ask for class change option, as many other thousand and thousand of players want too.
Source?
Because with the blow-back you're getting, this thread proves your statement to be a flat out lie.
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Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
Now the burden of proof is on you.If you create an alt and max level it then why the heck would that be a problem? You reached max level by putting in the effort and that's that. Not like you got anything you didn't earn on that class yet
Because I clearly state I play ONLY ONE character. As many, I don't use alts and so the only way I have to play with the Warden is if I create an alt.
There are players that DON'T USE alts and so the option to change classes should be allowed, mostly, if a new class is introduced.
I don't understand...
The only way you could play any other character than your main, is to create another character.
If you don't want to have an alt, just delete your main after you create the new character.
And this is why I ask for class change option, as many other thousand and thousand of players want too.
Source?
Because with the blow-back you're getting, this thread proves your statement to be a flat out lie.
I'm enjoying the blow back, so please don't worry about it. And I don't have to give you proof of anything, in any case, to ZOS. Thank you.0 -
marvel_bound✭✭Complaim complain complain theres nothing they can do to please you trolls everything they do gets negativity1
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✭✭✭✭marvel_bound wrote: »Complaim complain complain theres nothing they can do to please you trolls everything they do gets negativity
Yes, they can implement class change.
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but if class changes is added it really will be FOTM game and be boring.
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Emencie✭✭✭✭If you create an alt and max level it then why the heck would that be a problem? You reached max level by putting in the effort and that's that. Not like you got anything you didn't earn on that class yet
Because I clearly state I play ONLY ONE character. As many, I don't use alts and so the only way I have to play with the Warden is if I create an alt.
There are players that DON'T USE alts and so the option to change classes should be allowed, mostly, if a new class is introduced.
I don't understand...
The only way you could play any other character than your main, is to create another character.
If you don't want to have an alt, just delete your main after you create the new character.
And this is why I ask for class change option, as many other thousand and thousand of players want too.
But you haven't given a reason for a class change option.
If you want to play a warden, you can.
If you want to play a warden as your only character, you can.
I don't see your problem...0 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If you create an alt and max level it then why the heck would that be a problem? You reached max level by putting in the effort and that's that. Not like you got anything you didn't earn on that class yet
Because I clearly state I play ONLY ONE character. As many, I don't use alts and so the only way I have to play with the Warden is if I create an alt.
There are players that DON'T USE alts and so the option to change classes should be allowed, mostly, if a new class is introduced.
I don't understand...
The only way you could play any other character than your main, is to create another character.
If you don't want to have an alt, just delete your main after you create the new character.
And this is why I ask for class change option, as many other thousand and thousand of players want too.
But you haven't given a reason for a class change option.
If you want to play a warden, you can.
If you want to play a warden as your only character, you can.
I don't see your problem...
I have already. I said I'm one of the many players that have only one character and don't want to create another nor deleting the one I have and so lose everything I did over two years.
I just want to be able to change the class of my current and only character.0 -
Emencie✭✭✭✭If you create an alt and max level it then why the heck would that be a problem? You reached max level by putting in the effort and that's that. Not like you got anything you didn't earn on that class yet
Because I clearly state I play ONLY ONE character. As many, I don't use alts and so the only way I have to play with the Warden is if I create an alt.
There are players that DON'T USE alts and so the option to change classes should be allowed, mostly, if a new class is introduced.
I don't understand...
The only way you could play any other character than your main, is to create another character.
If you don't want to have an alt, just delete your main after you create the new character.
And this is why I ask for class change option, as many other thousand and thousand of players want too.
But you haven't given a reason for a class change option.
If you want to play a warden, you can.
If you want to play a warden as your only character, you can.
I don't see your problem...
I have already. I said I'm one of the many players that have only one character and don't want to create another nor deleting the one I have and so lose everything I did over two years.
I just want to be able to change the class of my current and only character.
Wait...
So you want to keep your current character, the gear, crafting, items, and unlocks you have achieved on that character.
But also have all the benefits of any other class, current or future, whenever you wish while never having to put in any effort to get those benefits?
I think I see your problem.1 -
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✭✭✭✭If you create an alt and max level it then why the heck would that be a problem? You reached max level by putting in the effort and that's that. Not like you got anything you didn't earn on that class yet
Because I clearly state I play ONLY ONE character. As many, I don't use alts and so the only way I have to play with the Warden is if I create an alt.
There are players that DON'T USE alts and so the option to change classes should be allowed, mostly, if a new class is introduced.
I don't understand...
The only way you could play any other character than your main, is to create another character.
If you don't want to have an alt, just delete your main after you create the new character.
And this is why I ask for class change option, as many other thousand and thousand of players want too.
But you haven't given a reason for a class change option.
If you want to play a warden, you can.
If you want to play a warden as your only character, you can.
I don't see your problem...
I have already. I said I'm one of the many players that have only one character and don't want to create another nor deleting the one I have and so lose everything I did over two years.
I just want to be able to change the class of my current and only character.
Wait...
So you want to keep your current character, the gear, crafting, items, and unlocks you have achieved on that character.
But also have all the benefits of any other class, current or future, whenever you wish while never having to put in any effort to get those benefits?
I think I see your problem.
Yes, as many other games do.
Hold! I didn't see you complaining when race change was finally allowed, or when CPs could be used account-wide without using any effort on the alts you crated, or when this other account-wide feature was implmented, or that other account-wide feature, or... Pwph!!!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The saddest thing is that the other threads that tried to discuss the same issue in a more civil manner didn't get as much attention as this one.
People just looking for a fight these days.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
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