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Why am I forced to start the game again to use the new Warden class?
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dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thealteregoroman wrote: »
When I bought my Renault Megane IV at the end of last year, there was no Megane IV RS. In 2018 there will be but I can't freely replace my car with it. :'(
You read my whole comment? I didn't say "freely", I even mentioned paying for it. Yes, same as you can pay to replace your car in your comment.
You and I know ESO WILL have a change class token................its just going to be SUPER expensive.........it's nice to talk about though so when it does happen its already out of their system.......like DLC NOW becoming chapters.........I just hope the class change tokens isn't like 10k crowns.....
Why would they? For the demographic that ESO aims for it's a better marketing strategy to get several players to make several smaller purchases overtime, than it is to get a few players to make large ones once. Giving players something to do to play more feeds into that. Class changes do not because it lets players shortcut too much play time, and too many potential convenience transactions like mount and storage upgrades.1 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭All I know is I have leveled 16 plus characters between PC and PS4 and could use some shortcut now for the next.
I don't put them all in my sig as it is too long.
As it is doing the quests are muscle memory by now. lolEdited by TequilaFire on February 2, 2017 6:24PM0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭For people attributing wanting class change exclusivelly to laziness (too many comments to quote), there is stuff you can't get in the game anymore (or at least until the end of the year, if ZOS repeats every event exactly like they were last year), which are the festival-exclusive stuff like titles and Crown motifs.
And before someone says "but of course you can get them this year!", we don't know that. It wouldn't be the first time I see a MMO adding different stuff each year for their festivals and locking the old festival stuff away from players forever.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.1 -
Akrasjel✭✭✭✭It's always ones decision to do something or not[PC][EU][Daggerfall Covenant]
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Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thealteregoroman wrote: »
When I bought my Renault Megane IV at the end of last year, there was no Megane IV RS. In 2018 there will be but I can't freely replace my car with it. :'(
You read my whole comment? I didn't say "freely", I even mentioned paying for it. Yes, same as you can pay to replace your car in your comment.
You and I know ESO WILL have a change class token................its just going to be SUPER expensive.........it's nice to talk about though so when it does happen its already out of their system.......like DLC NOW becoming chapters.........I just hope the class change tokens isn't like 10k crowns.....
Why would they? For the demographic that ESO aims for it's a better marketing strategy to get several players to make several smaller purchases overtime, than it is to get a few players to make large ones once. Giving players something to do to play more feeds into that. Class changes do not because it lets players shortcut too much play time, and too many potential convenience transactions like mount and storage upgrades.
And yet they introduced race change, so people don't have to reroll their Argonian into a Redguard. Doesn't really add up?Edited by Faulgor on February 2, 2017 6:29PMAlandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.2 -
Caff32✭✭✭✭Just use the character class change tokens that they have right now. I use them to switch between being a nightblade and a sorcerer all the time. They're under the utility tab next to the change alliance tokens.0 -
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✭For people attributing wanting class change exclusivelly to laziness (too many comments to quote), there is stuff you can't get in the game anymore (or at least until the end of the year, if ZOS repeats every event exactly like they were last year), which are the festival-exclusive stuff like titles and Crown motifs.
And before someone says "but of course you can get them this year!", we don't know that. It wouldn't be the first time I see a MMO adding different stuff each year for their festivals and locking the old festival stuff away from players forever.
But why do you need EVERYTHING on EVERY character? Why do you need exclusive motifs on every character? Why not just learn them on your crafter and be done with it?Edited by strikeback1247 on February 2, 2017 6:41PMP.A.W.S. - Positively Against Wild Sasquatches - NO TO BIGFOOT!1 -
Gandrhulf_Harbard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And yet they introduced race change, so people don't have to reroll their Argonian into a Redguard. Doesn't really add up?
Precisely.
There are some cats that once let out of the bag really can't be put back in - improved convenience is a prime example.
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✭✭✭✭✭It is not THAT big a deal to level an alt. I recently got one to level 50 in The Wailing Prison, and that is probably one of the worst areas to level an alt."Get off my lawn!"1 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭strikeback1247 wrote: »For people attributing wanting class change exclusivelly to laziness (too many comments to quote), there is stuff you can't get in the game anymore (or at least until the end of the year, if ZOS repeats every event exactly like they were last year), which are the festival-exclusive stuff like titles and Crown motifs.
And before someone says "but of course you can get them this year!", we don't know that. It wouldn't be the first time I see a MMO adding different stuff each year for their festivals and locking the old festival stuff away from players forever.
But why do you newd EVERYTHING on EVERY character? Why do you need exclusive motifs on every character? Why not just learn them on your crafter and be done with it?
Never said you needed everything on every character.
But what if the character you want to be a Warden is the only one that has these things?
My Cryomancer, who should be a Warden and who I will reroll, is the only one that did all of the achievements and got the title on last festival.
My Master Crafter, who I am not rerolling because she is my Master Crafter, is the other character I wanted to be a Warden.
Also, what about the people who have everything on only one character and do not play alts at all? The ones who did everything on that one character over the last three years, but would have made that one character a Warden to begin with if it was an option?Edited by Abeille on February 2, 2017 6:38PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.1 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thealteregoroman wrote: »
When I bought my Renault Megane IV at the end of last year, there was no Megane IV RS. In 2018 there will be but I can't freely replace my car with it. :'(
You read my whole comment? I didn't say "freely", I even mentioned paying for it. Yes, same as you can pay to replace your car in your comment.
You and I know ESO WILL have a change class token................its just going to be SUPER expensive.........it's nice to talk about though so when it does happen its already out of their system.......like DLC NOW becoming chapters.........I just hope the class change tokens isn't like 10k crowns.....
Why would they? For the demographic that ESO aims for it's a better marketing strategy to get several players to make several smaller purchases overtime, than it is to get a few players to make large ones once. Giving players something to do to play more feeds into that. Class changes do not because it lets players shortcut too much play time, and too many potential convenience transactions like mount and storage upgrades.
And yet they introduced race change, so people don't have to reroll their Argonian into a Redguard. Doesn't really add up?
Yes they did, and it feeds into players buying cosmetics that are locked to race and/or gender. As well as buying packs to unlock races of different Alliances. Race change opens up more revenue possibilities on a continuum as more cosmetic items are added to the crown store. Class changes don't.
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✭I am wondering if we will get a new class with every new "chapter" released.
I have six characters, and during number 2 the repletion of getting skyshards, lore books, and doing the quests for the main story, faction and guild got very boring very quickly. So I started only getting skyshards, lorebooks, only joined joined fighters / mage guild, completed all world bosses / dolmens, did some dungeons and delves that gave skill points and that was also a grind. Craft leveling (to be able to harvest lvl 50 nodes) and Riding skills, is something I am still working on for 3 charters
Thank the Divines I did not have to level each character to CP160
IMHO once you get to lvl 50 each new character you make should be lvl 50, with starting lvl 1 skill points, at least you would not have to change gear every day as you level, and drops would be usable for more than a day or two.
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✭✭✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Since they demand a lot of crowns for a simple cosmetical change you can be sure a class change token will be expensive. Laziness has it's price.
This^
and I've seen the time limit option thrown in as well, which I think would be needed. But I'd go so far as to say the only way I'd be fine with this being added was if it was a one time possibility too, one change per character and that is it.
Limit FOTM swings as much as possible.
Everyone loves to say it's win/win for everyone and those who don't want it don't have to use it (hey you don't HAVE to play the new class either) but there is a dark downside to it in terms of balancing.
In any case, currently, I do not believe class change possibilities are within the direction and vision ZOS has for this game.
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Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭What does it really matter if you have an archievement on your alt or not? Besides the titles nobody sees them! And if it's that important to you to let the people know you beat vSO, vMA or whatever, than that accomplishment should be done with exact that character.
Also, what does it matter what my crafting-only character has for a class?1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Everyone is "Wow! Warden! New class! OMG! So cool! Warden! Wow!"... ... ...
I only use one character and I do everything with him in the game, from PvE, to PvP, to try go get all achievements in the game, etc.
So, new content is coming, I have to pay for it if I want it, but I'm forced to put my current character aside and play all the game again if I want to use the Warden? Why? (I know Morrowind has a lot of stuff to do, but this thread points to the use of the new class only).
Why I can't have an option to use the Warden with the character I have now (class change)?
Why am I forced to start the game from scratch and repeat all I have been doing for +2 years if I want to play with the Warden?
Or, am I also forced to create a Warden character, don't do any PvE (well, forcedly some to level it up) and use it for PvP only?
Why this game forces people to have more than one character and so do all things over again?
How I see things; ZOS doesn't think nor cares for players that play just one character.
Class change please, even if with crowns.
Everybody things the warded is the second coming based on one short video and some vague information about skill lines.
Now, you may not have been the one asking for a new class, but lots of players have asked for it for a long time.
Now you are here complaining that there is no class change, even though you don't know that you'll even like playing the Warden at all.
If ZOS ever introduces a class change token, I can predict that there will be dozens of threads complaining about it every time they make a change to a class skill. It will be "ZOS is doing this so we all have to change classes!!!"
Will you be here to say that you were one of the people asking for this? No. You won't.
I personally don't care if they have it, but it should be expensive and the class skill lines should reset (and the game should forget your previous skill lines, should you ever consider changing back).
Alternatively, if it were permitted -which I hope it won't be - it should be one class change per character only.0 -
Why would you want to replace your only character with one of a different class that you know nothing about? Part of the fun of playing a new class is learning how to play it, and finding ability combos and gear sets that work for it. It would be exactly the same as just making a new character, but with none of the experimentation. The idea of a class change token sounds nice to some people, but to me, it just cuts out the easiest and most fun step of what it aims to accomplish - the actual leveling and learning associated with playing a new class. But let's say you change your class - suddenly you have 300+ unassigned skill points and hundreds of new skills (that you have never used before) to choose from. You won't know what you're doing, you'll probably play less effectively than you would with the class that you've spent 2+ years playing, and you'll probably be frustrated. It would be overwhelming. Plus, now you have to gear yourself. All of those sets you used to be effective with your specific class choice may now be obsolete. So you don't even save the time of gearing up, because you still have to find gear sets that work well with the Warden. If it were me, (and as a collector's edition pre-orderer, it is me) I'd just make a new character.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »
OK ok then we'll if it is all irrelevant and has no effect, then why don't we all run hybrid, argonIan, nb through some trials.
That shouldn't have any impact on compete img the trial right?
This isn't about optimal builds, which is a separate issue entirely.
All The BestY'all are kidding yourselves if you don't think ZOS will add a "class change to Warden" token in the Crown Store for like 6,000 Crowns when the expansion hits. lol
Make more money by making you start from lvl 1. More money from mount upgrade, xp scrolls, etc.
Not forgetting the extra character slot many will buy in order to start another character.2 -
Dr_Resilient✭✭✭Why cry about it? Buy Morrowind and continue playing with your Templar. Problem solved. And if you don't want Morrowind, don't buy it. Problem solved.
Why make threads like this?1 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »What does it really matter if you have an archievement on your alt or not? Besides the titles nobody sees them! And if it's that important to you to let the people know you beat vSO, vMA or whatever, than that accomplishment should be done with exact that character.
Also, what does it matter what my crafting-only character has for a class?
Your way of playing is obviously very different from mine. My Master Crafter is not *only* a crafter, she is also a Tank, and a good one too. Her class matters because I play her. There are more than enough skill points in the game to allow for that, and I make use of that since I made her on the first ten minutes after release.
You say nobody sees the titles, but what you mean is that *you* do not see the titles. Titles for vSO and vMA can be earned again by a rerolled character, but festival achievements can not, and the Magnanimous title is the one that fits my Cryomancer the best.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.1 -
Thealteregoroman✭✭✭✭✭
✭FortheloveofKrist wrote: »Don't worry. Over the next few years, the world will teach you what it means to be "forced" to do something.
Strap in.
Don't worry. Maybe some day you will learn reading comprehension and so the general idea of a statement.
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Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Thealteregoroman wrote: »FortheloveofKrist wrote: »Don't worry. Over the next few years, the world will teach you what it means to be "forced" to do something.
Strap in.
Don't worry. Maybe some day you will learn reading comprehension and so the general idea of a statement.
OMG can we be friends?!
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Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »What does it really matter if you have an archievement on your alt or not? Besides the titles nobody sees them! And if it's that important to you to let the people know you beat vSO, vMA or whatever, than that accomplishment should be done with exact that character.
Also, what does it matter what my crafting-only character has for a class?
Your way of playing is obviously very different from mine. My Master Crafter is not *only* a crafter, she is also a Tank, and a good one too. Her class matters because I play her. There are more than enough skill points in the game to allow for that, and I make use of that since I made her on the first ten minutes after release.
You say nobody sees the titles, but what you mean is that *you* do not see the titles. Titles for vSO and vMA can be earned again by a rerolled character, but festival achievements can not, and the Magnanimous title is the one that fits my Cryomancer the best.
1. I said "crafting-only-character" - if you go out and tank with your crafter, that's another thing but not what I wrote about.
2. I didn't said "Nobody sees the titles". I said "BESIDES THE TITLES nobody sees them [them = the archievments - to point at the statement that one has aaaaall the archievements on one character]". And again, I focused on the popular titles for accomplishing hard content. Just because someone mastered a vet trial on his 2-years-in-the-making sorc doesn't mean he should have that title as well on his warden on the release day if he hasn't done *** with that class.
But as far as these festival titles go, maybe even if they won't be accessable in the future (we don't know yet if that is the case), that would be an inconveniences. You are right about that.1 -
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✭✭✭✭Dr_Resilient wrote: »Why cry about it? Buy Morrowind and continue playing with your Templar. Problem solved. And if you don't want Morrowind, don't buy it. Problem solved.
Why make threads like this?
Templar? And why then bothering responding to thread like this?0 -
Thealteregoroman✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thealteregoroman wrote: »
When I bought my Renault Megane IV at the end of last year, there was no Megane IV RS. In 2018 there will be but I can't freely replace my car with it. :'(
You read my whole comment? I didn't say "freely", I even mentioned paying for it. Yes, same as you can pay to replace your car in your comment.
You and I know ESO WILL have a change class token................its just going to be SUPER expensive.........it's nice to talk about though so when it does happen its already out of their system.......like DLC NOW becoming chapters.........I just hope the class change tokens isn't like 10k crowns.....
Why would they? For the demographic that ESO aims for it's a better marketing strategy to get several players to make several smaller purchases overtime, than it is to get a few players to make large ones once. Giving players something to do to play more feeds into that. Class changes do not because it lets players shortcut too much play time, and too many potential convenience transactions like mount and storage upgrades.
We don't have the numbers on our end............for all we know NO BODY could be buying upgrades for mount or storage........
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Thealteregoroman✭✭✭✭✭
✭TequilaFire wrote: »All I know is I have leveled 16 plus characters between PC and PS4 and could use some shortcut now for the next.
I don't put them all in my sig as it is too long.
As it is doing the quests are muscle memory by now. lol
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »What does it really matter if you have an archievement on your alt or not? Besides the titles nobody sees them! And if it's that important to you to let the people know you beat vSO, vMA or whatever, than that accomplishment should be done with exact that character.
Also, what does it matter what my crafting-only character has for a class?
Your way of playing is obviously very different from mine. My Master Crafter is not *only* a crafter, she is also a Tank, and a good one too. Her class matters because I play her. There are more than enough skill points in the game to allow for that, and I make use of that since I made her on the first ten minutes after release.
You say nobody sees the titles, but what you mean is that *you* do not see the titles. Titles for vSO and vMA can be earned again by a rerolled character, but festival achievements can not, and the Magnanimous title is the one that fits my Cryomancer the best.
1. I said "crafting-only-character" - if you go out and tank with your crafter, that's another thing but not what I wrote about.
2. I didn't said "Nobody sees the titles". I said "BESIDES THE TITLES nobody sees them [them = the archievments - to point at the statement that one has aaaaall the archievements on one character]". And again, I focused on the popular titles for accomplishing hard content. Just because someone mastered a vet trial on his 2-years-in-the-making sorc doesn't mean he should have that title as well on his warden on the release day if he hasn't done *** with that class.
But as far as these festival titles go, maybe even if they won't be accessable in the future (we don't know yet if that is the case), that would be an inconveniences. You are right about that.
And what I am saying is that not all crafting characters are crafting-only. For a person that wants to make their master crafter a Warden, rerolling is kind of a big deal. People have different play styles. What isn't a problem for person A can be a huge problem for person B.
I misread your statement about titles, yeah, but my issue with achievements is exclusively the titles and not the achievements anyway. My biggest issue is with the stuff that will be lost maybe forever if I reroll (the Crown Exclusive Grim Harlequin motif on my crafter, the Magnanimous title on my Cryomancer).Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.1 -
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✭Thealteregoroman wrote: »Thealteregoroman wrote: »
When I bought my Renault Megane IV at the end of last year, there was no Megane IV RS. In 2018 there will be but I can't freely replace my car with it. :'(
You read my whole comment? I didn't say "freely", I even mentioned paying for it. Yes, same as you can pay to replace your car in your comment.
You and I know ESO WILL have a change class token................its just going to be SUPER expensive.........it's nice to talk about though so when it does happen its already out of their system.......like DLC NOW becoming chapters.........I just hope the class change tokens isn't like 10k crowns.....
Why would they? For the demographic that ESO aims for it's a better marketing strategy to get several players to make several smaller purchases overtime, than it is to get a few players to make large ones once. Giving players something to do to play more feeds into that. Class changes do not because it lets players shortcut too much play time, and too many potential convenience transactions like mount and storage upgrades.
We don't have the numbers on our end............for all we know NO BODY could be buying upgrades for mount or storage........
guess we will see....
Then ZOS would have removed the options from the store. It's also an example of convenience based transactions, not the only ones.
You're free to use that methodology in order to keep hope alive while you wait. However financially speaking it does not make sense for ZOS to add a class change option.
Edit - The "what if nobody" type arguments are typically rather weak because they're easily refuted by finding some who did. For instance when ESO was released on PS4 I maxed the Speed and Stamina of my mount to make grinding in Cyrodiil for Caltrops easier.Edited by dday3six on February 2, 2017 7:21PM0 -
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✭✭Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Why would you want to replace your only character with one of a different class that you know nothing about?
Why would you not want to?
My point is different players want and enjoy different things.
Making the game appealing to more players brings in more revenue.
All The BestThose memories come back to haunt me, they haunt me like a curse.
Is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worse.1 -
Ioulaum✭✭Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »We should ALL care about what other games are doing if what they are doing is demonstrably better (as in improves the longevity and player retention of the game) than what is currently happening in ESO.
Happy players stick around.
Happy player spend money.
BOTH of these things are 100% essential to ESO's ongoing survival.
If YOU don't want a Class Transfer token fine, don't use one.
If YOU don't want to start a Warden midway through the leveling process fine, start at level 1.
But if offering those things a) makes players happy, b) keeps players playing, and c) generates income for ESO then that is a good thing for us ALL.
Only people who want the game to fail are against such things.
All The Best
Yeah, right.
The devs should cater to every single wish a player utters on the forum, because ... moneyz.
Always satisfy the nagging, bitching, vocal minority.
That's exactly what is wrong with MMOs.
There are probably thousands of players who don't even go on the forums, because they are able to enjoy a game as it is.
And you don't hear from them generally.
But you'll always hear the crybabies who spend more time complaining about the game than playing it.2
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