50% of people who bought the game dont play it anymore....

In the months to come we will be offered a chest to place in our homes that will be a crown store exclusive. That is why we wont have it now. Cash grab inc.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Bank and 12 characters maxed out.

Apparently I am one of the 3% of the playerbase that has done that. Seems a bit unbelievable that its that low.


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It depends how it's calculated. I also have 12 chars, with bank maxed out and inventory maxed out on 8 of them. For the remaining 4 characters, I cannot possibly max them out quicker than the daily horse riding lesson ingame for each of them. It's limited to 1 per 20 hours per char. Unless I spend crowns for it, which I obviously don't want to.

So in my eyes, they are all "maxed out" because I've done all I could do without spending RL money. But 4 of them are not yet at 200 bag space. So they're not actually maxed out.

Now how did ZOS make this statistic ? Per character ? Per account ? If it is per account, then I don't belong to those 3% - even though inventory space IS my highest priority in the game and I've done everything I could on ALL my characters.
If it is calculated per character, then 8 of my chars belong to those 3% and 4 of my chars don't...

The truth is, you cannot really make any use or interpretation of any statistics if you don't know in detail the data used and the methodology behind it.

Understood regarding the usefulnessof stats. Just was quoting what they said.

It is 6 months to upgrade a character's horse. I always do speed then stam then bag. I have been playing since beta. I made 8 characters early in the game and worked on their bag space a few characters at a time til they were done. When they allowed us 4 more slots, I bought them, made the characters right away, and sat them at the stables for 6 months and did not play them until the had max speed and stamina.

I made enough gold from questing to do 4-6 characters a day. I was very diligent about logging onto them to feed horses on the days l play which is 4-5 times a week in the summer and 5-7 days in the winter. I know that not everyone is that diligent though and a lot forget to do it.

I may have used crowns for the last bag upgrade from the vendor when they had a sale for 50% off but that's it.

Others did it much faster than me because of the multiple horses they could have upgrading early in the game. So it still seems really low to me.

i'm maxed out on 4 toons. rest are still in process.

Jeremy wrote: »

Stormahawk wrote: »

This is meant to gauge more to see if players have upgraded bag or inventory space at all. There was another poll that asked players total bag space but it was hard to gauge if that included alts, bank, and guild bank inventory. This poll should help clear up by making it a yes/no question.

ZOS said that 50% of players never upgraded bank or bag space and that is why there are no storage options with the housing update.

Edit: added link to ESO live


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Sounds like a very lame excuse to me.

If 50% of players never upgraded bank or bag space - then that is most likely because these characters are just storage alts created to make up for the lack of space their main character is experiencing. So if anything - that would only reinforce why extra storage should have been added to housing.

Players and characters are different, here I presume the word player is analogous with account.

It is highly reasonable to assume 50% of players never upgraded if you consider the amount of people who have played a few days and left, as you would find in any game, anywhere.

AlnilamE wrote: »

7 characters at 200 slots
1 character at default because she's my Iron Vestige

That does it. We need a pack merchant assistant for 5000 crowns so that those of us with permanent residents of the Wailing Prison can upgrade our inventory

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Where it the world did you come up with the stat that 50% of people haven't upgraded their bags or bank? That doesn't even seem possible.

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Bouldercleave wrote: »

Exactly - and thank you for proving my point.

You shouldn't take their information at any greater face value than mine, or Stevil's moon comment. They are unwilling to divulge their data source, I am unable to collect enough data points beyone my small subset, and Stevil - well, is Stevil...

No, its entirely different, they have access to the information where as you don't.

Their data source is from ingame account statistics stored as data. They don't need to physically show you a screen shot of the data, I guess you would just call it a forgery anyway.

its just as dumb as saying about someone who wins an election, that cant happen as me and all my fiends voted for the opposition.

You and your friends are nothing but a grouping of amoebae floating in the greater cellular soup of the world.

SquareSausage wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Exactly - and thank you for proving my point.

You shouldn't take their information at any greater face value than mine, or Stevil's moon comment. They are unwilling to divulge their data source, I am unable to collect enough data points beyone my small subset, and Stevil - well, is Stevil...

No, its entirely different, they have access to the information where as you don't.

Their data source is from ingame account statistics stored as data. They don't need to physically show you a screen shot of the data, I guess you would just call it a forgery anyway.

its just as dumb as saying about someone who wins an election, that cant happen as me and all my fiends voted for the opposition.

You and your friends are nothing but a grouping of amoebae floating in the greater cellular soup of the world.

Actually i seem to recall one day ZoS did show a screen cap of a "types of armor used" netric of active play in cyrodil with a second one for above a cert Cp (iirc) and it was like 17 nano-jiffies before someone claimed it had to be false faked or forged.

One of the more lopsided polls I've seen

Where did ZOS's 50% come from?

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

The more relevant number is the 97% of us who have never upgraded storage all the way to max.

This means for 97% of players, there is still more storage space we can buy with in-game gold or crowns. I suppose only 3% of players would be the primary prospects for buying that extra space beyond what is available from upgrading bank and backpack.

Not necessarily. For some it would be more about organizing than raw space. Unless they are muels, coming home from a multi-dungeon run, or stockpiling sets for different situations, most of my characters don't fill more than 30 slots. I only need around a hundred more free for loot runs, so other than the above, it's not worth the gold right now to max bags on every character.

My bank, however, is maxed. It's easier to get items out of a bank than logging in and out of muel characters. Even better would be small containers in a house. Here go monster sets, here go stamina sets, there go tank sets, here are healer sets, and over there the other magicka sets.

On the subject of players not upgrading. Maybe some of them don't really know. The Daggerfall bag merch is right outside the bank, but the Davon's Watch one is tucked away in a corner, and the Vulkaguard one is in a random building. I'm sure there are a large number of casual, actually casual, who log in on the weekend, play the actual quests, and don't research build advice. I've seen players on reddit surprised wayshrines are free to use at the wayshrine. And I still correct people in chat in Stonefalls that you can get to Skyrim without beating the fort.

To each their own, but should one of these players manage to own a home, I bet they wouldn't mind a drawer to stuff with keepsakes from quests like many do from the other Elder Scrolls games.

My bank is maxed and all of my characters have maxed bags. I would buy more if I could, especially since even more materials and items are going to be introduced shortly.

Sinolai wrote: »

Both maxed on 4 characters.
I am also out of room on all 4 of them.

thats 240 bank and 200 each in chars.for 1040

had you stopped the chars at 190 each and taken that money... you would have lost 40 character inventory slots

created four more alt
spend 8k each to raise their bags to 90 each

adds 360 - 40 = 320 for a lot less gold

you can then run your four chars a lot easier with more free space in bank and char.

if one is paying for the higher end storage increases and isn't using all 8 alts - one has very different priorities than 1 do.