Sanct16 wrote: »

Maybe the easiest and fairest solution would be for everyone to use double mundus. There wouldnt be any issue then.

May 2017 thread: "Triple mundus exploit, holy cow how many is doing it"

There are ppl with triple mundus too, I just havent seen it personally. But there are reports of it.

AyeshaBelladonna wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

It is actually fun how "elite" pvpers claim they use it coz it grant "small advantage".
Imagine if entire vMoL raid wearing 5 Moondancer+5 Mother Sorrow just decided "hell, why not to get small advantage" and on top of those sets start wear 5 TBS.

Who says they're aren't? Only ones who would know are the 12 inside the group.

You can't hide your mundus stones (although next patch Zeni are changing that). I know Hodor are refusing to use TBS at all because of the likelyhood that idiots will claim they're cheating. They've all swapped their 5 TBS for BSW/MS etc. and all it takes is for whoever is vidding to just take a look at each person with a buff tracker on and you'll see 1 mundus.

As for the # of people with the skin? I believe that is the result of the other bug where you can exploit Rakkhat specifcally. Something to do with HA's (what I've heard, the video got took down by Zos very quickly). Double mundus doesn't make people be able to do vMoL easily lol.

in PvE it is actually pretty easy to spot wheter one exploits or does use TBS. Just check HP. TBS has a HP bonus, most other sets do not. 2x Mundus and lower HP then you should have? > exploit > goodbye ***

What do you consider low? i run TBS and i have like 13 or 14k health unbuffed. TBS does not mean high health, its to compensate for us dps for putting all our points in mag or stam so we can run a buff setting us about 17-19k in pve.
So thats really not a good measure.

high = anything above the absolutely minimum with 5/1/1 undaunted bonus and blue food. the ONLY viable reason to have increased HP for end-game PvE dps is actually using TBS

Competitive PvE was finally getting to the point where you didn't have to wonder what shady stuff people were doing. So much for that. Funny that a massive spike of the population has started clearing vMoL HM in the past couple weeks...

Folks, you're not going to be able to really deal with some of the individuals here. It's been reported here so hopefully ZOS will give it attention, but the underlying problem with cheaters and exploiters will remain since we don't permanently ban some of these individuals.

I suggest to try a social experiment, tweet at ".@TESONLINE #ESOCheater " with a screenshot or youtube link. Those of us that would like to know can search the feed and reply.

Alternatively you can post on reddit, but that is still moderated and not easy to search for names or exploits.

What you do with this information after is up to you of course. Ban them from your guild, hunt them down, add them to a block list, or examine the evidence and see if they are valid

Is it only two stones ? the last time this bug was exploited you could manipulate your armor and have all the stones, I hope it is not that bad again and if it is zos needs to jump on this..LOL I make funny zos doing anything fast /sigh

But how does this exploit work exactly?

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

Competitive PvE was finally getting to the point where you didn't have to wonder what shady stuff people were doing. So much for that. Funny that a massive spike of the population has started clearing vMoL HM in the past couple weeks...

What kind of 'shady stuff' have you wondered people could be doing? Can you please elaborate?

StackonClown wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

UI
Addons

• Effects that last longer than 30 seconds now follow the same rules as effects that last less than 30 seconds: they are only available to player-made addons if they are cast by the player or cast on the player.

Anyone have any idea why ZOS would make this change?
Isn't this feature the very kind of thing that can help players to potentially detect some exploit and report it?

There is no exploit as long as you cant see no exploit. That`s the idea.

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

StackonClown wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

UI
Addons

• Effects that last longer than 30 seconds now follow the same rules as effects that last less than 30 seconds: they are only available to player-made addons if they are cast by the player or cast on the player.

Anyone have any idea why ZOS would make this change?
Isn't this feature the very kind of thing that can help players to potentially detect some exploit and report it?

There is no exploit as long as you cant see no exploit. That`s the idea.

This seems strange tbh... Is there not a more detailed explanation of the reasoning for the change? - maybe thoughts from someone out there as to the reasoning? -

I think we should petition ZOS to *leave* that feature alone!

Alcast said they started banning people for this exploit here .

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3721221#Comment_3721221

I don't know where he got his Intel though .

Just remove/change the TBS set.... problem solved.

olsborg wrote: »

Yuke wrote: »

Dont worry with the next update you cant read mundus stones out anymore so you dont get mad anymore. #ZoSLogicBugFix

Yea I was just thinking about that, I read it in the potes. Really, really hope they fix that beforehand, (they wont) so I can keep pissing on everyone i find out are doing it. So many decent pvpers too, respect for them just went poof. Shame.

This:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

UI
Addons

• Effects that last longer than 30 seconds now follow the same rules as effects that last less than 30 seconds: they are only available to player-made addons if they are cast by the player or cast on the player.

PvP is literally crawling with this kind of play, good thing this is all you have seen thus far....just wait till you come across a 'boosting party' somewhere. Turn it in and players are back over and over and over and just keep at it. With Zeni making multi faction homes on same server its pretty clear they are actively moving to destroy PvP as a thing entirely, coupled with failure of unimaginable proportions to deal with exploiters and outright cheats its basically telling us if we bought the game for PvP, they won't even pretend anymore that PvP is actually in the game. Plausible deniability.

Has anyone recently reported this in-game with a ticket to Zeni with screenshots etc?
And what was the response from Zeni ??