Piercing Mark in PVP

pcar944 · January 2017

just so we clear - because I am constantly called BAD for using it - you guys DO know what the skill does right? I don't care about your gankblade - you play as one you know whats coming, but you do know the 2nd half of the skill card?

NightbladeMechanics · January 2017

What's a skill card?

LeifErickson · January 2017

If you look at piercing mark and cloak and compare their costs, durations, ranges, vitality to the class, etc. piercing mark is overpowered. If you compare it to something like magelight or flare, it is too strong.

zyk · January 2017

pcar944 wrote: »

just so we clear - because I am constantly called BAD for using it - you guys DO know what the skill does right? I don't care about your gankblade - you play as one you know whats coming, but you do know the 2nd half of the skill card?

I think you're probably taking the rage of toxic players too seriously. I am pretty sure I've received rage tells about almost every ability I've ever used.

ESO PVP isn't very competitive. It's the least competitive PVP game I've played. There are a lot of average players with big attitudes because they've found success in a backwater PVP game full of casuals and older gamers. When some of these players lose, they look everywhere but a mirror for explanations.

pcar944 · January 2017

being constantly called bad because I am using a class skill on a magblade in all light armor ... gets annoying

especially coming from proc-set running gankblades and heavy armor users - when they fail

asneakybanana · January 2017

pcar944 wrote: »

being constantly called bad because I am using a class skill on a magblade in all light armor ... gets annoying

especially coming from proc-set running gankblades and heavy armor users - when they fail

dude just use destro ult when they try to gank you. then you really get to taste the saltiness of their tears xD

caeliusstarbreaker · January 2017

I get marked as a stamina Templar... I still don't get it.

Juhasow · January 2017

LeifErickson wrote: »

If you look at piercing mark and cloak and compare their costs, durations, ranges, vitality to the class, etc. piercing mark is overpowered. If you compare it to something like magelight or flare, it is too strong.

I woudlnt say piercing mark is too stong. Comparing it to Flare or magelight is like comparing AoE to singe target. There is still something in this game like purge.

alext89 · January 2017

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

I get marked as a stamina Templar... I still don't get it.

Im pretty sure he is refering to major fracture. Its a good skill for more Damage.

KisoValley · January 2017

asneakybanana wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

being constantly called bad because I am using a class skill on a magblade in all light armor ... gets annoying

especially coming from proc-set running gankblades and heavy armor users - when they fail

dude just use destro ult when they try to gank you. then you really get to taste the saltiness of their tears xD

Destro ulting as someone is about to gank and receiving the hate /w is great.

DannyLV702 · January 2017

I used to run it because I got so sick and tired of people trying to runaway after failed ganks. Now I just use something else and let them run if they want. I'll take that as a win either way.

The_Duke · January 2017

Its also a strong heal. Ive beem messing around with reapers mark when I run solo. Mark them just before execute for the 25% increased damage and heal. Works good in 1v X situations.

Luthid · January 2017

I love when a NB marks me, it's an early warning to buff and block.

Gilvoth · January 2017

LeifErickson wrote: »

If you look at piercing mark and cloak and compare their costs, durations, ranges, vitality to the class, etc. piercing mark is overpowered. If you compare it to something like magelight or flare, it is too strong.

the quote here is actually saying that piercing mark is "overpowered" ??
WOW ...
ok well, here again we see another nerf" request thread against nightblades ?

Gilvoth · January 2017

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

If you look at piercing mark and cloak and compare their costs, durations, ranges, vitality to the class, etc. piercing mark is overpowered. If you compare it to something like magelight or flare, it is too strong.

the quote here is actually saying that piercing mark is "overpowered" ??
WOW ...
ok well, here again we see another nerf" request thread against nightblades ?

oh, and cloak too, he also wants "cloak" to be nerfed as well.

Knootewoot · January 2017

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

If you look at piercing mark and cloak and compare their costs, durations, ranges, vitality to the class, etc. piercing mark is overpowered. If you compare it to something like magelight or flare, it is too strong.

the quote here is actually saying that piercing mark is "overpowered" ??
WOW ...
ok well, here again we see another nerf" request thread against nightblades ?

oh, and cloak too, he also wants "cloak" to be nerfed as well.

Guess it's almost time to retire my magblade entirely lol.

WTB ranger class.

zuto40 · January 2017

Knootewoot wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

If you look at piercing mark and cloak and compare their costs, durations, ranges, vitality to the class, etc. piercing mark is overpowered. If you compare it to something like magelight or flare, it is too strong.

the quote here is actually saying that piercing mark is "overpowered" ??
WOW ...
ok well, here again we see another nerf" request thread against nightblades ?

oh, and cloak too, he also wants "cloak" to be nerfed as well.

Guess it's almost time to retire my magblade entirely lol.

WTB ranger class.

WTB balanced nightblades #buffmeb*tch

pcar944 · January 2017

alext89 wrote: »

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

I get marked as a stamina Templar... I still don't get it.

Im pretty sure he is refering to major fracture. Its a good skill for more Damage.

exactly

heal is nice but its not my major source of heal, damage boos is nice but its a little short

the sets I am wearing - using Mark is extremely benefitial

pcar944 · January 2017

Luthid wrote: »

I love when a NB marks me, it's an early warning to buff and block.

a few things - I don't use cloak on my Magblade, I almost never sneak, I hardly use Destro Ulti

I also don't hide and mark people from stealth

doing damage to someone and marking them after they take some damage is a great trick because most people don't realize that they got marked

Nutshotz · January 2017

Thing about piercing mark that proc tard stamblades hate the most is that they can't get back into stealth and 2-3 shot u with viper/vele or selene. So when they die they whisper us magblade and call us baddies for using mark. Um hello u have the skill to...

It's even funnier when they get rooted in my destro ult. I'm had the funniest rages from all 3 factions. If I wasn't at work I'd post the video

pcar944 · January 2017

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

Thing about piercing mark that proc tard stamblades hate the most is that they can't get back into stealth and 2-3 shot u with viper/vele or selene. So when they die they whisper us magblade and call us baddies for using mark. Um hello u have the skill to...

It's even funnier when they get rooted in my destro ult. I'm had the funniest rages from all 3 factions. If I wasn't at work I'd post the video

please do lol

josh.lackey_ESO · January 2017

LeifErickson wrote: »

If you look at piercing mark and cloak and compare their costs, durations, ranges, vitality to the class, etc. piercing mark is overpowered. If you compare it to something like magelight or flare, it is too strong.

I think it shows that magelight/flare/expert hunter are severely underpowered. A 3 second expose is a total joke. They should all last 30 seconds. I would actually prefer magelight go back to being a toggle, and only expose people while they are within the radius. But flare should be a lot more powerful than it currently is, considering it has no utility outside of countering nightblades, and it costs a ton.

I don't think it's okay to dump massive damage on someone unsuspecting, then be able to just dip out. You should be able to use cloak to pick your battles, that's a class advantage. You should be able to get away with a combination of skill and luck, but not when someone is wasting a bar slot to have a specific counter to that tactic.

olsborg · January 2017

I dont use mark because its f cheese, and anyone using it is a traitor to their own class:):D

Seriously tho, Leif has a good point, the duration and cost on this thing is way outta line compared to other means of revealing ppl etc ..

arkansas_ESO · January 2017

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

If you look at piercing mark and cloak and compare their costs, durations, ranges, vitality to the class, etc. piercing mark is overpowered. If you compare it to something like magelight or flare, it is too strong.

I think it shows that magelight/flare/expert hunter are severely underpowered. A 3 second expose is a total joke. They should all last 30 seconds. I would actually prefer magelight go back to being a toggle, and only expose people while they are within the radius. But flare should be a lot more powerful than it currently is, considering it has no utility outside of countering nightblades, and it costs a ton.

I don't think it's okay to dump massive damage on someone unsuspecting, then be able to just dip out. You should be able to use cloak to pick your battles, that's a class advantage. You should be able to get away with a combination of skill and luck, but not when someone is wasting a bar slot to have a specific counter to that tactic.

Detect abilities aren't the only counter to NB, AOE (which every class has easy access to in some form) works very well also. There's also the seemingly endless number of single target abilities that shouldn't pull you out of cloak but do, and detect potions. Cloak really hasn't been a viable escape since the Thieves Guild patch.

pcar944 · January 2017

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

If you look at piercing mark and cloak and compare their costs, durations, ranges, vitality to the class, etc. piercing mark is overpowered. If you compare it to something like magelight or flare, it is too strong.

I think it shows that magelight/flare/expert hunter are severely underpowered. A 3 second expose is a total joke. They should all last 30 seconds. I would actually prefer magelight go back to being a toggle, and only expose people while they are within the radius. But flare should be a lot more powerful than it currently is, considering it has no utility outside of countering nightblades, and it costs a ton.

I don't think it's okay to dump massive damage on someone unsuspecting, then be able to just dip out. You should be able to use cloak to pick your battles, that's a class advantage. You should be able to get away with a combination of skill and luck, but not when someone is wasting a bar slot to have a specific counter to that tactic.

I don't play with addons so I almost never know who I'm fighting until its too late lol

SRASinister · January 2017

I ran mark on console one night after a guild of gankblades were staying in stealth all night. I took it off immediately because they all ran the support purge sadly. Mark is really effective against the heavy armor meta though.

LegacyDM · January 2017

pcar944 wrote: »

just so we clear - because I am constantly called BAD for using it - you guys DO know what the skill does right? I don't care about your gankblade - you play as one you know whats coming, but you do know the 2nd half of the skill card?

Strange. I've killed many top gank stam blades players using mark and I've killed bad ones. ive used this skill since launch and have never gotten a tell. Who did you *** off to warrant a forum post? Lol.

NightbladeMechanics · January 2017

asneakybanana wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

being constantly called bad because I am using a class skill on a magblade in all light armor ... gets annoying

especially coming from proc-set running gankblades and heavy armor users - when they fail

dude just use destro ult when they try to gank you. then you really get to taste the saltiness of their tears xD

What are you going to do when (if) they balance that skill?

pcar944 · January 2017

LegacyDM wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

just so we clear - because I am constantly called BAD for using it - you guys DO know what the skill does right? I don't care about your gankblade - you play as one you know whats coming, but you do know the 2nd half of the skill card?

Strange. I've killed many top gank stam blades players using mark and I've killed bad ones. ive used this skill since launch and have never gotten a tell. Who did you *** off to warrant a forum post? Lol.

no naming/shaming on the forums

usually people LOL-off when they find out I'm a magblade in Light Armor

Nightenhowl · January 2017

If you can't survive without cloak then you deserve to be marked, besides there's a ****load of stam NBs in cyro that need to be exterminated.