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So if you buy the motif pages separately, you'll pay a total of 350 vouchers, compared to 300 if you buy the whole book.

Also, I'd rather have the new psijic recipe than an attunement table. At this rate, attunement tables will be selling for 3mil+ each (the current price of the cipher on PS4/NA).

Not too bad, only question is how many voucher to each master writ give out? It I can get at least one attunable station per ledgendary armor I craft, then we are in business.

Here's a thread with some pictures. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/203006/30k-refined-raw-materials-statistics

You'll see that the OP posted pictures of some consumable writs that rewarded only 2 vouchers. One of the woodworking writs required a legendary item and rewarded 10 writs.

However, one required ninrhoned, legendary, a dlc set, and glass style and rewarded 124 vouchers (though this seems to be an outlier of sorts, since most legendary writs only grant between 10-18 vouchers).

So it also said the vouchers that each writ gives out have been updated? Anyone done any of those yet? Without that info the prices are only good for comparison to other items in the store.

Wonder what this will do to the price of legendary materials...

I can also see a situation where most people skip the ones that require legendary materials and they just end up filling up guild stores.

my record..

Solinur wrote: »

my record..

Pretty easy one for me to craft, hope it comes up for me.

Of course then the question becomes would my first station be the one I use most, or the hardest one to get to?

From writs like this it looks like the rareness of the style plays a role (if the book is yellow or purple) but not the specific style. nirn+legendary are the most important factors. Last component is the number of traits you need to have researched. And all these factors are multiplicative...

If my theory is correct the one above should mark the maximum.

It looks evenly split.

BlazingDynamo wrote: »

Dev wrote: »

So in order to get a full crafting set (aka the 3 stations), it will cost 750 vouchers, which is any rng number for the reward, and even getting the master writ is based on rng...

Do you guys really think we have nothing better to spend our time on other then pointless grinds?
Why should we keep paying you just for the privilege of grinding against rng?
Do you really think we 'want' or would 'enjoy' doing 100+ writs for these items?


Seriously there is a difference between 'Spending time enjoying a game' versus just 'wasting time'.

Writs take no less than 5 mins a day to do. How is this grinding? Lol if Zos just said here take everything for nothing and enjoy, would anybody really enjoy this stuff? I think not, cause you didn't do anything to deserve it. It's a video game. With a purpose. Go play minecraft if you don't want to play a game with purpose.

Sure, 5 min a day IF: you have all the mats, including motifs and tempers available.. and you completely ignored the factor of days, as in how many it would actually take. And what if you wanted more then just one. You're also assuming that people want to have to do 'daily' content. This is not a job, i do not want to log in and have an hour or whatever 'chores' before i can get to what is shaping up to be a very unenjoyable update!

Also it might help to keep perspective: How much work, across how many days can these every truly be worth in a game where none of the crafted gear is BiS. Even TBS is situational, and only worth it in ideal trial setups. In most cases the 1T dropped sets will be better.

These are nothing more then a novelty, and a convenience at best. Treat it as it is, and not try to make it seem impressive. You will not be accomplishing anything special by having one or even all of these. Its a nice to have but only worth so much annoyance.


Make them difficult to get, and only the crafting elite will bother. I could care less as crafting is so pointless that if it took more then an hour to get one, i just wouldnt care. Since an hour is the amount of time it takes to do 12 trips to a named station, its just not worth it, and to be honest i would laugh at people for spending more time then that on it.

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Mx13 wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Ah so now I only have to waste 8 gold materials for 300 master writs in order to buy the Ebony motif. Oh, that's nothing!

/s

Stuff will probably come to the crown store also, just like that mythical ambrosia thing. Just make it so ridiculously tedious and grindy that everyone buys it with crowns. GG.

Unless they increased the amount of tokens you get per writ, but meh, I'm pretty sure it's still just 1.

For what i've seen on PTS writs that require legendary mats grants you more than one voucher:

IIRC someone mentioned one with a 200+ vouchers reward

legendary, nirn ones give over 200. So if you get that one, you get a nice amount.

Thanks for posting that info.

No offence, but that is absolutely ridiculous. I got a master crafting writ that gave me 9 vouchers, but I need 250 for 1 crafting station?

Zenimax, people are going to get peed off and leave the game if they cannot furnish their houses a bit easier than this. Seriously, this is what RPers have been wanting all along (and without any storage bonuses or xp resting bonuses, the only people you ARE appealing to is the the RPers really) - but the costs of furnishing are just all round too high. It should take a couple of weeks to furnish a place, not years and many hundreds of thousands of gold worth of mats.

It's simply too much, please reconsider who you are catering to here. At the moment, it seems blatant that you are just trying to milk the RP crowd to buy stuff for crowns.

Solinur wrote: »

I found that a set of master writs will grant you around 50 vouchers on average (though this is set off by those large writs. Most often the number will be lower. And sometimes much much higher. Pray to the almighty rngesus! )
You'll maybe need a few weeks to get all these things, but for most of it you can team up with your next master crafter and a few friends and give him your writs. Then he can craft those for you so you'll get these pretty fast.

But if someone else crafts them for you, the vouchers are not tradeable, and the items he/she gets from the voucher merchant are bound. So how is that supposed to work exactly?

You have to craft them yourself in order to get vouchers/goods.