Master Writ prices on PTS

SirCritical

Are the vouchers tradeble? I imagine some kind of "guild quest-system", I mean collecting them from various guildmembers to get a recipe or crafting station to our guildhall. And it could make a decent "guild-tax": e.g. everyone should give one voucher per week.

Are the master crafting writs repeatable on the same day, or if you completed one of them (e.g. which needs blacksmithing) you wont't get another on the same day (another blacksmithing writ) ?

SirCritical

Are the furniture items tradeable? Are those items, which were placed in your house once, tradeable when you got bored with it?

Wizball1987

Can ye trade the master writ?
Voucher ?
Items?

BlazingDynamo

Epona222 wrote: »

Thanks for posting that info.

No offence, but that is absolutely ridiculous. I got a master crafting writ that gave me 9 vouchers, but I need 250 for 1 crafting station?

Zenimax, people are going to get peed off and leave the game if they cannot furnish their houses a bit easier than this. Seriously, this is what RPers have been wanting all along (and without any storage bonuses or xp resting bonuses, the only people you ARE appealing to is the the RPers really) - but the costs of furnishing are just all round too high. It should take a couple of weeks to furnish a place, not years and many hundreds of thousands of gold worth of mats.

It's simply too much, please reconsider who you are catering to here. At the moment, it seems blatant that you are just trying to milk the RP crowd to buy stuff for crowns.

I really don't think they care about role players lol

Solinur

Wizball1987 wrote: »

Can ye trade the master writ?
Voucher ?
Items?

You can trade the writs, as long as you haven't activated them (they are then in your quest log)
Of course the crafted items are tradable too, so if you get a writ you don't know, you have the choice of either selling the writ or paying/asking a crafter to make it for you.
Skeletons and all other crafted furniture items are tradable.
Only crown store furniture items or those from the achievement vendors are not tradable. Not sure about the crafting stations but I believe they were tradable (but not the attuned ones). Not sure if this applies for those from the vendor though.

Tempah

Quick question.

What is the difference between the attunable and basic clothing/blacksmithing/woodworking stations?

SirCritical

At the attuned stations you can craft items from that set to which you've attuned the station.
Another question: can you attune stations to those sets, which you aren't allowed to craft? And if you can, after the attunement (or what I could say) can you craft items there from the set, which normally you can't?

DRXHarbinger

So everyone needs to get researching nirnhoned now. I never bothered with weapons except swords back when they were meta.

Solinur

SirCritical wrote: »

At the attuned stations you can craft items from that set to which you've attuned the station.
Another question: can you attune stations to those sets, which you aren't allowed to craft? And if you can, after the attunement (or what I could say) can you craft items there from the set, which normally you can't?

Not sure if you can attune them, but I'd guess you can. The crafting menu is the same as always so I would say you cannot craft sets that you don't have done enough research for. Since you can also visit someones house and there use their attuned crafting stations this would apply there as well.

Epona222 wrote: »

Thanks for posting that info.

No offence, but that is absolutely ridiculous. I got a master crafting writ that gave me 9 vouchers, but I need 250 for 1 crafting station?

Zenimax, people are going to get peed off and leave the game if they cannot furnish their houses a bit easier than this. Seriously, this is what RPers have been wanting all along (and without any storage bonuses or xp resting bonuses, the only people you ARE appealing to is the the RPers really) - but the costs of furnishing are just all round too high. It should take a couple of weeks to furnish a place, not years and many hundreds of thousands of gold worth of mats.

It's simply too much, please reconsider who you are catering to here. At the moment, it seems blatant that you are just trying to milk the RP crowd to buy stuff for crowns.

You don't need master writs to furnish your house. these are just for a few selected (and mostly decorative) items. Getting a set of normal crafting stations is not that hard and should be possible to do in a week

DUTCH_REAPER

We are all the little mouse who without question, is pecking at the food dispenser....

Beruge

This cant be serious? They cant expect us to use 180k for a master writ?
Master Crafters asked for a way to make it more profitable and give us more work, not rob us blind!

Are they secrectly increasing the gold tempers you get from refining something or from writs in general? or is this an attempt to just destroy this update completely....

Solinur

Beruge wrote: »

This cant be serious? They cant expect us to use 180k for a master writ?
Master Crafters asked for a way to make it more profitable and give us more work, not rob us blind!

Are they secrectly increasing the gold tempers you get from refining something or from writs in general? or is this an attempt to just destroy this update completely....

Once again you can furnish your house without master writs. Maybe do some cheap ones to get those crafting stations. It's not supposed to be that the average player get's it in a week or two. It's supposed to keep you occupied until the next DLC or beyond.

The much bigger problem is farming the neccessary material to craft furniture, because no one has them on stock yet. Apparently the materials drop in every 3rd node, which is not that often.

Jayne_Doe

Solinur wrote: »

Beruge wrote: »

This cant be serious? They cant expect us to use 180k for a master writ?
Master Crafters asked for a way to make it more profitable and give us more work, not rob us blind!

Are they secrectly increasing the gold tempers you get from refining something or from writs in general? or is this an attempt to just destroy this update completely....

Once again you can furnish your house without master writs. Maybe do some cheap ones to get those crafting stations. It's not supposed to be that the average player get's it in a week or two. It's supposed to keep you occupied until the next DLC or beyond.

The much bigger problem is farming the neccessary material to craft furniture, because no one has them on stock yet. Apparently the materials drop in every 3rd node, which is not that often.

True, but have you seen the list of craftable furnishings and how many mats those are going to require? It'll take some doing just to provide some basic furnishings for a home. Even those basic ones all require a number of green tempers and it goes up from there. Plus, the number of trait stones required for each piece of racial furniture, not to mention all the mats. Racial furnishings seem to all require wood, cloth, and ingots to varying degrees. The non-racial ones are the only ones that appear to just require one of the crafting skills, at least the cheaper ones.

So, yes, I tend to agree that these will all be doable, but they've put just enough difficulty/effort into them to try and push people to the Crown Store.

Also, while we did ask for master writs, we did not want writs that would use up our precious resources for some exclusive furnishings and a crafting motif. Rather, master writs should require more "skill" than the normal writs, but should reward us with more valuable crafting materials. Also, we didn't want furniture crafting to be the reward/incentive for creating a master crafter. We wanted things like changing traits/styles on existing gear. You know, things that are actually useful and give a real gameplay reason for all that time and effort. Not so we can outfit our homes in the same way that someone who just buys it from the Crown Store can (special crafting stations/furnishings aside).

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited about housing and will work toward furnishing my homes via crafting, but it just feels like this is the reward they're giving to us for all our time/effort, rather than things that would be more useful such as changing traits/styles of gear. Also, the crafted sets need a boost. They need to be on par with dropped sets. But, it seems this is what we got instead.

Our master crafters have been relegated to furnishing homes, rather than crafting competitive gear for our characters, guildmates, friends, and customers.

VampiricByNature

I don't have the focus to do writs. I pick up the quest and then....

SQUIRREL!

I'm always the last of my friends to get stuff done. I might have to reroll my character name to "The Squatter" or "Summer Renter" while I casually hang out in friends furnished homes.... and use their attuned stations and test dummies.

Betheny

Just think of all the money changing hands *starts drooling*

Junipus

So many people are insulting master crafters by demanding everything without a lot of work.

This is designed to reward those who've invested a ridiculous amount of time and gold into learning every motif, researching every trait and gathering as many materials as they've felt necessary. When they need to spend 200k on a Master writ which rewards them enough vouchers to buy a training skeleton or Ambrosia recipe then they reap the benefits by selling to those who haven't invested such a large amount.

Sure you might get lucky having only started paying attention to this *** since PTS dropped, but it doesn't mean you should be entitled to the same opportunities as those who've invested a *** more.

SirCritical

Remove those legendary component and everything will be fine

driosketch

SirCritical wrote: »

Remove those legendary component and everything will be fine

I would prefer they increase the voucher reward 10 fold for writs requireing gold. At least the reward would be closer to matching cost.