Bats returning to the OP ultimate spot?

Libonotus · January 2017

Thanks to the buff being added in homestead. "Players may teleport to another player with 22 metres to deal high damage. Players can use teleport repeatedly until the ultimate expires"

stealthyevil · January 2017

All we wanted was a fix to clouding swarm. Now all I see is a gimped teleport shade ultimate that DK can use to get from target to target. Way to *** over one of the most unique ultimates in the game.

Mako1132 · January 2017

Would have been way better if they just fixed it. Will need to see what the damage looks like because the description really doesn't tell you much.

IxSTALKERxI · January 2017

They really liked the idea of gap closer spam and decided to make it an ultimate.

JDar · January 2017

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

They really liked the idea of gap closer spam and decided to make it an ultimate.

I have been saying every chance I get that the ability to move yourself next to the thing your want to die is far too easy

Want something to die? Press 1 then 4,4,4,4,4,....

Movement in this game is too cheap! It's idiotic!

NightbladeMechanics · January 2017

High damage ambush spam for all classes? Bonus aoe damage included!

Can't wait to see raids all frog hopping at people.

We just wanted Clouding Swarm fixed...

KisoValley · January 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

High damage ambush spam for all classes? Bonus aoe damage included!

Can't wait to see raids all frog hopping at people.

We just wanted Clouding Swarm fixed...

The good raid will still use destro ult, seeing as it got a buff basically lol

Wollust · January 2017

It's a proof that Wrobel is one of those ambush spammers

thankyourat · January 2017

Wollust wrote: »

It's a proof that Wrobel is one of those ambush spammers

Lol I kind of always figured that

bebynnag · January 2017

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

They really liked the idea of gap closer spam and decided to make it an ultimate.

littrally LOL'd at this!

GreenSoup2HoT · January 2017

ALL WE ASKED FOR WAS A FIXED CLOUDING SWARM!! NOBODY WANTED THIS

GIVE US BACK THE CLOUDING WE LOVED, GIVE US BACK THE CLOUDINNG WE NEED :'(

OGLezard · January 2017

Maybe that set that deals bonus damage when you attack from behind the target will boost this ultimate to silly numbers. If you watch syphers video of how it works, you Teleport directly behind the target instantly and deal damage.

Could be a good combo, but now everyone has access to another teleport.........I miss the days when only us sorcs could do it lol

leepalmer95 · January 2017

The dmg on it isn't even that good.

Sypher checked it.

The teleport was doing 8.4k tooltip while his whip was doing 8.2k tooltip.

You do teleport behind someone so i suppose it's cool.

thankyourat · January 2017

leepalmer95 wrote: »

The dmg on it isn't even that good.

Sypher checked it.

The teleport was doing 8.4k tooltip while his whip was doing 8.2k tooltip.

You do teleport behind someone so i suppose it's cool.

Aren't the bats still doing AOE damage when you teleport?

kevlarto_ESO · January 2017

Libonotus wrote: »

Thanks to the buff being added in homestead. "Players may teleport to another player with 22 metres to deal high damage. Players can use teleport repeatedly until the ultimate expires"

Yea this will be exploited to the end of the world, all you have to do is watch certain groups in pvp if they migrate to it then it is op and once again zos has failed not thinking things through again /sigh

kyle.wilson · January 2017

eye of the storm on a gap closing spammer would still be better.

Soulac · January 2017

Old bats as nb:
1) use an aoe while having invis bats, making your attacks stronger because you're invis.
Or
2) spambush while invis bats

New bats as nb:
Same just without invis

I mean you could teleport before already and got a damage boost thanks to invis. Now you can teleport with bats but no invis.

*** this.

IxSTALKERxI · January 2017

I managed to sell my 2 sharpened stygian swords yesterday for 300k. Still have a sharpened destro to get rid of tho.

LegacyDM · January 2017

I tested on my duel wield nb. My spell power is slightly above 3200. My tool tip for single target damage was slightly over 10k and my bat dot was shy of 5k. The two work together. Factor in battle spirit before player reductions that's 7.5k a tick IF you can manage to get a teleport strike every second for 5 seconds. Utility of teleport is good but if you compare the damage to eots it's still far less.

susmitds · January 2017

LegacyDM wrote: »

I tested on my duel wield nb. My spell power is slightly above 3200. My tool tip for single target damage was slightly over 10k and my bat dot was shy of 5k. The two work together. Factor in battle spirit before player reductions that's 7.5k a tick IF you can manage to get a teleport strike every second for 5 seconds. Utility of teleport is good but if you compare the damage to eots it's still far less.

Exactly. Also Concealed Weapon tooltip is nearly same so why use it.

Bazeric · January 2017

Oops, forgot to check this on PTS...

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They be like-

Zos 1:"Huh, no one uses this morph, wonder why?"
Zos 2:"Heard it was broken"
Zos 1:"Oh, worked fine in the test"
Zos 2:"Well maybe we should change it so more people will use it"
Zos 1:"Good idea"

Rinse - repeat.

Malamar1229 · January 2017

leepalmer95 wrote: »

The dmg on it isn't even that good.

Sypher checked it.

The teleport was doing 8.4k tooltip while his whip was doing 8.2k tooltip.

You do teleport behind someone so i suppose it's cool.

AND that wasnt in a pvp environment right? so in cyro dmg is just laughable

THEDKEXPERIENCE · January 2017

Malamar1229 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

The dmg on it isn't even that good.

Sypher checked it.

The teleport was doing 8.4k tooltip while his whip was doing 8.2k tooltip.

You do teleport behind someone so i suppose it's cool.

AND that wasnt in a pvp environment right? so in cyro dmg is just laughable

In the words of Lee Corso ... not so fast my friend!

Just throwing it out there but when you break it down isn't much of the problem with PVP simply abilities that can be cast during other abilities?

Maybe it only does 4kish DPS in Cyrodiil but how would you like to have this going on while getting gap closed into a Jesus Beam?

Much like how it's not usually hurricane that's the issue with stam sorcs, but rather that they can wrecking blow spam you (or something similar) while getting the free DPS AOE damage from hurricane.

I do recall the last PTS people said the destro ult wasn't that powerful and we see how that worked out. I'd reserve judgement instead of basing it purely off 1 video Sypher made in 1 situation. He's a great player but there is no way he could have thought of even a fraction of all the ways to abuse this skill at this point. More people will "test" it on the live server within the first hour than the entire time it's on the PTS. At that point the true cheese will be revealed or lack thereof.

Draxys · January 2017

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

The dmg on it isn't even that good.

Sypher checked it.

The teleport was doing 8.4k tooltip while his whip was doing 8.2k tooltip.

You do teleport behind someone so i suppose it's cool.

AND that wasnt in a pvp environment right? so in cyro dmg is just laughable

Just throwing it out there but when you break it down isn't much of the problem with PVP simply abilities that can be cast during other abilities?

Uhhhh no?

And about the destro on last PTS, it was underpowered. That's why people complained about it. Then zos just double the dmg or something.

zyk · January 2017

ZOS could not fix the old Clouding Swarm because it wasn't broken. It was nerfed after years of complaints from players with poor situational awareness who don't know how to interpret the death recap.

This change, like most of the changes [hard]core gamers hate, is to make Cyrodiil more attractive to the ultra-casual audience that ZOS now primarily targets.

Enslaved · January 2017

I can see this being useful for some classes. But if the lag isnt fixed, it will be pretty clunky and not that great at all.
Someone should test it with that vampire set that add 400ish damage to vampire skills.

Mako1132 · January 2017

Main issue with this skill is teleporting behind the target. All they have to do is have their back against a wall, and suddenly you're in the wall. Maybe it was just a function of using it in a house, but this happened to Sypher when he tried to trap me in his drop pit at his house.

With that said I don't like the skill regardless of the damage it does. All you're going to get by increasing the damage is a gap closer that does a ton of damage. That's really the last thing we need in this game.

Derra · January 2017

Basically everyone in pvp is annoyed by gapcloser spam? Better go create a high dmg morph for an ultimate that encourages the user to spam a freaking gapcloser. That´s gonna help the situation.