Tri Focus Passive Pointless for flame & lightening

kaithuzar · January 2017

The change to tri focus destro passive states:
"Tri Focus:
This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack.
This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

The problem with this is that it's a destruction passive which goes from a passive affecting all destruction staff users to a passive that ONLY is useful for utilizing a frost staff.

I have no problem with what it changes with the exception that there needs to be subsequent affects for flame & lightening staves of some type.

The ancient knowledge passive was changed accordingly to include all stave types; why wasn't this done for tri-focus?

xblackroxe · January 2017

kaithuzar wrote: »

The change to tri focus destro passive states:
"Tri Focus:
This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack.
This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

The problem with this is that it's a destruction passive which goes from a passive affecting all destruction staff users to a passive that ONLY is useful for utilizing a frost staff.

I have no problem with what it changes with the exception that there needs to be subsequent affects for flame & lightening staves of some type.

The ancient knowledge passive was changed accordingly to include all stave types; why wasn't this done for tri-focus?

Have you even looked at the passive once?
Flamestaffs give you 8% on full heavy attacks
Lightningstaffs do 133% splashdamage to nearby enemies mkaing it a good aoe.

Alpheu5 · January 2017

It wouldn't really be Tri Focus if it only affected one staff type.

Foxic · January 2017

The frost staff was the only one mentioned because the other two stayed the same

kaithuzar · January 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

The change to tri focus destro passive states:
"Tri Focus:
This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack.
This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

The problem with this is that it's a destruction passive which goes from a passive affecting all destruction staff users to a passive that ONLY is useful for utilizing a frost staff.

I have no problem with what it changes with the exception that there needs to be subsequent affects for flame & lightening staves of some type.

The ancient knowledge passive was changed accordingly to include all stave types; why wasn't this done for tri-focus?

Have you even looked at the passive once?
Flamestaffs give you 8% on full heavy attacks
Lightningstaffs do 133% splashdamage to nearby enemies mkaing it a good aoe.

Have you even looked at the patch notes?
The passive you are describing is ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE, not Tri-Focus:

"Ancient Knowledge: This passive ability no longer decreases the cast time of your Destruction Staff Heavy Attacks by 5/10%. Instead, it grants you a bonus as long as you have one Destruction Staff ability slotted. This bonus depends on your staff type:
Flame Staves: Increases your single-target damage dealt by 4/8%.
Frost Staves: Increases the amount of damage you Block by 10/20%, and reduces the cost of Block by 15/30%.
Lightning Staves: Increases your Area of Effect damage dealt by 4/8%."

Dracane · January 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

The change to tri focus destro passive states:
"Tri Focus:
This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack.
This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

The problem with this is that it's a destruction passive which goes from a passive affecting all destruction staff users to a passive that ONLY is useful for utilizing a frost staff.

I have no problem with what it changes with the exception that there needs to be subsequent affects for flame & lightening staves of some type.

The ancient knowledge passive was changed accordingly to include all stave types; why wasn't this done for tri-focus?

Have you even looked at the passive once?
Flamestaffs give you 8% on full heavy attacks
Lightningstaffs do 133% splashdamage to nearby enemies mkaing it a good aoe.

Not exactly clear, if lightning staves really deal 133% splash damage. the tooltip changes with every update.
Now on pts, it's 104% and it changes daily

BlackMadara · January 2017

kaithuzar wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

The change to tri focus destro passive states:
"Tri Focus:
This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack.
This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

The problem with this is that it's a destruction passive which goes from a passive affecting all destruction staff users to a passive that ONLY is useful for utilizing a frost staff.

I have no problem with what it changes with the exception that there needs to be subsequent affects for flame & lightening staves of some type.

The ancient knowledge passive was changed accordingly to include all stave types; why wasn't this done for tri-focus?

Have you even looked at the passive once?
Flamestaffs give you 8% on full heavy attacks
Lightningstaffs do 133% splashdamage to nearby enemies mkaing it a good aoe.

Have you even looked at the patch notes?
The passive you are describing is ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE, not Tri-Focus:

"Ancient Knowledge: This passive ability no longer decreases the cast time of your Destruction Staff Heavy Attacks by 5/10%. Instead, it grants you a bonus as long as you have one Destruction Staff ability slotted. This bonus depends on your staff type:
Flame Staves: Increases your single-target damage dealt by 4/8%.
Frost Staves: Increases the amount of damage you Block by 10/20%, and reduces the cost of Block by 15/30%.
Lightning Staves: Increases your Area of Effect damage dealt by 4/8%."

No he is talking about tri focus. It does what he says. Ancient knowledge was changed as you quoted

xblackroxe · January 2017

kaithuzar wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

The change to tri focus destro passive states:
"Tri Focus:
This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack.
This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

The problem with this is that it's a destruction passive which goes from a passive affecting all destruction staff users to a passive that ONLY is useful for utilizing a frost staff.

I have no problem with what it changes with the exception that there needs to be subsequent affects for flame & lightening staves of some type.

The ancient knowledge passive was changed accordingly to include all stave types; why wasn't this done for tri-focus?

Have you even looked at the passive once?
Flamestaffs give you 8% on full heavy attacks
Lightningstaffs do 133% splashdamage to nearby enemies mkaing it a good aoe.

Have you even looked at the patch notes?
The passive you are describing is ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE, not Tri-Focus:

"Ancient Knowledge: This passive ability no longer decreases the cast time of your Destruction Staff Heavy Attacks by 5/10%. Instead, it grants you a bonus as long as you have one Destruction Staff ability slotted. This bonus depends on your staff type:
Flame Staves: Increases your single-target damage dealt by 4/8%.
Frost Staves: Increases the amount of damage you Block by 10/20%, and reduces the cost of Block by 15/30%.
Lightning Staves: Increases your Area of Effect damage dealt by 4/8%."

Are you serious? Did something fall on your head as a child?

http://imgur.com/a/91aEV

thats on pts just so you know.

kaithuzar · January 2017

Correction, there was truth to the fact that after logging in to the PTS it actually does list other benifits which were not described in the patch notes.
Disregard this thread

kaithuzar · January 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

The change to tri focus destro passive states:
"Tri Focus:
This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack.
This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

The problem with this is that it's a destruction passive which goes from a passive affecting all destruction staff users to a passive that ONLY is useful for utilizing a frost staff.

I have no problem with what it changes with the exception that there needs to be subsequent affects for flame & lightening staves of some type.

The ancient knowledge passive was changed accordingly to include all stave types; why wasn't this done for tri-focus?

Have you even looked at the passive once?
Flamestaffs give you 8% on full heavy attacks
Lightningstaffs do 133% splashdamage to nearby enemies mkaing it a good aoe.

Have you even looked at the patch notes?
The passive you are describing is ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE, not Tri-Focus:

"Ancient Knowledge: This passive ability no longer decreases the cast time of your Destruction Staff Heavy Attacks by 5/10%. Instead, it grants you a bonus as long as you have one Destruction Staff ability slotted. This bonus depends on your staff type:
Flame Staves: Increases your single-target damage dealt by 4/8%.
Frost Staves: Increases the amount of damage you Block by 10/20%, and reduces the cost of Block by 15/30%.
Lightning Staves: Increases your Area of Effect damage dealt by 4/8%."

Are you serious? Did something fall on your head as a child?

http://imgur.com/a/91aEV

thats on pts just so you know.

No, but apparently you did seeing as how you can't fathom someone reading patch notes & coming to a conclusion without having logged in.

xblackroxe · January 2017

kaithuzar wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

The change to tri focus destro passive states:
"Tri Focus:
This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack.
This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

The problem with this is that it's a destruction passive which goes from a passive affecting all destruction staff users to a passive that ONLY is useful for utilizing a frost staff.

I have no problem with what it changes with the exception that there needs to be subsequent affects for flame & lightening staves of some type.

The ancient knowledge passive was changed accordingly to include all stave types; why wasn't this done for tri-focus?

Have you even looked at the passive once?
Flamestaffs give you 8% on full heavy attacks
Lightningstaffs do 133% splashdamage to nearby enemies mkaing it a good aoe.

Have you even looked at the patch notes?
The passive you are describing is ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE, not Tri-Focus:

"Ancient Knowledge: This passive ability no longer decreases the cast time of your Destruction Staff Heavy Attacks by 5/10%. Instead, it grants you a bonus as long as you have one Destruction Staff ability slotted. This bonus depends on your staff type:
Flame Staves: Increases your single-target damage dealt by 4/8%.
Frost Staves: Increases the amount of damage you Block by 10/20%, and reduces the cost of Block by 15/30%.
Lightning Staves: Increases your Area of Effect damage dealt by 4/8%."

Are you serious? Did something fall on your head as a child?

http://imgur.com/a/91aEV

thats on pts just so you know.

No, but apparently you did seeing as how you can't fathom someone reading patch notes & coming to a conclusion without having logged in.

Oh I´m the unreasonable one now for actually checking something before coming here to QQ about it. Makes total sense :-*

kaithuzar · January 2017

I had a question, I wanted an answer, I received an answer. Excuse me for commenting on a public forum because ZOS makes it difficult to understand their patch notes.

xblackroxe · January 2017

No worries. Glad i could help.

ScruffyWhiskers · January 2017

Have to say that I thought the same thing with the way the patch note was worded.

You want to know what is still pointless though? Trying to get a crit off consistently with a heavy flame attack and shadowy disguise

Toast_STS · January 2017

Dracane wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

The change to tri focus destro passive states:
"Tri Focus:
This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack.
This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

The problem with this is that it's a destruction passive which goes from a passive affecting all destruction staff users to a passive that ONLY is useful for utilizing a frost staff.

I have no problem with what it changes with the exception that there needs to be subsequent affects for flame & lightening staves of some type.

The ancient knowledge passive was changed accordingly to include all stave types; why wasn't this done for tri-focus?

Have you even looked at the passive once?
Flamestaffs give you 8% on full heavy attacks
Lightningstaffs do 133% splashdamage to nearby enemies mkaing it a good aoe.

Not exactly clear, if lightning staves really deal 133% splash damage. the tooltip changes with every update.
Now on pts, it's 104% and it changes daily

Champion points will change the tooltip. With 0 CP it's 100%

Masel · January 2017

Dracane wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

The change to tri focus destro passive states:
"Tri Focus:
This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack.
This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

The problem with this is that it's a destruction passive which goes from a passive affecting all destruction staff users to a passive that ONLY is useful for utilizing a frost staff.

I have no problem with what it changes with the exception that there needs to be subsequent affects for flame & lightening staves of some type.

The ancient knowledge passive was changed accordingly to include all stave types; why wasn't this done for tri-focus?

Have you even looked at the passive once?
Flamestaffs give you 8% on full heavy attacks
Lightningstaffs do 133% splashdamage to nearby enemies mkaing it a good aoe.

Not exactly clear, if lightning staves really deal 133% splash damage. the tooltip changes with every update.
Now on pts, it's 104% and it changes daily

It doesn't change with update, it scales with your cp allocation.