SirAndy wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

What would you choose?

L2P

Are you still salty about the other thread where you were adamant that no one could have a negative opinion of the patch from reading the notes before PTS was live? The same thread where you disappeared and never replied after claiming I was "making things up" even though I provided you specific examples from the notes and challenged you to please address them?

Now that PTS is live and testing has confirmed Haunting proc cannot stack with a second curse, would you sill deny that it's a serious nerf? Just curious.

My new name will be "Wrobel Hates Balance

I trade you Flappy Flaps

For... uh

idk

NERF DKs AGAIN

SirAndy wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Just curious.

Salty? Far from it. Just amused by your continued whining.


Some of us are actually working on tweaking their character builds to reflect the changes.

But alas, it's probably easier to just sit in front of the forums and adding one whiny post after the other.
Yes, i get it, the sky is falling, ZOS will go bankrupt because you will unsub and leave the game, yada yada yada ...

I don't know where you learned to debate, but refusing to answer straightforward questions and responding instead with coy insults isn't flattering for yourself to say the least. If you're gona troll at least be more funny.

Here, I'll even paste all the examples I gave you again:

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Fiery Grip: Increased the duration of the Major Expedition buff granted by this ability and its morphs to 8 seconds from 2 seconds.

Meaningless change, until chains is fixed to actually work consistently it's not worth a bar slot.

Coagulating Blood (Dragon Blood morph): This morph now heals you for 33% of your missing Magicka instead of 33% of your missing Health.

Unadulterated nerf. Can you now get a concievably bigger heal? Yes. But only when you're nearly out OOM; a mag DK w/o mag is a dead DK. What's that you say, pop a pot or drop an ult to restore mag after healing? Hello genius, you could have just done that to heal in the first place then.

The key problem with this change is it makes the heal completely inconsistent! What happens when you take a burst but have high mag? You can't heal with this skill. An undependable heal is unacceptable in a game where damage is 100% dependable.

Strife: Increased the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 38%.

Cost increases are to the base cost of the skill, meaning that after factoring in cost reductions that everyone has the actual cost increase on your tooltip will be greater than the 38% listed int he patch notes. I don't have to be "on the pts" to know that this change hurts heavy armor S/B mag blades.

Encase: Reduced the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 6%.

Encase is already the strongest aoe root in the game for group PvP. Root & CC spam is already ridiculous, it doesn't need to be made cheaper.

Velocious Curse (Daedric Curse morph):
Renamed this morph to Haunting Curse.
This morph no longer shortens the duration of the curse to 3.5 seconds from 6 seconds; instead, it causes the curse to echo and trigger one additional time 6 seconds after the first explosion.

This is about the only nerf in the patch notes that you could defend by saying "well the wording is vague, you need to test it first". Even if it allows you to stack a Curse w/ the Haunting proc it would be an immensely stupid change.

Blazing Spear (Spear Shards morph): Increased the duration of this morph to 8 seconds from 6 seconds, causing it to tick damage an additional 2 times; however, it no longer stuns the enemy when it first hits them.

Removing one of templars few CCs is clearly a nerf fighting someone 1v1 or smallscale.

Radiant Destruction: Decreased the damage from this ability and its morphs by approximately 21%.

Straight up damage nerf, clearly affects templar dps negatively.

Elemental Storm: Reduced the damage for this ability and its morphs by 5%.

5% dmg reduction doesn't change anything in regards to how unbalanced destro ult is in PvP. I don't need to "test the numbers on pts" to deduce that.

Force Shock: This ability and its morphs can no longer be reflected. Beam-type attacks cannot be reflected, but are able to be blocked.

I don't need to be on PTS to see how this change harms mag DK by removing yet more counterplay from the game. This is even worse than the original design where force shock counted as 3 projectiles.
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You refused to explain where you thought I was wrong on those points, now that PTS is out surely you're more than equipped to give a counter argument for at least a single one of them?

Also for consideration ....

Wrobelnerfskin

Harry Proccer

Voracious Nerf

Staffs up Don't shoot

Saturday Night Streaker

@SirAndy How is the PvP testing going on your Sorc on PTS ? I have not rolled one to check . Also have you dueled anyone ?

SirAndy wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

@SirAndy How is the PvP testing going on your Sorc on PTS ? I have not rolled one to check . Also have you dueled anyone ?

Only one duel on the Sorc, i was more concerned about my NB and DK.

Played a lot with different gear, skills and CPs, even dusted off my lightning staff and summoned my pets (That combination worked surprisingly well in dungeons, there's just something about that electric crackle ).

I'll dig in some more once my guildies wake up ...

Cool , I was wondering if the curse change lowered dps in rotations . I'll have to load my old account and test myself . Let me know how it goes with a pet build with you guildies .

RIP MagSorc. You will be missed.

SirAndy wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

I don't know where you learned to debate, but refusing to answer straightforward questions and responding instead with coy insults isn't flattering for yourself to say the least. You refused to explain where you thought I was wrong on those points, now that PTS is out surely you're more than equipped to give a counter argument for at least a single one of them?

You say a lot but you have little to say.

I have no intention to "debate" any of your "points" since they have little substance and are not based in reality ...


PS: My Sorc is doing just fine on the PTS, minimal tweaking required.