Armitas wrote: »

Ardent flame.

Earthen Heart.

• Obsidian Shard - This is a very powerful heal, however I found it very unreliable given all the dodging in PvP. I have seen it dodged 3x in a row giving no heal. It would be nice to see the heal not be contingent with it landing.

I could say much more but anything else has been said for over a year and half now. I may add points as they come to me.

Kilandros wrote: »

Not sure why I'm posting feedback since it's clearly ignored, but here goes:

Chains: As has been said in literally dozens of threads over the last year, Chains is an inadequate gap closer. The fact that it is basically a projectile that can be dodged before your character has a chance to close the gap makes it too unreliable for use in PvP. Experienced mDKs have REPEATEDLY pointed this out. No amount of Major Expedition in the world can change the simple fact that most of the time this gap closer does nothing. Please--PLEASE--give us a Magicka version of Invasion.

Coagulating Blood: Some of my test heals have been large but I suspect that's because this is currently bugged and ignoring Battle Spirit. That being said, I dislike this change because it's clear you are trying to make it complex for complexity's sake. We don't need fussy, silly skills. We need decent, reliable skills. My Magicka isn't always low when my health is low and vice versa. This skill makes for counterintuitive and annoying gameplay. Revert to the former version of Coagulating Blood and simply make it exempt from Battle Spirit. Done. Voila.

Inferno: How this skill has been allowed to exist in its current useless state for so long is beyond me. It used to function wonderfully when it was an AoE. Just return it to that. Dynamic Ult isn't a thing anymore. This skill won't over perform like it used to.

Class Passives: I'm having some trouble accepting that none of our class passives were updated. Elder Dragon, for instance, still buffs health recovery. Please show me a DK who stacks health recovery in PvE or PvP. Our passives are outdated and generally uninspired. Look, a passive that increases the duration of Searing Strike and Dragonknight Standard--you couldn't just bake that duration increase into the ability itself and add something interesting? A chance to set Burning targets off balance. DoT do increased damage to targets below 15% health, etc.

Honestly these changes feel lazy and like Developers are attempting to do only the bare minimum. For well over a year and a half, experienced mDKs have thoughtfully laid out the class's strengths and weaknesses and how best to address them. We were told you were listening to our feedback, and yet (with the exception of Flame morph for Leap) literally ALL of our feedback went ignored. Players explicitly said Whip damage wasn't the problem; sustain and lack of healing is. Well, we got zero buffs to sustain and a heal that only rewards us when our sustain is gone.

That's the end of feedback I'm gonna give. I think it's pretty telling at this point when you compare the number of people actively playing Templar vs. the number actively playing DK. The suggestions are out there, you guys continue to ignore them.

Areloth wrote: »

I tested it in cyrodiil.
Test it before hating Zeni too much.

• Whip - 5% damage increase is welcome. Not really a big deal either way.
• Volatile Armor - A very nice damage buff. This skill doesn't do much damage, but when you add it with the utility and mitigation, the little extra damage it does will be helpful.

• Standard of Might - At 250 ultimate for a situational and difficult to use ult, the nerf won't do much of anything since on one uses it in PvP.
• Inferno - Still not useful except in duels.
• Chains - it seems some work has been done on this abilities' too high/too low problem. It seemed to be a little more reliable than before. The Expedition is a welcome addition. However, the other problems with this skill keep it firmly on the list of skills not worth slotting because it's just not reliable.
• Leap - A welcome change. I did get a 9k+ tick against a tanky, non-blocking player. Probably not going to use it because of the other longstanding issues with the skill being broken and easily blockable/dodgeable. while buffed on a relatively low damage spec.
• Clouding Swarm - Since most MDKs are vamps, it's worth mentioning. It was underwhelming. Even on a target not blocking or mitigating the damage was much less than you need from an ultimate.

• Coagulating Dragon Blood - You've actually managed to take a bad skill and make it worse. Yes, there are ways to get a decent heal out of it, but you have to just barely have enough magicka to cast igneous + CDB, get your heal, then use your ult or a potion in order to maybe recover enough resources not to die. Unfortunately, mDKs need those ults to burst down players. We didn't need another skill that requires intensive management and timing to maybe get something good out of it. If the heal of that morph was simply based on max magicka it would be solid and useful -- perhaps even enough to justify a nerf to Burning Embers.
• Wings - Now 100% not worth slotting. It already doesn't fully reflect Dark Flare, doesn't work against animation cancelled poison injections, doesn't work against certain projectile attacks from stealth and now doesn't work against destro weaves while destro is also getting buffed.

• No sustain help. This class still has excruciatingly high costs and no passives to help with it. There's no class-based MInor Magickasteal either. Hypothetically one could go destro/resto but at a large set piece penalty -- important because mDKs pretty much have to run one sustain set, so this means giving up even more damage.

dws90 wrote: »

Testing
I tested a the new dragonblood on a template character with around 40,000 max magicka. I used equilibrium and mage light to control the amount of health and magicka I had, and became a Stage 4 Vampire to minimize health regen. As I'm a PvE player I tested outside of Cyrodiil. I put 5 points into Quick Recovery and 10 into Blessed since that seemed like a reasonable thing to do with the extra CP.

The 33% of missing magicka is applied after the cost of the dragonblood. Dragonblood for me was 3085 (with max Magician, so that's pretty darn expensive). This came out to about a 1300 heal with max magicka, which is pretty worthless. With Major Mending from shield and the healing received bonus from a previous cast of Dragonblood, this went up to 2700, which is a bit more useless.

It became more useful with less magicka, obviously. At 70% magicka it was healing for 6000 with the vitality buff, which is less useless. Vitality lists for 23 seconds so its possible to keep that up all the time, making the heal a bit higher than it looks like on paper.

Conclusion

Under normal combat circumstances where my magicka is lower, it isn't a bad heal. Most of the time it would heal me to full or almost full. However, I doubt I'd ever use it in practice, for several reasons:
1. It's expensive. 3000 magicka with maxed out magician is a lot, particularly if I'm already low on magicka. Lowering the cost obviously won't help, because lowering the cost would also lower the heal. For comparison Vigor costs 2200 stamina (on a magicka character).
2. It's not reliable. Uh oh, I used a pot or an ult recently, so now dragonblood is useless. Trying to keep my magicka low in order to maintain an emergency heal is more work than its worth.

For comparison, on a magicka specced character, my vigor costs 2200 stamina and heals for 5000 health (albeit over 5 seconds). This makes a single tick of vigor on slightly worse than dragonblood with my magicka full, plus vigor has 4 more seconds worth of healing and heals other people. When I have to think carefully about whether my magicka character benefits more from the magicka heal or the stamina heal, that is not a good sign for balance.

My suggestion would be to make dragonblood a HoT similar to Vigor. That remains something unique (no magicka class has an heal like that right now) yet is useful.

• Our ability costs were never adjusted after the nerf to dynamic ultimate gain which feed directly into our battle roar.
• We have to withhold our ultimates to overcome the lack of effective dots, exectute, or defile.
• We now have OP resource poisons to deal with.
• A plenitude of major defiles in the game means redundant heal casts
• We actually had sustain removed from FoO thought it was not much to begin with