Homes prices, what do you think?

Gilvoth · January 2017

from what i see, those prices are perfect.
thank you zenimax.
im not a rich man, and these prices are perfect.

Mic1007 · January 2017

Seems fine to me. Manors are not exactly supposed to easily purchased.

RebornV3x · January 2017

I think it's fine

disintegr8 · January 2017

mrsrobot wrote: »

So for all houses with no furniture (assuming i used the calculator right and I'm tired and did mis-key one) is about 22,339,500. This khajit better getting picking pockets til her fur drops off.

You're going to have very sore fingers to pickpocket all of that gold. I added it up to 25,737,000 to buy all houses but once you go over 20 mil, whats a few mil between friends

Skinzz · January 2017

3.7 mill for a manor? Ill just buy it with crowns lol

Fudly_budly · January 2017

Prices are good. I've been grinding the economics in this game - not dungeons. This is my reward for hours of farming mats, fishing, trading, kiosk runs, saving, getting one-shotted by BiS meta hot shots. Hey, be nice and I might open an "old soldiers home" where Argonian maids offer spear polishing hehehe.

Elara_Northwind · January 2017

That depends... Does the house in Auridon, Mathiisen, count as being medium, large or a manor? If its a manor, I will probably have to look for a new home, I am far too much of a shopaholic to be able to afford to spend 3.7 million on a house

Shezzarrine · January 2017

The prices are perfect. I'm saying this and I can't even afford a medium sized house. Most of the people complaining about how expensive they are just want a handout instead of something you have to work for. Shocker

UrQuan · January 2017

SadieJoan wrote: »

That depends... Does the house in Auridon, Mathiisen, count as being medium, large or a manor? If its a manor, I will probably have to look for a new home, I am far too much of a shopaholic to be able to afford to spend 3.7 million on a house

I believe this is the house you're looking for @SadieJoan:

Natch Potes wrote:

Mathiisen Manor, 1,025,000 gold: This elegant walled estate is truly the apogee of Aldmeri architecture, including a grand entrance hall, curving double staircases, and a blossom-tree garden with circular reflecting pool.

Elara_Northwind · January 2017

UrQuan wrote: »

SadieJoan wrote: »

That depends... Does the house in Auridon, Mathiisen, count as being medium, large or a manor? If its a manor, I will probably have to look for a new home, I am far too much of a shopaholic to be able to afford to spend 3.7 million on a house

I believe this is the house you're looking for @SadieJoan:

Natch Potes wrote:

Mathiisen Manor, 1,025,000 gold: This elegant walled estate is truly the apogee of Aldmeri architecture, including a grand entrance hall, curving double staircases, and a blossom-tree garden with circular reflecting pool.

OMG, thank you!

I can afford my house, yay!

Vyle_Byte · January 2017

The prices seem spot on, its pretty much the only thing I find reasonable in this patch.

Fudly_budly · January 2017

Mic1007 wrote: »

Seems fine to me. Manors are not exactly supposed to easily purchased.

exactly this ^^
but then there's furnishings. gold gone!

elantaura · January 2017

I think they are overpriced if they lack storage. Ideal if they had it though . 2.7 mill ..for what exactly?

I also think that they should have one cheaper smaller home at least For newer players. Not the best home but not an apartment.
Housing may attract new players and I think making one home more affordable to encouraging them to stay. tie lots of quest to it to cheapen it if you will, make it hold less, there just need to be one so we can hopefully "retain" newer players, while giving them a better something to work towards.

Although I don't make skyrim associations im going too. I feel We essentially need a breezehome for newer players. You have a free room, you got that in skyrim too - but it's not a house.
I think a small house like the basic mount should be obtainable earlyish say 20000 much cheaper that I'd generally I'd like, but one home I feel needs to be relatively affordable to the newbies early on - I want them to stay. So small reward but work towards a bigger goal.

I'd also have liked to have seen ap or telvar come into play as a currency Option for buying houses. If pvp is truely endgame, then it make sense to make that currency viable in the housing system. ( except me as I main a a mageblade so I've only got deathawaiting me and as such So just have some gold )

WhiteCoatSyndrome · January 2017

Prices look good; my big complaint is that the big house in Craglorn doesn't seem to be on the list.

I guess I'll take a look at Phrastus' house...

Honestly I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop at this point.

newtinmpls · January 2017

UrQuan wrote: »

Prices seem pretty damn reasonable to me. There's something for everyone's price range. I'm going to have to save up if I want a manor, but that's OK.

Good point.

The way I don't sell, farm or deal, it's not reasonable for me to afford much.

Glaiceana · January 2017

Yeah agree with everyone here, the prices aren't actually too bad. It would be a shame if the biggest places were super cheap, you'd have nothing to work towards. And especially as a guild, you can all chip in for a home and that's the pay off

I'm going to wait for someone to do a preview of all the homes, if that doesn't happen, I guess I'll wait and just see which place I want as my personal house, and save up (if I need to) Will be fun learning all the new furniture plans too!

Berret · January 2017

Prices look fair, gives me something to save up for too!

Teridaxus · January 2017

I'm more curious about the crown prices since they loving making crazy prices for cosmetics.
I guess 20k crowns for a manor?

MissBizz · January 2017

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

I'm more curious about the crown prices since they loving making crazy prices for cosmetics.
I guess 20k crowns for a manor?

I'm curious too. I was thinking 10k for manor but it might be more like what you're thinking.

UrQuan · January 2017

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

I'm more curious about the crown prices since they loving making crazy prices for cosmetics.
I guess 20k crowns for a manor?

If they're smart they'll make it more reasonable than 20K crowns for a manor. Why? Because these (the first round of them anyway) are all available for in-game gold.

At a little over 3.75 million gold per manor an awful lot of people who want those but don't have that kind of gold kicking around are going to think "well dang, maybe I should spend crowns on that". If they also make the cost in crowns super high, then those same people are going to be seeing even more sticker shock at the crown price. Since they're facing a huge expenditure in either gold or crowns, most people would then work out how much the crowns cost them in real money. If they still want the manor that badly after that, they'd most likely work on getting it with gold (possibly by pooling gold between friends/guildies, or whatever) rather than spend the money.

Sure, some people would just plunk down their credit cards and buy it with crowns regardless of the price, but the way for this to be the most profitable for ZOS is to get a lot of people who don't have nearly enough gold to buy the big ones to look at the cost in crowns and say "hmm, that's a lot, but it's not *that* bad, and I'll never have that much gold so I guess I'll buy it".

No idea what the sweet spot is for that, but I'm sure it's lower than 20K.

Of course, I'm not saying they won't price them as high as that, I'm just saying they'd be a lot smarter not to...

DannyLV702 · January 2017

Axorn wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Prices seem pretty damn reasonable to me. There's something for everyone's price range. I'm going to have to save up if I want a manor, but that's OK.

Manor is not reasonable im not going dump my all hard earned money into a barbie house.

Guess who's forcing you? (Hint: no one)

Betheny · January 2017

UrQuan wrote: »

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

I'm more curious about the crown prices since they loving making crazy prices for cosmetics.
I guess 20k crowns for a manor?

If they're smart they'll make it more reasonable than 20K crowns for a manor. Why? Because these (the first round of them anyway) are all available for in-game gold.

At a little over 3.75 million gold per manor an awful lot of people who want those but don't have that kind of gold kicking around are going to think "well dang, maybe I should spend crowns on that". If they also make the cost in crowns super high, then those same people are going to be seeing even more sticker shock at the crown price. Since they're facing a huge expenditure in either gold or crowns, most people would then work out how much the crowns cost them in real money. If they still want the manor that badly after that, they'd most likely work on getting it with gold (possibly by pooling gold between friends/guildies, or whatever) rather than spend the money.

Sure, some people would just plunk down their credit cards and buy it with crowns regardless of the price, but the way for this to be the most profitable for ZOS is to get a lot of people who don't have nearly enough gold to buy the big ones to look at the cost in crowns and say "hmm, that's a lot, but it's not *that* bad, and I'll never have that much gold so I guess I'll buy it".

No idea what the sweet spot is for that, but I'm sure it's lower than 20K.

Of course, I'm not saying they won't price them as high as that, I'm just saying they'd be a lot smarter not to...

If they overpriced them in Crown costs they'd then have to start selling $200 Crown Packs for people to be able to afford them, which might make even the spendiest person think twice about what they're doing.

Pixel_Zealot · January 2017

I don't like it being able to be bought with in-game gold as it has a serious effect on begging.
When it hits live, it's going to start messing with the community's economy. "WTS Vimpire bit fir 100k plz"

Lylith · January 2017

if they included storage, most of the prices would be reasonable.

Hortator Indoril Nerevar · January 2017

xskinzcity wrote: »

3.7 mill for a manor? Ill just buy it with crowns lol

Here we have the real reason they are 3.7m and not a reasonable price. If this game was sub based still we would have a far lower price and everyone would also be fine with it. However everyone here is fine with it being a rip off. Saying "Manors are for guilds" etc when nothing has been added to support that from the devs and all while they ignore the fact they added a title which is account based not guild based for ownership of all 3 manors which would take more than 10M to obtain.

This is rubbish.

I have 6M and seriously hope all the houses are rubbish looking so I am not tempted to waste money on a obvious crown store incentive based scam patch...

As someone who has 96% of all PVE based achievements and ONLY plays the game for the enjoyment of getting all the achievements I seriously may have just had my future/continued play determined for me. I dont play games to NOT experience what it has to offer..

Pandorii · January 2017

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

3.7 mill for a manor? Ill just buy it with crowns lol

Here we have the real reason they are 3.7m and not a reasonable price. If this game was sub based still we would have a far lower price and everyone would also be fine with it. However everyone here is fine with it being a rip off. Saying "Manors are for guilds" etc when nothing has been added to support that from the devs and all while they ignore the fact they added a title which is account based not guild based for ownership of all 3 manors which would take more than 10M to obtain.

This is rubbish.

I have 6M and seriously hope all the houses are rubbish looking so I am not tempted to waste money on a obvious crown store incentive based scam patch...

As someone who has 96% of all PVE based achievements and ONLY plays the game for the enjoyment of getting all the achievements I seriously may have just had my future/continued play determined for me. I dont play games to NOT experience what it has to offer..

This ^

The real reason that the largest houses cost as much as they do is to get people to think "I'd rather just buy it with crowns." Anyone who thinks otherwise is wearing pink-colored glasses.

xXSilverDragonXx · January 2017

They feel reasonable to me but that is only because part of my fun in this game has been amassing a wicked fortune so I have a sick amount of gold to spend on this stuff for kicks. I think the medium houses and larger are kind of pricey for players who have not done that or who have spent their gold on their gears and probably had to change them every update. Something like that feels a bit unfair.

Tonight Deltia joked that he doesn't have enough gold to get one of the large houses in his stream. At first I was surprised and thought that couldn't be true but then I realized that when he plays he plays the game not the market. He farms for items, golds them, tests builds, uses pots, does stuff with his guild, makes videos for us to learn... so it made sense to me and then I applied that to all other gamers who have zero interest in the making money for the fun of it in eso. They wouldn't have fortunes if it was not their priority. If gears, golding items, farming sets all that stuff is their priority, they might have far less gold after all of that. Or even the people who spend fortunes to float their merchant guilds. That might be where all their money has gone. So as I think of it, while some have lots of money to waste on this stuff, I can see how many would not. That's sort of a disappointment for those that were just playing the game the way you would if amassing a fortune was not something that interested you at all.

Hortator Indoril Nerevar · January 2017

xXSilverDragonXx wrote: »

They feel reasonable to me but that is only because part of my fun in this game has been amassing a wicked fortune so I have a sick amount of gold to spend on this stuff for kicks. I think the medium houses and larger are kind of pricey for players who have not done that or who have spent their gold on their gears and probably had to change them every update. Something like that feels a bit unfair.

Tonight Deltia joked that he doesn't have enough gold to get one of the large houses in his stream. At first I was surprised and thought that couldn't be true but then I realized that when he plays he plays the game not the market. He farms for items, golds them, tests builds, uses pots, does stuff with his guild, makes videos for us to learn... so it made sense to me and then I applied that to all other gamers who have zero interest in the making money for the fun of it in eso. They wouldn't have fortunes if it was not their priority. If gears, golding items, farming sets all that stuff is their priority, they might have far less gold after all of that. Or even the people who spend fortunes to float their merchant guilds. That might be where all their money has gone. So as I think of it, while some have lots of money to waste on this stuff, I can see how many would not. That's sort of a disappointment for those that were just playing the game the way you would if amassing a fortune was not something that interested you at all.

Do you have 10M+ for all 3 manors? (able to obtain the achievements)
Second question if you answered yes, Do you plan to spend 10M+ of your X gold to get all three?

ArchMikem · January 2017

I've been having a Hell of a time just maintaining 100k in my Bank. I think I can kiss that Manor Achievement goodbye...

raglau · January 2017

Betheny wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

I'm more curious about the crown prices since they loving making crazy prices for cosmetics.
I guess 20k crowns for a manor?

If they're smart they'll make it more reasonable than 20K crowns for a manor. Why? Because these (the first round of them anyway) are all available for in-game gold.

At a little over 3.75 million gold per manor an awful lot of people who want those but don't have that kind of gold kicking around are going to think "well dang, maybe I should spend crowns on that". If they also make the cost in crowns super high, then those same people are going to be seeing even more sticker shock at the crown price. Since they're facing a huge expenditure in either gold or crowns, most people would then work out how much the crowns cost them in real money. If they still want the manor that badly after that, they'd most likely work on getting it with gold (possibly by pooling gold between friends/guildies, or whatever) rather than spend the money.

Sure, some people would just plunk down their credit cards and buy it with crowns regardless of the price, but the way for this to be the most profitable for ZOS is to get a lot of people who don't have nearly enough gold to buy the big ones to look at the cost in crowns and say "hmm, that's a lot, but it's not *that* bad, and I'll never have that much gold so I guess I'll buy it".

No idea what the sweet spot is for that, but I'm sure it's lower than 20K.

Of course, I'm not saying they won't price them as high as that, I'm just saying they'd be a lot smarter not to...

If they overpriced them in Crown costs they'd then have to start selling $200 Crown Packs for people to be able to afford them, which might make even the spendiest person think twice about what they're doing.

Also, we have to remember that housing is merely a framework through which ZOS can deliver an unending stream of monetisable content without going P2W. ZOS want people on the housing ladder so they can sell them more stuff to put in there. Additionally housing deflects attention and time away from broken PvP and lack of challenging PvE content, so they'll not shoot themselves in the foot by over-pricing in the Crown Store, because that would put people off buying and the real money is made when a cash shop 'boils the frog'.

I personally think the in game pricing is reasonable, I'll get a house with in game gold, I mean gold is one thing this game does chuck at you and there's nothing else to spend it on since all the sets went BoP.