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Dragon Knight PTS discussion (homestead)
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zacvanm✭✭✭Honestly just keep Embers up..but if you're dead set on using the Dragon Blood abilities then why even morph it? SypherPK showed earlier in a 1v2 when he finished the fight he was like 30% health and 80% magicka. Doesn't make sense why even morph.EP Nord StamDK PvP
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hey atleast you can block with an ice staff now
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Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...3 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Honestly just keep Embers up..but if you're dead set on using the Dragon Blood abilities then why even morph it? SypherPK showed earlier in a 1v2 when he finished the fight he was like 30% health and 80% magicka. Doesn't make sense why even morph.
Because coagulating gave us extra healing received which helped offset the already garbage heal, now we have to use a useless heal or have a redundant stam regen buff that doesnt even stack with a potion.0 -
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✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno when will the server be up so we can assess the damage done to our class?3 -
forzajuve212✭✭✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »Honestly just keep Embers up..but if you're dead set on using the Dragon Blood abilities then why even morph it? SypherPK showed earlier in a 1v2 when he finished the fight he was like 30% health and 80% magicka. Doesn't make sense why even morph.
Because coagulating gave us extra healing received which helped offset the already garbage heal, now we have to use a useless heal or have a redundant stam regen buff that doesnt even stack with a potion.
Seriously how the hell did they justify not changing green dragon blood at all? It's been useless to every single build, stam mag perma blockers pve tanks and they didnt change it??????
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm going to stop torturing myself and go stam . That's what Wrobel supports . Every time magic gets in a barely playable state he slaps it down .3 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭forzajuve212 wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »Honestly just keep Embers up..but if you're dead set on using the Dragon Blood abilities then why even morph it? SypherPK showed earlier in a 1v2 when he finished the fight he was like 30% health and 80% magicka. Doesn't make sense why even morph.
Because coagulating gave us extra healing received which helped offset the already garbage heal, now we have to use a useless heal or have a redundant stam regen buff that doesnt even stack with a potion.
Seriously how the hell did they justify not changing green dragon blood at all? It's been useless to every single build, stam mag perma blockers pve tanks and they didnt change it??????
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zacvanm✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »Honestly just keep Embers up..but if you're dead set on using the Dragon Blood abilities then why even morph it? SypherPK showed earlier in a 1v2 when he finished the fight he was like 30% health and 80% magicka. Doesn't make sense why even morph.
Because coagulating gave us extra healing received which helped offset the already garbage heal, now we have to use a useless heal or have a redundant stam regen buff that doesnt even stack with a potion.
Cast earthen heart shield and then hit dragon blood..doesn't that increase healing received as well? Haven't played magDK in a bit so I can't think
EP Nord StamDK PvP
EP Breton Magplar PvP/PvE
1750cp
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zacvanm✭✭✭Testing needs to be done FOR SUREEdited by zacvanm on January 4, 2017 12:12AMEP Nord StamDK PvP
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I'm going to stop torturing myself and go stam . That's what Wrobel supports . Every time magic gets in a barely playable state he slaps it down .
Well stam took a hit with the unchained change.
Apart from stam sorc because they can still run around with 600 regen on a full damage set up because of dark deal + heavy.
Sure veli took a hit... kind of but now you can just stack 40k stamina and nearly 5k wpn dmg with fury + 1x kena + 1x veli + agility + msa weps.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »Honestly just keep Embers up..but if you're dead set on using the Dragon Blood abilities then why even morph it? SypherPK showed earlier in a 1v2 when he finished the fight he was like 30% health and 80% magicka. Doesn't make sense why even morph.
Because coagulating gave us extra healing received which helped offset the already garbage heal, now we have to use a useless heal or have a redundant stam regen buff that doesnt even stack with a potion.
Cast earthen heart shield and then hit dragon blood..doesn't that increase healing received as well? Haven't played magDK in a bit so I can't think
Igneous shield gives us major mending which buffs healing done, coagulating blood boosts healing received. Both of those together and it was still a *** heal lol.5 -
KirinBlaze✭✭✭✭wow WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
This must be a ****ing prank.
DK IS BACK....in the trashcan.Kirin Blaze - Ebonheart Pact - Imperial DragonknightKïrïn Bläzë - Daggerfall Covenant - Imperial DragonknightKìrín Blàzé - Aldmeri Dominion - Imperial DragonknightVehemence - Omni - COMBUSTION11 -
zacvanm✭✭✭Just wish it was a Rally-esque heal for magDKs. I would likely play mine more.EP Nord StamDK PvP
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✭✭Dan_Fazzyub17_ESO wrote: »
This just might be the final straw that breaks my back. We have all literally been ****ing led on and betrayed. BETRAYED. This is ****ing OUTRAGEOUS.
All I see is ****ing magic nerfs to everything, and to top it off the hype wrobel built for mag DKs of all things just to completely neuter not only our heal, but nerf Standard of Might too, JUST IN CASE
What the actual ****??~!7 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I'm going to stop torturing myself and go stam . That's what Wrobel supports . Every time magic gets in a barely playable state he slaps it down .
Well stam took a hit with the unchained change.
Apart from stam sorc because they can still run around with 600 regen on a full damage set up because of dark deal + heavy.
Sure veli took a hit... kind of but now you can just stack 40k stamina and nearly 5k wpn dmg with fury + 1x kena + 1x veli + agility + msa weps.
I think the heals and damage available on stam will certainly outplay Majic now . That's really frustrating after prepping a MagDK for this patch .1 -
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✭✭Dan_Fazzyub17_ESO wrote: »
This just might be the final straw that breaks my back. We have all literally been ****ing led on and betrayed. BETRAYED. This is ****ing OUTRAGEOUS.
All I see is ****ing magic nerfs to everything, and to top it off the hype wrobel built for mag DKs of all things just to completely neuter not only our heal, but nerf Standard of Might too, JUST IN CASE
What the actual ****??~!
We'll hold a funeral in Cyrodiil, RIP DK1 -
Toast_STS✭✭✭✭I'm excited for the Ferocious Leap change. I was playing around with take flight in cyrodiil yesterday on my mDK and hitting 10k leaps so it will be nice to add some spell pen and CP into that.
Edit: oh but take flight does more damage and costs less anyway. I'm not that excited anymoreEdited by Toast_STS on January 4, 2017 12:58AMVR14 DK Leaps-in-keeps0 -
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✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Wrobel said he had great things for DK coming . Why does every gift from him feel like a horse made from Spartans ?
The gift is the nerfs aren't as bad as the other classes
PUG Life - the true test of your skill
18 characters, 17 max level, at least 1 Stam and 1 Mag of every class, 1 of every race and 1200+ CP
Tanked to Undaunted 9+ Mag and Stam of every class using Group Finder for 90+% of the Vet Dungeon runs2 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Here is the information we got from AUA regarding the homestead update.We always take feedback seriously. One Tamriel was so huge we had to focus on the balance and new item sets. With the next major update we will be focusing on class balance and abilities. We have a pretty cool new version of Dragon Blood planned that will help magicka DKs while maintaining it's power level for high health characters.Yup, we definitely have planned a good list of buffs for magicka DK and also balance in general for magicka vs stamina DPS.We want to make DK's have a unique playstyle that does not include an execute ability. Instead we want them to focus on pressuing enemy's health bars with DoT effects. We've got some sweet changes for magicka DKs planned for update 13!We're already got a pretty significant list of buffs for magicka DKs coming with update 13 and we have been reading your feedback.Retired.
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Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What a s*** Dragon Blood change. So if i get jumped by the NB meta and am full magicka and little health, do i even get a damn heal? Fire @Wrobel if this is the best he can do. Tired of waiting for him to pull his head out of his a**.
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Curragraigue wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Wrobel said he had great things for DK coming . Why does every gift from him feel like a horse made from Spartans ?
The gift is the nerfs aren't as bad as the other classes
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Ishammael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »Honestly just keep Embers up..but if you're dead set on using the Dragon Blood abilities then why even morph it? SypherPK showed earlier in a 1v2 when he finished the fight he was like 30% health and 80% magicka. Doesn't make sense why even morph.
Because coagulating gave us extra healing received which helped offset the already garbage heal, now we have to use a useless heal or have a redundant stam regen buff that doesnt even stack with a potion.
Cast earthen heart shield and then hit dragon blood..doesn't that increase healing received as well? Haven't played magDK in a bit so I can't think
Let me do some calculations for you and anyone else that may be reading this thread (aka @Wrobel )
In the current implementation, Coagulating Blood heals for 33% of missing Health. It provides a +8% healing bonus.
If you combine Igneous Shield (+25%) with Voltatile Armor (+12%) and use Coagulating Blood (+8%) you can achieve a total of +45% healing.
Lets say your mDK has 25k HP. If you have 10k remaining, your missing health is 15k. One third of 15k is 5k.
Now lets apply bonuses and compute a heal: 5000*1.45*.5 = 3625!!!!
Do you now begin to understand how horrible Dragon Blood is, even with +45% healing!? This doesn't even consider healing debuffs which are prevalent!
Now as a homework assignment, calculate how much Vigor heals and compare the two.10 -
Berenhir✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Hey atleast you can block with an ice staff now
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and heal with coagulating when your magicka has been drained from blocking^^PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -0 -
omfgitsbatman✭✭✭✭Dan_Fazzyub17_ESO wrote: »
This just might be the final straw that breaks my back. We have all literally been ****ing led on and betrayed. BETRAYED. This is ****ing OUTRAGEOUS.
All I see is ****ing magic nerfs to everything, and to top it off the hype wrobel built for mag DKs of all things just to completely neuter not only our heal, but nerf Standard of Might too, JUST IN CASE
What the actual ****??~!
Everything being nerfed is not a bad thing imo. Less insta-gibs.. BUT DK's were lied to, (gapclose and heals) and dark deal didn't get nerfed..... so much for balanceHe's the healer Tamriel deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hurt his tank. Because he can heal them to full. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful rejuvinator. A Cloaked Healer.
@Omfgitsbatman PC/NA
Ticktick-Argonian Nightblade Healer/Magicka DPS
Tinytick- Imperial DK Tank
Wuches Y'Shaur- V16 High Elf Sorc Magicka DPS
Ticktator- Dunmer DK Magicka DPS
Tick Head- Dark Elf Magicka NB DPS
GM:
Mercs Of Sovngarde (EP/NA): AA (HM), HRC (HM), VSO (HM), VDSA, VMSA complete
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KirinBlaze✭✭✭✭Dan_Fazzyub17_ESO wrote: »
This just might be the final straw that breaks my back. We have all literally been ****ing led on and betrayed. BETRAYED. This is ****ing OUTRAGEOUS.
All I see is ****ing magic nerfs to everything, and to top it off the hype wrobel built for mag DKs of all things just to completely neuter not only our heal, but nerf Standard of Might too, JUST IN CASE
What the actual ****??~!
Stamina Builds Online.
If you play a magicka build? Go *** yourself.Kirin Blaze - Ebonheart Pact - Imperial DragonknightKïrïn Bläzë - Daggerfall Covenant - Imperial DragonknightKìrín Blàzé - Aldmeri Dominion - Imperial DragonknightVehemence - Omni - COMBUSTION3 -
Ishammael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭omfgitsbatman wrote: »Dan_Fazzyub17_ESO wrote: »
This just might be the final straw that breaks my back. We have all literally been ****ing led on and betrayed. BETRAYED. This is ****ing OUTRAGEOUS.
All I see is ****ing magic nerfs to everything, and to top it off the hype wrobel built for mag DKs of all things just to completely neuter not only our heal, but nerf Standard of Might too, JUST IN CASE
What the actual ****??~!
Everything being nerfed is not a bad thing imo. Less insta-gibs.. BUT DK's were lied to, (gapclose and heals) and dark deal didn't get nerfed..... so much for balance
Yeah this one is bizarre to me. Probably one of the most overperforming skills right now.
The nerf to Radiant was backward, too. It should have kept damage and have range reduced to 12m or something.4 -
KirinBlaze✭✭✭✭Here is the information we got from AUA regarding the homestead update.We always take feedback seriously. One Tamriel was so huge we had to focus on the balance and new item sets. With the next major update we will be focusing on class balance and abilities. We have a pretty cool new version of Dragon Blood planned that will help magicka DKs while maintaining it's power level for high health characters.Yup, we definitely have planned a good list of buffs for magicka DK and also balance in general for magicka vs stamina DPS.We want to make DK's have a unique playstyle that does not include an execute ability. Instead we want them to focus on pressuing enemy's health bars with DoT effects. We've got some sweet changes for magicka DKs planned for update 13!We're already got a pretty significant list of buffs for magicka DKs coming with update 13 and we have been reading your feedback.
@ZOS_RichLambert So...where are these buffs you guys all promised us?Kirin Blaze - Ebonheart Pact - Imperial DragonknightKïrïn Bläzë - Daggerfall Covenant - Imperial DragonknightKìrín Blàzé - Aldmeri Dominion - Imperial DragonknightVehemence - Omni - COMBUSTION3 -
NewFalloutSoul ShrivenSpit balling Idea to make MagDK a better PVP and PVE class in terms of Sustain;
- Inhale ( Deep Breath): Inflict All affected enemies with Health Steal DeBuff instead of making a Flat 100% of Damage Dealt. So you have a Healing DoT that can Crit.
- Inhale ( Draw Essence); Inflict All affected enemies with a Magicka Steal DeBuff instead of it being a flat 10% of the Spell Cost because you currently are running a lot of Magicka cost reduction so instead of a 3200~ cost inhale granting 320 Magicka per target or even less.
- A Real Spit Ball idea; Make Ash Cloud a distance ground targeted Teleport to, and you explode from dealing decent damage.
Edited by NewFallout on January 4, 2017 12:29AM3