Dragon Knight PTS discussion (homestead)

Astanphaeus · January 2017

Standard nerfed, Coagulating Blood...somethinged. And while we are at it, I would include this part in any consideration:

Ancient Knowledge: This passive ability no longer decreases the cast time of your Destruction Staff Heavy Attacks by 5/10%. Instead, it grants you a bonus as long as you have one Destruction Staff ability slotted. This bonus depends on your staff type:
Flame Staves: Increases your single-target damage dealt by 4/8%.
Frost Staves: Increases the amount of damage you Block by 10/20%, and reduces the cost of Block by 15/30%.
Lightning Staves: Increases your Area of Effect damage dealt by 4/8%.

First of all, why is the AoE increase as high as the single target increase?
Secondly, with passives, most of us mDKs use flame staves, so e ill have to figure out which passive is more powerful for PvP.

This is just not what I was looking for when they indicated they would fix mDKs.

Izaki · January 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Saint_Bud wrote: »

No reason to slott this in pvp. People ask for gabcloser, a real heal instead burning embers and inhale.
But yes mdk get fireleap after 2 years of asking.
But this doesent matter, cyro will die fast with this patch.

For pve endgame dd role it looks good, but for pve quest&co its same as for pvp

DK actually took a hit in terms of trials dps, and it wasn't exactly the best to begin with. The standard nerf means our dots will do less damange. Plus trap nerf etc.... so even with a harder whip DK's lose out overall.

As for pvp... Gapcloser? A non-gimmick-y heal?

Gained 8% damage from using an inferno. That's actually made magblade minor beserk useless.

Nah it stacks bro.

pjwb16_ESO · January 2017

Ishammael wrote: »

The dragon Blood change really forces DK into low regen builds to maximize its potency.

Incoming all DKs running Trainee and Tava I think.

I already run that and sustain isnt a problem due to meteors every time they're up lol

omfgitsbatman · January 2017

Why couldn't we get the stam sorc treatment?

Ghost-Shot · January 2017

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Why couldn't we get the stam sorc treatment?

Still being punished for launch - 1.5 for some reason, also, @Wrobel is bad at his job.

omfgitsbatman · January 2017

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Why couldn't we get the stam sorc treatment?

Still being punished for launch - 1.5 for some reason, also, @Wrobel is bad at his job.

"Well, at least mag nb's got the help they need... OH WAIT"
"Well, at least dark deal has been adjusted... OH WAIT"

We do have frost staves that taunt though

Ishammael · January 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Saint_Bud wrote: »

No reason to slott this in pvp. People ask for gabcloser, a real heal instead burning embers and inhale.
But yes mdk get fireleap after 2 years of asking.
But this doesent matter, cyro will die fast with this patch.

For pve endgame dd role it looks good, but for pve quest&co its same as for pvp

DK actually took a hit in terms of trials dps, and it wasn't exactly the best to begin with. The standard nerf means our dots will do less damange. Plus trap nerf etc.... so even with a harder whip DK's lose out overall.

As for pvp... Gapcloser? A non-gimmick-y heal?

Gained 8% damage from using an inferno. That's actually made magblade minor beserk useless.

This will have to be tested.

5% on whip with 8% on staff could be ridiculously huge.

Also, the commentary on sets is probably true. MDks should be running zero regen now in order to heal. Will have to rely on proc sustain or Battle Roar.

Also, if they actually fixed elf bane that could be killer.

I'm not ready to say RIP Dks yet

DKsUnite · January 2017

*** wrobel

Ghost-Shot · January 2017

DKsUnite wrote: »

*** wrobel

^

Ghost-Shot · January 2017

Ishammael wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Saint_Bud wrote: »

No reason to slott this in pvp. People ask for gabcloser, a real heal instead burning embers and inhale.
But yes mdk get fireleap after 2 years of asking.
But this doesent matter, cyro will die fast with this patch.

For pve endgame dd role it looks good, but for pve quest&co its same as for pvp

DK actually took a hit in terms of trials dps, and it wasn't exactly the best to begin with. The standard nerf means our dots will do less damange. Plus trap nerf etc.... so even with a harder whip DK's lose out overall.

As for pvp... Gapcloser? A non-gimmick-y heal?

Gained 8% damage from using an inferno. That's actually made magblade minor beserk useless.

This will have to be tested.

5% on whip with 8% on staff could be ridiculously huge.

Also, the commentary on sets is probably true. MDks should be running zero regen now in order to heal. Will have to rely on proc sustain or Battle Roar.

Also, if they actually fixed elf bane that could be killer.

I'm not ready to say RIP Dks yet

No you have to use green dragons blood now, with coagulating if you get ganked you are ***.

forzajuve212 · January 2017

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Saint_Bud wrote: »

No reason to slott this in pvp. People ask for gabcloser, a real heal instead burning embers and inhale.
But yes mdk get fireleap after 2 years of asking.
But this doesent matter, cyro will die fast with this patch.

For pve endgame dd role it looks good, but for pve quest&co its same as for pvp

DK actually took a hit in terms of trials dps, and it wasn't exactly the best to begin with. The standard nerf means our dots will do less damange. Plus trap nerf etc.... so even with a harder whip DK's lose out overall.

As for pvp... Gapcloser? A non-gimmick-y heal?

Gained 8% damage from using an inferno. That's actually made magblade minor beserk useless.

This will have to be tested.

5% on whip with 8% on staff could be ridiculously huge.

Also, the commentary on sets is probably true. MDks should be running zero regen now in order to heal. Will have to rely on proc sustain or Battle Roar.

Also, if they actually fixed elf bane that could be killer.

I'm not ready to say RIP Dks yet

No you have to use green dragons blood now, with coagulating if you get ganked you are ***.

Yea this is a really big issue that they just seemingly didnt think of

Asgari · January 2017

Im really hoping for a typo with the coag change

DKsUnite · January 2017

We have one request and it gets *** up lol

Sigtric · January 2017

I am a bit confused about the Coag change but not ready to get the pitchforks and torches just yet. Considering my mDK is almost always sitting at 30% magicka or lower.. This might just be the heals I've been looking for? LOL

I do like the Whip and Ferocious Leap changes. Standard is kinda meh but I really only use that in PVE anyway and I'm fine with it.

Clouding Swarm changes might finally be enough for me to give in to vamping my DK.

/shrug

Asgari · January 2017

DKsUnite wrote: »

We have one request and it gets *** up lol

So glad i didnt prep the dk for this update. sticking to stamplar now lmfao

omfgitsbatman · January 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

I am a bit confused about the Coag change but not ready to get the pitchforks and torches just yet. Considering my mDK is almost always sitting at 30% magicka or lower.. This might just be the heals I've been looking for? LOL

I do like the Whip and Ferocious Leap changes. Standard is kinda meh but I really only use that in PVE anyway and I'm fine with it.

Clouding Swarm changes might finally be enough for me to give in to vamping my DK.

/shrug

The standard nerf will actually be a noticable dps loss in pve. But the clouding swarm does have the potential to be pretty OP

Sigtric · January 2017

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

I am a bit confused about the Coag change but not ready to get the pitchforks and torches just yet. Considering my mDK is almost always sitting at 30% magicka or lower.. This might just be the heals I've been looking for? LOL

I do like the Whip and Ferocious Leap changes. Standard is kinda meh but I really only use that in PVE anyway and I'm fine with it.

Clouding Swarm changes might finally be enough for me to give in to vamping my DK.

/shrug

The standard nerf will actually be a noticable dps loss in pve. But the clouding swarm does have the potential to be pretty OP

Yeah, I'm not saying it wont be noticeable, just that I am not very concerned with it. That's just me personally.

SnubbS · January 2017

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Saint_Bud wrote: »

No reason to slott this in pvp. People ask for gabcloser, a real heal instead burning embers and inhale.
But yes mdk get fireleap after 2 years of asking.
But this doesent matter, cyro will die fast with this patch.

For pve endgame dd role it looks good, but for pve quest&co its same as for pvp

DK actually took a hit in terms of trials dps, and it wasn't exactly the best to begin with. The standard nerf means our dots will do less damange. Plus trap nerf etc.... so even with a harder whip DK's lose out overall.

As for pvp... Gapcloser? A non-gimmick-y heal?

If the passive works as stated -- an inferno staff increases single target damage (to all single target abilities) by 8% -- that's better than an extra 5% from Standard of Might.

Ghost-Shot · January 2017

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

We have one request and it gets *** up lol

So glad i didnt prep the dk for this update. sticking to stamplar now lmfao

< Stam DK inc...

omfgitsbatman · January 2017

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

We have one request and it gets *** up lol

So glad i didnt prep the dk for this update. sticking to stamplar now lmfao

< Stam DK inc...

This shall be known as the day they broke ghost haha

Ishammael · January 2017

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

We have one request and it gets *** up lol

So glad i didnt prep the dk for this update. sticking to stamplar now lmfao

< Stam DK inc...

This shall be known as the day they broke ghost haha

Can ISHAMMAEL stand against the storm?!

Ghost-Shot · January 2017

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

We have one request and it gets *** up lol

So glad i didnt prep the dk for this update. sticking to stamplar now lmfao

< Stam DK inc...

This shall be known as the day they broke ghost haha

I tried to hold out...

KirinBlaze · January 2017

I've never been more upset with changes to my class than I am now.

Really seems like ZoS is just telling mDK players to go *** themselves and re-roll stamina.

usmcjdking · January 2017

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Why couldn't we get the stam sorc treatment?

Still being punished for launch - 1.5 for some reason, also, @Wrobel is bad at his job.

Please.

Mag DK might be in the trashcan, but Stamplar has been in the dumpster for a very, VERY long time.

Lord_Hev · January 2017

wow WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

This must be a ****ing prank.

Ghost-Shot · January 2017

usmcjdking wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Why couldn't we get the stam sorc treatment?

Still being punished for launch - 1.5 for some reason, also, @Wrobel is bad at his job.

Please.

Mag DK might be in the trashcan, but Stamplar has been in the dumpster for a very, VERY long time.

Stamplars have been incredibly powerful in pvp for a long time, don't even try to compare them to a magicka DK.

tplink3r1 · January 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

So dragon blood now. 40k magika...pop DB whilst at 20k magika and heal for 6600? About right? But it can crit...so up to a 9k heal..oddly though the more you spam it the bigger the heal.

Cut that by half in PVP.

Ghost-Shot · January 2017

Lord_Hev wrote: »

wow WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

This must be a ****ing prank.

Unfortunately, I think its real.

Ishammael · January 2017

usmcjdking wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Why couldn't we get the stam sorc treatment?

Still being punished for launch - 1.5 for some reason, also, @Wrobel is bad at his job.

Please.

Mag DK might be in the trashcan, but Stamplar has been in the dumpster for a very, VERY long time.

Sorry mate, but you're not right about this one.

Ghost-Shot · January 2017

Ishammael wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

We have one request and it gets *** up lol

So glad i didnt prep the dk for this update. sticking to stamplar now lmfao

< Stam DK inc...

This shall be known as the day they broke ghost haha

Can ISHAMMAEL stand against the storm?!

He's our only hope!