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The bsw spell power bonus stacks with spc?

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vicius1981
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As title and sorry for my bad english:)
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  • Qbiken
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    Yes :) they stack.
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  • DHale
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    Yes it stacks. But the 20 percent proc of bsw and the 50 percent of spc still do not have a 100 up time.meaning you can't depend on it.
    Edited by DHale on January 1, 2017 3:27PM
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  • vicius1981
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    Oh good,thx.time to farm my second bsw sets for my templar.
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  • paulsimonps
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    DHale wrote: »
    Yes it stacks. But the 20 percent proc of bsw and the 50 percent of spc still do not have a 100 up time.meaning you can't depend on it.

    Most DPS's I have seen gets about a 70-75% up time on BSW and around a 90%+ up time on SPC and so people do rely on it quite significantly and without SPC for example the DPS of a Trial group would lower quite a bit. BSW even with its downtime adds a lot of damage. Its why its so sought after.
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  • VarilRau
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    Anyone crunched the numbers on what will be the thing after the monster helm change?
    5 bsw+5sm or 5 bsw+5 tbs, or the current meta with ilmabris set+IA jewelry?

    Maybe even drop vMA weapon and use Kena head or shoulder for +spell dmg and +2% more stats from the undaunted..
    Or a penetration set+one other set..
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  • Izaki
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    paulsimonps wrote: »
    DHale wrote: »
    Yes it stacks. But the 20 percent proc of bsw and the 50 percent of spc still do not have a 100 up time.meaning you can't depend on it.

    Most DPS's I have seen gets about a 70-75% up time on BSW and around a 90%+ up time on SPC and so people do rely on it quite significantly and without SPC for example the DPS of a Trial group would lower quite a bit. BSW even with its downtime adds a lot of damage. Its why its so sought after.

    The max possible uptime on BSW is 66.6%... It has a cooldown remember.
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  • EldritchPenguin
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    IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »
    paulsimonps wrote: »
    DHale wrote: »
    Yes it stacks. But the 20 percent proc of bsw and the 50 percent of spc still do not have a 100 up time.meaning you can't depend on it.

    Most DPS's I have seen gets about a 70-75% up time on BSW and around a 90%+ up time on SPC and so people do rely on it quite significantly and without SPC for example the DPS of a Trial group would lower quite a bit. BSW even with its downtime adds a lot of damage. Its why its so sought after.

    The max possible uptime on BSW is 66.6%... It has a cooldown remember.
    Which is not only an entirely realistic uptime to maintain on it, but is also enough uptime to make it more powerful than Law of Julianos.
    Edited by EldritchPenguin on January 2, 2017 11:01PM
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  • Izaki
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    EldritchPenguin wrote: »
    IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »
    paulsimonps wrote: »
    DHale wrote: »
    Yes it stacks. But the 20 percent proc of bsw and the 50 percent of spc still do not have a 100 up time.meaning you can't depend on it.

    Most DPS's I have seen gets about a 70-75% up time on BSW and around a 90%+ up time on SPC and so people do rely on it quite significantly and without SPC for example the DPS of a Trial group would lower quite a bit. BSW even with its downtime adds a lot of damage. Its why its so sought after.

    The max possible uptime on BSW is 66.6%... It has a cooldown remember.
    Which is not only an entirely realistic uptime to maintain on it, but is also enough uptime to make it more powerful than Law of Julianos.

    At 50% uptime BSW is already on par with Julianos!
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  • darthsithis
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    VarilRau wrote: »
    Anyone crunched the numbers on what will be the thing after the monster helm change?
    5 bsw+5sm or 5 bsw+5 tbs, or the current meta with ilmabris set+IA jewelry?

    Maybe even drop vMA weapon and use Kena head or shoulder for +spell dmg and +2% more stats from the undaunted..
    Or a penetration set+one other set..

    What do you think of maybe 4 bsw, 4 aether, 2x grothdar, bsw Fire staff And aether lightning to proc debuf first tick of channel?

    Just a thought.
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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    paulsimonps wrote: »
    DHale wrote: »
    Yes it stacks. But the 20 percent proc of bsw and the 50 percent of spc still do not have a 100 up time.meaning you can't depend on it.

    Most DPS's I have seen gets about a 70-75% up time on BSW and around a 90%+ up time on SPC and so people do rely on it quite significantly and without SPC for example the DPS of a Trial group would lower quite a bit. BSW even with its downtime adds a lot of damage. Its why its so sought after.

    Hate to say it paul, but nobody is getting 75% uptime on BSW. 90% uptime on SPC is optimistic, but possible.
  • omfgitsbatman
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    Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
    paulsimonps wrote: »
    DHale wrote: »
    Yes it stacks. But the 20 percent proc of bsw and the 50 percent of spc still do not have a 100 up time.meaning you can't depend on it.

    Most DPS's I have seen gets about a 70-75% up time on BSW and around a 90%+ up time on SPC and so people do rely on it quite significantly and without SPC for example the DPS of a Trial group would lower quite a bit. BSW even with its downtime adds a lot of damage. Its why its so sought after.

    Hate to say it paul, but nobody is getting 75% uptime on BSW. 90% uptime on SPC is optimistic, but possible.

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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    darthsithis wrote: »
    VarilRau wrote: »
    Anyone crunched the numbers on what will be the thing after the monster helm change?
    5 bsw+5sm or 5 bsw+5 tbs, or the current meta with ilmabris set+IA jewelry?

    Maybe even drop vMA weapon and use Kena head or shoulder for +spell dmg and +2% more stats from the undaunted..
    Or a penetration set+one other set..

    What do you think of maybe 4 bsw, 4 aether, 2x grothdar, bsw Fire staff And aether lightning to proc debuf first tick of channel?

    Just a thought.

    @darthsithis

    I have run this build. It is one of those builds that looks fantastic on paper. (You can do the same type of thing with Moondancer instead of Aether to really stack spell damage), but in practice it is not as good as I hoped.

    In PVP, having BSW on one bar can be very useful because you can time when it procs for some serious burst. In PVE, it is all about % uptime throughout the fight. Everyone I know (myself included) has found that when you only have BSW on one bar in PVE, your up time really suffers. If it gets to low, it is simply not worth running

    Also, that build only works if you get 2 very specific staffs in sharp (BSW Inferno and Lightning Infal). I have both, but pretty sure that puts me in a small minority. I would never tell anyone to run a staff that isnt sharp, no matter what the set is. Sharp is wildly OP, more so than any set for PVE DPS.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    omfgitsbatman wrote: »
    Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
    paulsimonps wrote: »
    DHale wrote: »
    Yes it stacks. But the 20 percent proc of bsw and the 50 percent of spc still do not have a 100 up time.meaning you can't depend on it.

    Most DPS's I have seen gets about a 70-75% up time on BSW and around a 90%+ up time on SPC and so people do rely on it quite significantly and without SPC for example the DPS of a Trial group would lower quite a bit. BSW even with its downtime adds a lot of damage. Its why its so sought after.

    Hate to say it paul, but nobody is getting 75% uptime on BSW. 90% uptime on SPC is optimistic, but possible.

    I have to agree with the elf, boss (see it's funny because he had a toon named Angry Little Elf) :p

    @omfgitsbatman
    Tick tick, you are the second person in two days to bring that name up. haha. Might just have to change it back.
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