It's Time for Achievements to be Account-Wide

AFrostWolf · December 2016

It's time for everything to be account-wide based on the direction of this game. There is no Replay-ability.

DorianDragonRaze · December 2016

Not all, but many achievements should definitely become Account-Wide.
And this is why:
One can have a thief/assassin character which is going to play through corresponding guilds quests.
Also, one can have another character which is a crafter and a kind of a completionist, but the character would never finish DB quest line, for example.
Other characters could be more successful in PvP. Or trials. Or fishing. Etc...
But one is never able to see the overall achievements progression!
Shor's bones! That's ridiculous!!
ZOS created tons of activities and achievements, and that's cool, but how do we see total % of what we've achieved in the game as players (not particular characters)??
Are we obligated to buy ESO on Steam for that?
Are we expected to re-play everything with single character??
DO IT FINALLY!

SunfireKnight86 · December 2016

You already get the dyes and items from the achievements. Are you mad your alt can't use the titles too? It's an alt. You didn't use your level 1 DK to become emperor, ergo, you didn't earn it.

Lunarhound · December 2016

Honestly, this doesn't have to be a divisive issue. A good compromise would be to have two versions of the achievement window that you can switch between: "account-wide" and "this character". Looking at the account-wide window would show you all of the achievements that you've earned across your entire account, with the names of each character that has a particular achievement listed beside that achievement. Looking at the "this character" window would show you something more like what you see now. Since many achievements (like those tied to dyes) already function on an account-wide level anyway, as far as benefits are concerned, doing things this way, achievements could continue to be tied to individual characters, but would also effectively be account wide.

This doesn't address titles, of course. My own personal view is that titles should remain specific to individual characters, but that's just me.

Rastafariel · December 2016

Achievements should totally be account wide. There is no way my main is going to do everything, plus he wont for RP reasons.

Yet I will complete all in the game on 3+ different characters.

Please make achievements account wide.

newtinmpls · December 2016

The_Sadist wrote: »

The reason I initially quit what feels like forever ago was predominately for this reason. Grinding the same achievements across 8 characters isn't content, it's tedious and really takes away from the game.

If you don't' like doing ... whatever ... then don't do it.

I admit I'm missing the point of all these "shared" whatnot.

If it's chess, it's Player, not piece.

This is a MMORPG, so it's an MMO that uses characters, not teams or "players".

DiteHart · December 2016

Lunarhound wrote: »

Honestly, this doesn't have to be a divisive issue. A good compromise would be to have two versions of the achievement window that you can switch between: "account-wide" and "this character". Looking at the account-wide window would show you all of the achievements that you've earned across your entire account, with the names of each character that has a particular achievement listed beside that achievement. Looking at the "this character" window would show you something more like what you see now. Since many achievements (like those tied to dyes) already function on an account-wide level anyway, as far as benefits are concerned, doing things this way, achievements could continue to be tied to individual characters, but would also effectively be account wide.

This doesn't address titles, of course. My own personal view is that titles should remain specific to individual characters, but that's just me.

I'd be totally happy with this. As long as I can see what all I've experienced that the game has to offer, I'd personally be happy.

newtinmpls wrote: »

If you don't' like doing ... whatever ... then don't do it.

I admit I'm missing the point of all these "shared" whatnot.

If it's chess, it's Player, not piece.

This is a MMORPG, so it's an MMO that uses characters, not teams or "players".

The main point (for some people, at least) is that it isn't necessarily that we don't want to do something, it's that we don't want to do it multiple times. The argument is that someone shouldn't be barred from something just because they did it on a different character.

Of course, exactly how we view it still varies based on what all we think should be shared. I don't really need all the skyshards to carry over--I totally understand that having a level 3 with 100 skill points seems a little too much.
But, I can totally see how something cosmetic like titles should be shared. As someone who likes to create a bunch of characters that I only really bring out during Holiday Events or something, I totally understand wanting to make a funny or cool character without having to do ALL the work all over again, especially when I'm not using it on my main.
I mean, it does kinda suck to have to go through every delve in the game with a new character OR pay 3500 Crowns for a Dora the Explorer joke.

pizzaow · December 2016

Aquanova wrote: »

Along with achievements I'd also like to add recipes and traits research.

This would be an excellent feature for ESO plus. I'd also like to add motifs.

... I made the mistake of becoming a 9-trait blacksmith on one character and a 9-trait clothier/woodworker on another. Having just purchased the frost caster motif, it's a little annoying that only one of my characters can use it :-/

SunfireKnight86 · December 2016

Not making store brought motifs account wide is on par with buying that stupid elk and only getting it for one character. It's arbitrary, alienates the player for no reason, and discourages people from making the purchase.

brandonv516 · December 2016

SunfireKnight86 wrote: »

Not making store brought motifs account wide is on par with buying that stupid elk and only getting it for one character. It's arbitrary, alienates the player for no reason, and discourages people from making the purchase.

The elk only applies to one character? Wow...

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO · December 2016

Maybe having the achievement to be account wide is a bad idea because some of them are quest related. However, a good work around it to make the achievement awards to be account wide (like dyes, titles).

Dragonnord · December 2016

nordsavage wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

I don't agree. Why a character that didn't do something must be rewarded as if he/she did it?

The character did not earn it you did. If achievements were account wide by default not one person would be making threads on the forums for character based achievements of this I am certain because you would have no reason to question it because it is non-conflicting and logical.

With your criteria, that you say about "The character did not earn it you did", then ALL your characters should get ALL achievements and ALL other stuff unlocked because YOU did them, and not only achievements but, also, if you finished a quest then it should count to all your characters because you did it, right? Also skyshards and skill points because you found them and you gained them, right? Also mounts speed, stamina and carrying capacity, because you tought the mount, not your characters, right? And finally, obviously, the veteran Maelstrom Arena; if your Sorcerer finishes it, it counts to all your other classes, right?... ... ...

I'm sorry but that's not how this game works.

SunfireKnight86 · December 2016

brandonv516 wrote: »

SunfireKnight86 wrote: »

Not making store brought motifs account wide is on par with buying that stupid elk and only getting it for one character. It's arbitrary, alienates the player for no reason, and discourages people from making the purchase.

The elk only applies to one character? Wow...

No. It applies to the account, as it should. As should store bought motifs. (As should all motifs and research, honestly)

Entegre · December 2016

With my templar I am a patriot and done alliance war, with my nightblade I joined dark brotherhood, I don't want anything I didn't do matched with my character. Separate characters should feel like individuals, with their own story and strengths. I would even like separate friend lists for each toon, and please show character names on chat instead of player names like j1mp088.

acw37162 · December 2016

Any achievement tied to furniture crafting or housing needs to be shared across your account

AlnilamE · December 2016

If you want achievements to be account wide, make only one character. Problem solved.

That said, I would not be opposed to an "Achievement aggregator" on the Character select screen, as long as each character keeps their achievements as they are now.

And I say that As someone who got the New Life Achievements on 7 characters, and I'm going to get the Magnus one on at least 2.

POps75p · December 2016

hell no, I've done vma about 50 times on my sorc, and the other would not have any chance of completing it, so why should they have stormproof?

jlboozer · December 2016

Atleast the titles..

SquareSausage · December 2016

Its all a matter of perception.

Some people see their characters as individuals, some see the player as the individual and a character as merely one part of the player.

Im all for achievements account wide, as I am of the latter persuasion. However I do agree with people on the other side of the fence with regard titles, as they are dependent on a character being built a certain way to achieve.

As mentioned before an account wide achievement and character specific tab could be adopted to pacify both sides>

With titles, how about if you complete it on one character you get the achievement account wide but get another title which isnt say stormproof, but lets people know your other character did it, like say splashproof (lol, not being serious) or a symbol beisde your name, you get me? Same with all other titles.

I'm also of the opinion achievements should have more value, sure a title and a dye is fine and dandy, but accumulating both account and character achievement points should reward you with bonuses to play. This would give all content more gameplay as it would actually be worthwhile completing achievements with no dye or title reward other than for completionists, which currently is already very hard to do with one character.

pizzaow · December 2016

It is a little inconsistent that your level 1 toon can put on the Dro-m'Athra skin, but not the title...

KimberlyannKitsuragi · December 2016

My guildemates are sending me stuff just to help me get achievements since I plan to do everything possible on just one toon. It's been very enriching and fun. I've really bonded and I love my toon the more I play

Ackwalan · December 2016

I would rather have the crown purchases be for both NA and EU accounts. After all, they use the same pool, why shouldn't a purchase on NA also work for EU.

Abeille · December 2016

Lunarhound wrote: »

This doesn't address titles, of course. My own personal view is that titles should remain specific to individual characters, but that's just me.

Hm...

What if alts could wear the titles gotten by other characters, but they would show on a different color? Maybe they could be more transparent. That would say "hey, I have this title, I did this thing, but I I did it on a different character!".

I think that it would be okay for some grind-based achievements that are solely dependent on THE PLAYER'S time and not on knowing the ins and outs of your character's class and build to be account-wide. It would be nice if any and all of my characters could contribute to the fishing or the animal trophy achievements.

Artis · December 2016

CarbonX wrote: »

I'm sorry but that's not how this game works.

Exactly! And that's the problem. If it worked this way already, nobody would ask to change anything.
p.s. granted they don't ask to get all skyshards etc, just the rng/grind achievements and the ability to see the progress in all unique achievements.

pureskills101 · December 2016

I would also like to see them account wide I like this idea as it adds prestige so to speak the actual account rather than the character Guild Wars 2 do this extremely well.

newtinmpls · January 2017

DiteHart wrote: »

The main point (for some people, at least) is that it isn't necessarily that we don't want to do something, it's that we don't want to do it multiple times. The argument is that someone shouldn't be barred from something just because they did it on a different character.

You aren't barred from anything. Each character earns their way.. or doesn't. Choice, work, consequences.

DiteHart wrote: »

But, I can totally see how something cosmetic like titles should be shared.

This is exactly something that shouldn't be shared.

My lvl 3 lost Imperial child raised by Argonians has no right to the "cosmetic title" my noble and liniaged dunmer earned by killing all the generals that spawn at dolmens.

brandonv516 · January 2017

newtinmpls wrote: »

My lvl 3 lost Imperial child raised by Argonians has no right to the "cosmetic title" my noble and liniaged dunmer earned by killing all the generals that spawn at dolmens.

Or the cosmetic skins, mementos, pets, etc. that your dunmer also earned, but the child still has access.

Iluvrien · January 2017

brandonv516 wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

My lvl 3 lost Imperial child raised by Argonians has no right to the "cosmetic title" my noble and liniaged dunmer earned by killing all the generals that spawn at dolmens.

Or the cosmetic skins, mementos, pets, etc. that your dunmer also earned, but the child still has access.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I would prefer more stuff to be character-specific, not less. However, I'll just have to settle for keeping the current balance, I guess.

Thybrinena · January 2017

I can see both sides of the arguments here. I suspect achievements being account wide and titles character gated would be the fairest course of action according to the majority in this thread. I, personally, don't have a strong opinion one way or the other.

leothedino · January 2017

I think titles should be limited to the character that earned it, and everything else account-wide. Some, if not most, of the achievements are too tedious to repeat. I am putting in the time (and skill in some circumstances), the person behind the keyboard and not just the character I created. Achievements should be account-bound.