Precise vs. Sharpened daggers

Bobby_V_Rockit · December 2016

Alrighty, I got my hands on two precise spriggan daggers and the 3 peice jewellery set but I am currently running 2 sharp leki daggers and 3 robust agility. I lose about 200 weapon damage but gain 7% crit chance (bringing in to 3122 and 81.9% respectively).

Is this, iyo, worth it? Sharp spriggan daggers are near impossible to find and even harder to buy.

My non-spriggan stam sorc dps build is in the spoiler.

Edit: I play on console so dont have addon opportunity and so far as I could tell the dps looked a little higher in overworld with Spriggan set. Plus I'm counting on the higher crit chance to proc surge heals.

Medium Head: Velidreth's guise (inf)
Heavy Shoulders: Velidreth's arm cops (divines)
Med. Chest: TBS (div)
Med. Waist: TBS (div)
Med. Legs: TBS (div)
Med. Arms: TBS (div)
Med. Boots: TBS (div)

All legendary (6m:1h) with gold stamina enchantments.

Leki's Dagger: sharpened, wpn dmg
Leki's Dagger: sharpened, crushing
Bow of Infallible Aether: sharpened, disease

All legendary with gold enchants

3x Agility: robust, weapon damage

Skill bar 1: blood craze, expert hunter/vigor, rapid strikes, hurricane, bound armaments, Flawless Dawnbreaker

Skill bar 2: endless hail, rearming trap, poison injection, crit surge, bound armaments, Shooting Star (group) reviving barrier (solo)

Champ Points:
Red: 89 elemental defender, 78 hardy, 15 quick recovery, 5 thick skinned

Green: 100 warlord, 87 mooncalf

Blue: 89 Mighty, 53 thaumaturge, 35 precise strikes, 10 piercing

Mag: 11703 (recov: 565)
Health: 18826 (recov: 444)
Stam: 37032 (recov: 909)
Weap dam: 3362
Crit: 74.1%
Spell resist: 17529
Phys resist: 18849
Crit resist: 0

Mundus: Thief and Shadow

Rev Rielle · December 2016

There's sadly no simple answer to your question. Solo, it's likely sharpened will be better for you, though in some group situations precise may be better.

Have a look at this thread; it speaks a bit about precise and sharpened, it might help you find the answer you want: Nirnhoned, Precise & Sharpened

Prabooo · December 2016

the crit chance gain is more significant that the 200 loss in weapon damage, in my opinion

Bobby_V_Rockit · December 2016

Thanks guys, guess it'll be just a matter of playing through to see. But so far it looks as though precise daggers with 4k pen from spriggan set is the way to go

ryanborror · December 2016

Spriggan’s is good for solo play if you are using sharpened weapons. Sadly I think you are loosing more than just weapon damage as you will have less penetration with 5 Spriggan’s than you would with sharpened weapons.

Qbiken · December 2016

If conparing lets say NMG (night mother's gaze) and spriggan (both are good sets for a stamsorc), you want sharpened spriggan daggers in order to get more penetration than a pair of sharpened NMG daggers (lets say you want to run vMSA (veteran Maelstrom Arena) where the penetration from spriggan is really nice). Running with precise spriggan is a bit of a "waste" in my opinion if it is penetration you're after. Some of you might say that "in a trial where the boss resistance is at 0 precise are better". That is true, but why use a set with a 5-piece bonus that gives penetration then, if the resistance already is at 0? That is the main reason I don't see the usage of spriggan in a trial, BUT it's really nice in vMSA.

Conclusion: Use sharpened spriggan (if using weapons/daggers) or swap to NMG if you want some extra penetration if you don't have sharpened spriggan.

Bobby_V_Rockit · December 2016

Buuuuuuut, I crit 7% more, gain an extra 500 stamina and only lose 1k penetration, as opposed to using two sharpened daggers and robust agility... so unless 1k pen is worth more than 7% crit and 500 more stamina it should work out right?

Edit: lets assume sharpened spriggan daggers are off the table as I can find them, buy them or even upgrade them anyway.

Rev Rielle · December 2016

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Buuuuuuut, I crit 7% more, gain an extra 500 stamina and only lose 1k penetration, as opposed to using two sharpened daggers and robust agility... so unless 1k pen is worth more than 7% crit and 500 more stamina it should work out right?

Edit: lets assume sharpened spriggan daggers are off the table as I can find them, buy them or even upgrade them anyway.

Either will work out. Honestly, neither is going to 'break' your build, so to speak. And other than looking at the numbers (if you have such addons) you're likely not to notice any difference at all.
Just try them out and see which you like better.

Dubhliam · December 2016

Sharpened win.

Bobby_V_Rockit · December 2016

Asayre found the following (November 2015) which pleases me:

2H

PvE

Bosses (Resistance ~18k): Sharpened Maul

Mobs (Resistance ~9k): Sharpened/Precise Greatsword

PvP

Light armour targets (Resistance ~10k): Precise Greatsword

Medium armour targets (Resistance ~13k): Sharpened/Precise Greatsword

Heavy armour targets (Resistance ~20k): Sharpened Maul

DW

PvE

Bosses (Resistance ~18k): Two Sharpened Mace

Mobs (Resistance ~9k): Two Sharpened Swords or Two Precise Daggers (Combination 7, 10, 12, 13, 14 are viable depending on exact Critical Chance and Critical Modifier)

PvP

Light armour targets (Resistance ~10k): Two Precise Sword or Two Precise Dagger

Medium armour targets (Resistance ~13k): Two Sharpened Sword Two Precise Dagger

Heavy armour targets (Resistance ~20k): Two Sharpened Mace

Bobby_V_Rockit · December 2016

2H

PvE

Bosses (Resistance ~18k): Sharpened Maul

Mobs (Resistance ~9k): Sharpened/Precise Greatsword

PvP

Light armour targets (Resistance ~10k): Precise Greatsword

Medium armour targets (Resistance ~13k): Sharpened/Precise Greatsword

Heavy armour targets (Resistance ~20k): Sharpened Maul

DW

PvE

Bosses (Resistance ~18k): Two Sharpened Mace

Mobs (Resistance ~9k): Two Sharpened Swords or Two Precise Daggers (Combination 7, 10, 12, 13, 14 are viable depending on exact Critical Chance and Critical Modifier)

PvP

Light armour targets (Resistance ~10k): Two Precise Sword or Two Precise Dagger

Medium armour targets (Resistance ~13k): Two Sharpened Sword Two Precise Dagger

Heavy armour targets (Resistance ~20k): Two Sharpened Mace