Nyx2 wrote: »

ObsidianMichi wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

So I go to the inn to check if it was there and no it hadn't spawn ... So I start robbing NPC's for loot I could sell.

Then I noticed I had a few hatetells and threads about ruining someones RP experience and they reported me FOR PLAYING THE GAME.

Robbing NPCs in a crowded inn, what did you expect to happen? Everyone has the freedom to make stupid choices but then you really shouldn't complain about people being bothered with something so unnecessary like an inept thief who traps himself in the inn. They overreacted but I bet you wasted not one moment putting yourself in their shoes to see how that ruins their experience. No, you're just the innocent casual wanting to play the game, right?

See, the good MMO roleplayers just incorporate that kind of stuff into their rp. They become two people sitting at a bar trying to have a conversation as hell explodes around them in the background.

What @Knootewood described is normal for this MMO. It's going to happen a lot, if not all the time, depending on which zone you're in. If they can't roll with normal player behavior in an MMO and have a sense of humor about it then they'll have a rough go of it. An MMO is a shared space, unless you're in a zone that isn't frequently trafficked or an instanced area, you have zero guarantees that your rp won't be interrupted by some random. You can't force the world to conform to you or all the surrounding players to be respectful of your space. There are no RP servers in this game and those with RP servers tend to get crashed anyway because they often have large populations that stick around.

The smart RPers who want their own space are out off the beaten path, hanging out in the Riften tavern. Or places that don't get a lot of player traffic and have few quests associated with them. Sentinel is very popular with RPers, for instance, because no one goes there. There are plenty of taverns/inns in tiny towns/quest zones that no one ever visits or sticks around in. If the RPers are in the starter zones or the inn at Wayrest where the zone is highly trafficked and are complaining about someone ruining their time then that's on them.

It is not worth it to have this fight with every player that wanders in and is oblivious, yet there are RPers that get snitty about people disrupting their time and insist that everyone behave by the rules they've carved out for themselves or else it ruins their immersion. They are, however, playing a game within a game. Other players do not have access to their game or the rules of this world they've defined for themselves, and they wouldn't be beholden to it anyway because they didn't sign on for it.

For the sake of their own mental health, some flexibility on the part of the RPers is necessary. If they cannot handle this type of disruption then they should be in a traditional P&P RPG with a game master and in a controlled environment.

What he was doing gets a little too unreal and there is nothing really to interact with other than to get out of the inn and go elsewhere. He is the one who got himself trapped in there like a fool. This doesn't even have anything to do with roleplay, you should be able to expect a minimum amount of respect to each other. I would have apologized and If they then continue bothering, he would have something to complain about but certainly not their initial frustration.

They shouldn't freak out and report players just because they do /hammerwall or something but if you keep purposefully disrupting others then that has nothing to do with playing the game. That's just being an a$$hole. Nobody can make demands on how others should behave but that doesn't mean you can't be respectful. And that is something a lot of people lack in this game.

AuldWolf wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

The problem is that role play in general is very appealing to the more self centered, shallow, and egotistical side of our community. You have all types. Actors, authors, spectators [...]

And this is why you couldn't get into that roleplaying guild that you really wanted into, and this is why we have rules. Look at this, really. You've mentioned professions which require an extreme level of introspection (authors especially) and you've labelled them as shallow. This just seeps with ugly, cancerous envy. It's a sickness. I find that those with no talent just turn to trying to scapegoat roleplayers, doing all they can to destroy them at every turn. Now that is shallow, sefl-centred, conceited, and sociopathic if anything is.

And this is why roleplaying guilds have rules, to keep people like this out. Manipulative divas who seek to cause drama, people who don't truly want to roleplay but just want to be the centre of attention for the sake of their bloated, overripe ego. And people with a truly nasty side who, if spurned, would do exactly this sort of thing.

It may not be nice to be left out in the cold, but most of the time you only have yourself to thank for it. I can really understand why roleplaying guilds have these rules. And really, given the evidence in this thread? I'd think everyone else should, too.

Keep projecting your personality flaws onto writers, though. I'm sure it'll bear fruit some day. Or you could stop and just move on, realising that roleplaying isn't for you. There's that option, too, should you be reasonable and benevolent enough to take it, rather than going on these quixotic missions. Is it really so bad that some people don't like you? Is your egomania truly that out of hand?

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

The problem is that role play in general is very appealing to the more self centered, shallow, and egotistical side of our community. You have all types. Actors, authors, spectators, all with their own reason for role playing, whether that's scratching the control freak itch, masturbating their ego, trying to fit in and have a sense of community and camaraderie. It's a very diverse community, and that causes friction.

I think you pretty much just have to do what you do, be honest about what you want out of the game, and let likeminded people find you.

Good roleplay is a moving target, and it means something different for everyone, but there's always someone else that shares your values.

Balamoor wrote: »

I use to defend RPers.

Then I realized what drama lamas and Control freaks 99% of them were.

They are sorta like Video games answer to LARPERS.

Balamoor wrote: »

I use to defend RPers.

Then I realized what drama lamas and Control freaks 99% of them were.

They are sorta like Video games answer to LARPERS.

Ghettokid wrote: »

I have had bad bad experience with these RP-guilds irl. One day I am happy young man, then I joined one LARP-guild and week after that I am pregnant princess of Finland with seventeen swedish lovers.