Another mount around $30 in real money WTH - Great Elk

NewBlacksmurf · December 2016

Man so this company very often tics me off with the crown prices

I know it's nothing people are forced to buy and I behave accordingly. Here's the gripe tho

There is little to nothing highly cosmetically appeasing that's attainable outside of real money.

That's my frustration

Voxicity · December 2016

Yeah that seems so weird to me. I'd love an elk mount and all but there's not even anything remotely special or appealing about it other than the fact it's an elk

JD2013 · December 2016

Sub and save crowns?

I've got like 27,000 of them hanging around. Or pick up crowns on sale?

I get that the price is high, that's not a debate. 4,500 crowns for a mount is certainly excessive. But they wouldn't charge it if people weren't paying it.

quake89 · December 2016

The appeal to me is not many people will she'll out the 4.5k crowns and so I'll be sitting there on my elk like a boss

bottleofsyrup · December 2016

4,500 clowns? HAHA. Oh my god. That's even more than the dro-m'Athra Senche. Clown Crates sure made you greedy, ZOS!

Uphz · December 2016

I guess this is what to expect for future mounts too? Since the elk is nothing special imo. Not compared to the senche and even that one was cheaper.

Wolfchild07 · December 2016

I was going to buy it, but not now. I'll save my crowns, thanks ZOS. So greedy.

NewBlacksmurf · December 2016

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Yeah that seems so weird to me. I'd love an elk mount and all but there's not even anything remotely special or appealing about it other than the fact it's an elk

And here's the thing. I'm not saying don't offer that stuff but here I am a person who does buy crowns monthly either be it from ESO plus (Xbox issues aside) and when crowns are on sale I'll buy at least 5k if not more.

I play tho to complete stuff. I'm not a completionist but ya know after doing all the original quests in the three factions and guild quests up until the last paid dlc DB.....you'd think that the rewards would cosmetically outweigh any paid content.

So I do expect crown items to be awesome but how dumb was it that the three hero costumes was crown only and not a reward for getting the hero title upon completing quests.

......I think I'm getting to that $&@-it point.....

Elsonso · December 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Man so this company very often tics me off with the crown prices

I know it's nothing people are forced to buy and I behave accordingly. Here's the gripe tho

There is little to nothing highly cosmetically appeasing that's attainable outside of real money.

That's my frustration

A couple of thoughts.

An old thought is that the higher the price, the less of them we will see in the game. I like scarcity in mounts. When I see one like this, I think it should be unusual and not common. The atro mounts are way too common, so I am hoping that people get bored with them. Anyway, high price means fewer of them in the game, more special when you see one.

A new thought is to just be glad they are not in Crown Crates, where 4500 Crowns would look like a deal for half, or more, of the people who try to get them.

Runs · December 2016

I'm surprised someone didn't make this thread earlier, the price was leaked yesterday on reddit. 20 dollar mount if the crowns were purchased on sale. I probably wont get it, but that depends on how many I see out and about.

But I don't think most of us can complain. We complain about crown crate mounts, and how we should be able to buy them for a set price, whatever that price is. Well here is this price, and it's not a gamble.

TheImperfect · December 2016

I was shocked at the price, just logged in to check. Was expecting 2500 - 3000. I'm gonna have to think about this. I haven't ruled it out but it's a lot of money to me for a virtual elk when my Mum just picked me up Dishonored 2 for 20 pounds.

NewBlacksmurf · December 2016

Runs wrote: »

I'm surprised someone didn't make this thread earlier, the price was leaked yesterday on reddit. 20 dollar mount if the crowns were purchased on sale. I probably wont get it, but that depends on how many I see out and about.

But I don't think most of us can complain. We complain about crown crate mounts, and how we should be able to buy them for a set price, whatever that price is. Well here is this price, and it's not a gamble.

@Runs
The mount cost more than the whole game.
The mount costs more than the DLC pack

SantieClaws · December 2016

Santie she would have liked a walking hat rack yes.

But oh no not at a price so high it could touch the very moons in the sky.

2,500 shiny coins would have been the limit for this one. Price too high and lose the sale yes.

Khajiit she does not look for or expect the bargains but she also knows that a hat rack should not cost as much as the entire city of Hews Bane.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

luen79rwb17_ESO · December 2016

There goes ZOS Christmas spirit guys! Enjoy LOL

Abeille · December 2016

Admittedly, if I had a character that needed it to have their concept complete, I would most likely get it.

But since the character I had in mind just "sorta fits", I would only get it if it was for the standard limited time price (2500). Next!

Dracindo · December 2016

Agreed. There are things that I would love to buy, but it's simply not worth the money.

I, and many others, will make an exception, though, if they were to offer dragon pets / mounts.
I don't care for the lore. There are more things in this game that make no sense either, so why not make that exception too?
If lore's really that important:
"Necromancers attempted to revive dragons once more, and finally succeeded." Make a quest around it that people can purchase with crowns and the reward is a young dragon mount. One that's still too young to fly, but big enough to ride.

Just do it ZOS, and watch the river glow in gold.

Elsonso · December 2016

quake89 wrote: »

The appeal to me is not many people will she'll out the 4.5k crowns and so I'll be sitting there on my elk like a boss

It is a cool mount. I would definitely spend 4500 Crowns on this, just based on what I see in the preview. It will be interesting to see how it performs in the game. They can always ruin it with some dorky animation or sound, like they did with one of the wolf mounts.

My problem is that I buy mounts for characters, not just to have the mount. I have a couple of mounts that I just bought for the sake of buying, the Ice Horse being one, and I don't use them like I thought I would. I decided that if I do not have a character that will immediately use the mount, I don't buy it. I have no characters that will use an Elk mount, not that I don't wish I did.

This will return only in Crown Crates, so once I decide to not have the mount, it is a Forever Decision. I don't expect this will change my decision, but before Crown Crates, I never had to think about it. It is possible that this is why they priced it at 4500 Crowns, but seriously, this mount looks pretty cool.

Phinix1 · December 2016

They want more for this plain, boring moose mount than the Dro'Mathra space panther?

ZOS, you've already created a prohibitive wealth gap that excludes the majority of loyal customers.

Why not just call it "Gambling Addicted Exclusive Attention Craving Whale Milking Online?"

Just throw this and a bunch of pay to win crap on the casino already and be done with us.

SolarCat02 · December 2016

I budgeted 3000 Crowns, with the expectation it would only be 2500 like the other limited mounts, and I was really excited and couldn't wait until it was released. But not at this price tag, forget that!

I have over 6000 Crowns in my account from the subscription, so it's not that it's not affordable. I just don't see the point of wasting Crowns like that.

I guess I will wait to see the costs of the Crown housing next. And those will probably be 50,000 Crowns a pop and I will just cancel my subscription and use my stockpiled subscription Crowns to buy the DLCs in case I still want to play with friends?

I don't know, I am at a loss here. I run a guild, I love my guild, they are why I still play because I don't want to let them down. But I don't know how much longer I can keep playing at the rate things are dialing up here.

I understand that ZOS is a business, and they are here to make money. I don't fault that! But when it's this obvious that management is putting so much effort into squeezing the playerbase for every last penny in every possible avenue...

That's not fun. That's not a game to me. That's a giant flashing neon Danger sign.

Jim_Pipp · December 2016

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

There goes ZOS Christmas spirit guys! Enjoy LOL

Being greedy in the days before Christmas? I expect ZOS to be visited by three ghosts the night before christmas.

JD2013 · December 2016

Dracindo wrote: »

Agreed. There are things that I would love to buy, but it's simply not worth the money.

I, and many others, will make an exception, though, if they were to offer dragon pets / mounts.
I don't care for the lore. There are more things in this game that make no sense either, so why not make that exception too?
If lore's really that important:
"Necromancers attempted to revive dragons once more, and finally succeeded." Make a quest around it that people can purchase with crowns and the reward is a young dragon mount. One that's still too young to fly, but big enough to ride.

Just do it ZOS, and watch the river glow in gold.

There are no young dragons. They simply exist.

Dragons are basically gods. Unless you are a Dragonborn who knows how to shout in dragon language - there's no way you'd get to ride one.

The Vestige isn't dragonborn.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

NewBlacksmurf · December 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Man so this company very often tics me off with the crown prices

I know it's nothing people are forced to buy and I behave accordingly. Here's the gripe tho

There is little to nothing highly cosmetically appeasing that's attainable outside of real money.

That's my frustration

A couple of thoughts.

An old thought is that the higher the price, the less of them we will see in the game. I like scarcity in mounts. When I see one like this, I think it should be unusual and not common. The atro mounts are way too common, so I am hoping that people get bored with them. Anyway, high price means fewer of them in the game, more special when you see one.

A new thought is to just be glad they are not in Crown Crates, where 4500 Crowns would look like a deal for half, or more, of the people who try to get them.

@lordrichter

I personally disagree with both ideas you shared below.
Specifically: the idea that a higher price means less will be in the game. That's proven not to be accurate.

The idea that at least it's not in crown crates. Crown crates are a terrible way to offer paid content regardless of type

I have absolutely no issue with ZOS charging for stuff. I have a specific issue with the chosen price points in context to the actual game, dlc and what isn't available. I'd even thrown in ESO plus cost because the actual concept behind ESO plus crowns are to give players who choose to sub the opportunity to save crowns and buy either cosmetic things or consumables.

Here's the reality of it all.
1500 crowns is below ALL of that. So while you can argue that a player should save up crowns....that's a very bad argument.

Let's look at the pay for items and their values of which a ESO plus subscriber or a person who just buys crowns every 3-6 months will see.

5k crowns for motifs
4-5k crowns for mounts
1500-5k crown crates
1200-5000 crowns for costumes

Basically it's set for a 90 day accumulation which requires one to also purchase a bulk of crowns during a sale

This stuff is 100% non-accessible otherwise less motif.

The game was a cost of $15/month
Now it's on average $30/month for a player who occasionally may buy a few things here and there

Someone who may decide to just play and sub is cut off from 75% of limited items due to a lack of accumulation.

Prob time to Move on but just pointing out the greed model. This has nothing to do with funding devs. because by logic if it was, then we would have content rolling out.

We've had recycled content and a few dungeons, a small DB and TG dlc in almost one year and in Feb well see housing which isn't dlc. It's actually another crown initiative

Nothing in the crown store should ever exceed the monthly sub cost. That's just the basic math of it all. And ppl saying they could've survive that way....silly.

Now the other side of it is this.....maybe some thing should come as a loyalty of subbing vs a cost of 5k in crowns. Imagine that as a model.

SMH this is dumb.

Phinix1 · December 2016

SolarCat02 wrote: »

I don't know, I am at a loss here. I run a guild, I love my guild, they are why I still play because I don't want to let them down. But I don't know how much longer I can keep playing at the rate things are dialing up here.

I understand that ZOS is a business, and they are here to make money. I don't fault that! But when it's this obvious that management is putting so much effort into squeezing the playerbase for every last penny in every possible avenue...

Relevant:
Why can't MMO companies just run an honest business?

pattyLtd · December 2016

I didn't think they would go over the dro m'athra senche price for any mount anytime soon.
I was wrong which is obviously extremely rare

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I am going to be strong this time and not buy this mount i have way too many to choose from already anyway.
Don't know if it will be rare tbh that's what i thought about the dro matra sense when i bought it.

rotaugen454 · December 2016

My wife would love an elk, so I'll be gifting it to her. Yeah, it's about $20 in bulk sale Crowns, but her ring cost exponentially more...

Delpi · December 2016

I have the money to spend ready and I really wanted to buy it. Now I won't. Simple as that. I won't join this ridiculous prices. If someone else wants to burn their money it's his problem.

quake89 · December 2016

First this community complained about crown crates and there a gamble and that items should have a fixed price in the crown

lordrichter wrote: »

quake89 wrote: »

The appeal to me is not many people will she'll out the 4.5k crowns and so I'll be sitting there on my elk like a boss

It is a cool mount. I would definitely spend 4500 Crowns on this, just based on what I see in the preview. It will be interesting to see how it performs in the game. They can always ruin it with some dorky animation or sound, like they did with one of the wolf mounts.

My problem is that I buy mounts for characters, not just to have the mount. I have a couple of mounts that I just bought for the sake of buying, the Ice Horse being one, and I don't use them like I thought I would. I decided that if I do not have a character that will immediately use the mount, I don't buy it. I have no characters that will use an Elk mount, not that I don't wish I did.

This will return only in Crown Crates, so once I decide to not have the mount, it is a Forever Decision. I don't expect this will change my decision, but before Crown Crates, I never had to think about it. It is possible that this is why they priced it at 4500 Crowns, but seriously, this mount looks pretty cool.

It rears like a horse mount but makes a high pitch deer sound and so far no annoying sounds when riding like the camel.

I really couldnt be arsed about the cost its a mount for my high elves so its honestly a worthwhile investment for me. I get its not everyones cup of tea or in the price range their willing to pay which like i said earlier makes it better for me because ill have a more unique mount.

DRXHarbinger · December 2016

Looks pretty cool though. Didn't technically cost anything as most xb people were gifted 10k crowns so why not. Wouldn't pay for it though outright. Stupid.

KramUzibra · December 2016

I will be purchasing one for me and my sister! It's a beautiful mount! Absolutely worth the price.

Phinix1 · December 2016

People always say "if you don't like it leave." Not a chance. That would be a reward for ZOS's greed.

Think about it. I would rather cancel my sub, use my remaining crowns to buy the 2 DLC's I don't already own, never buy anything again, and play for free, eating up their server power costing them money in maintenance and personnel while they get nothing in return.

Leaving would just save them money.

Screw that. They deserve to lose their backsides for the direction they've taken.

SolarCat02 · December 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Looks pretty cool though. Didn't technically cost anything as most xb people were gifted 10k crowns so why not. Wouldn't pay for it though outright. Stupid.

... Those were just for people who had not been receiving their monthly subscription Crowns, actually. Wasn't a gift. Although some of the accounts seem to have gotten mixed up.

I would not say "most people". In all my guilds and among all my friends, I only know one person who got any.