So just nerf everything that isn't a stamDK? What class does the OP play? Hmmm...

After reading your suggestions I am even happy that ZOS actually does not listen to players because if they listened to you, the game would be like....

You think heavy armor needs nurfing? really?

Perhaps some of the set bonus can be but heavy armor is used by people who get absolutely smashed and need to withstand the hits. Also just a heads up I don't use shuffle on heavy armor... never tried it...am I missing something for a tank here hmmm??

Mike0987 wrote: »

I agree with #2 Nerf proc pets. Mainly that stupid twilight bird thing. 3rd person view on a 60 inch TV is a blinding eye destroyer and you can't even tank to the banker when they are directly in front of them.

Pet nerfing? pets are hardly an issue, granted perhaps they should vanish when you enter a town, but pets don't need any type of nurfing, heck they need improving.

2# is proc nerfing btw which yes, that needs work

Phinix1 wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

1. nerf magicka DKs

I LOL'd.

I also LOL'd

Axorn wrote: »

1. nerf heavy armor
2. nerf proc sets
3. nerf templar's BoL not for healers but for magicka DPS templars idk how to do that but this heal just too much with 1 click
4. nerf stam sorcs
5. nerf magicka DKs
6. nerf NBs incapacitating strike increase the ultimate cost from 50 to 100
7. nerf poisons especially that increases people stamina and magicka costs
8. nerf damage shields increase their duration but nerf the scale ratio with magicka
9. nerf radiant destruction this execute really ridiclous not on 1v1 but its crap if you fight againts couple people.
10. nerf racial passives remove percantage from max stats and give flat values
11. nerf gap closers add cost penalty if re cast in 4 sec. Just like streak penalty
12. nerf NBs cloak add cost penalty if recast in 4 sec but increase the duration to 5 sec
13. nerf daedric mines reduce mine duration its so overpower for meele stam builds againts sorc
14. nerf immortal tanks, blocking and stam regen nerfed because of this but they are back there are literally immortal people that whole raid cant kill them.
15. nerf immobilization spam like talon encase etc. increase their cost and add cost penalty.
16. nerf sneak attack damage stealth should be used for hide and escape not for 1 shot people, sneakin player already have the element of surprise why giving them %50 more damage ?
17. nerf mist form add cost penalty if re cast in 4 sec.
18. nerf dark deal

Maybe you must play other game. May Santa nerf you!

Definitely a post made by a magicka / stamina nightblade.

The only nerf i see there is the incap strike increase, however the tradeoff of sealth time for cost is basically a buff.

Giggled on BoL nerf for dps templars. Right, because ability to heal yourself while taking a beating and doing nothing else is OP, and healing someone who does damage is not.

Double LoL'd on Mines nerf.

Triple LoL'd on Magicka DK nerf.

Quadra LoL'd on mist form nerf.

Either a troll list or made by a magicka NB.

Axorn wrote: »

1. nerf heavy armor
   No
2. nerf proc sets
   Yes
3. nerf templar's BoL not for healers but for magicka DPS templars idk how to do that but this heal just too much with 1 click
   No
4. nerf stam sorcs
   No
5. nerf magicka DKs
   Hell NO
6. nerf NBs incapacitating strike increase the ultimate cost from 50 to 100
   No
7. nerf poisons especially that increases people stamina and magicka costs
   No
8. nerf damage shields increase their duration but nerf the scale ratio with magicka
   No
9. nerf radiant destruction this execute really ridiclous not on 1v1 but its crap if you fight againts couple people.
   Yes
10. nerf racial passives remove percantage from max stats and give flat values
    No
11. nerf gap closers add cost penalty if re cast in 4 sec. Just like streak penalty
    No
12. nerf NBs cloak add cost penalty if recast in 4 sec but increase the duration to 5 sec
    No
13. nerf daedric mines reduce mine duration its so overpower for meele stam builds againts sorc
    No
14. nerf immortal tanks, blocking and stam regen nerfed because of this but they are back there are literally immortal people
    that whole raid cant kill them.
    No
15. nerf immobilization spam like talon encase etc. increase their cost and add cost penalty.
    No
16. nerf sneak attack damage stealth should be used for hide and escape not for 1 shot people, sneakin player already have the element of surprise why giving them %50 more damage ?
    No
17. nerf mist form add cost penalty if re cast in 4 sec.
    NO
18. nerf dark deal
    No

All this nerf crap, and you failed to mention Sharpened?

My verdicht: L2P

Just a bunch of complaints with no constructive reasoning as to "why" something should be changed.

Here, let me show you:

Example 1) Heavy armor is OP, please nerf. (that's the OP, who would have guessed)

Example 2) Heavy armor is OP, since adding proc sets to those allow you to get both high survivability and damage.

Example 3) Heavy armor is seemingly overpowered, as proc sets have little variance based on armor used, and stacking those with HA allow the user to get both high survivability and damage. For comparison, using light or medium armor <providing example situation where heavy armor is shown as the superior choice the majority of the time>. As such, I would recommend <specific change> to bring HA in line with other armor sets.

In case 1), you're just randomly complaining. We don't even know what the root of the problem is.

In case 2), you complain about a specific aspect, getting there, but I still have to look for a solution to the issue and see what impacts there could be.

In case 3), I know what the problem is, where it comes from, an actual test case, and I get one or multiple ideas on how to fix it. If I am a dev (which I am, just not working for Zos), I got all the things required to fix the issue. Time is precious, so providing as much information as possible is a big plus.

Providing RL example: I get a ticket saying "it doesn't work". Like, literally, thank you for warning me, but... what doesn't work? Other ticket I get:There's an issue on screen <X>, <Y> value should be <Z> for <value1=A>, <value2=B>, ... .

Right now, I want to scream "L2P issue". As far as I know, all those things are balanced, because you give me no good reason to believe otherwise.

They can nerf PVP so that no one can attack anyone else, that would be balanced too wouldnt?

A nice friendly zone without all the little tears and cries for nerf, would be nice. Turning it into a PVE zone, and writing off the PVP audience would be cheaper then trying to fulfill the never ending nerf list.

At least it would be a lot better then the constant ruining of the game for such a small audience's benefit.