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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

I will never do vma again

  • Danksta
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    The drops for The Maelstrom weapons SERIOUSLY need a better system, I could think of three different ways to improve it off the top of my head, how can a game designer not understand that?

    Its not like getting a good Vma drop lets you sell it, its all bound, just make it easier to get

    Have an interactable board in the lobby that lets you choose whether or not you want to receive a certain weapon/ roll on completion but only if youve already received it.

    So if I get a training inferno staff, I can go let the game know that I dont want another training inferno staff.

    Or have the rolls that YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR drop a little more often.

    Im not asking for a first time sharpened item, or even a fifth time completion sharpened

    But when I see the BS RNG that people have, it really makes me wonder why something hasnt been done.

    Don't worry, I guarantee you want get any training weapon in vMA. :lol:
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  • Lukums1
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    All you need is further practise, VMA is a cake walk - sure you need to learn and understand mechanics but geez after a while knowing spawn points running khrags and (1 heavy attack) literally kills everything it becomes a bit of a "haha"

    Luke
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  • greylox
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    Too much hard work having to remember mechanics. Some people like that some don't. I just dont go, takes far too long as well and it's solo only.

    The weapons are only worth it if you're a min mazer, they aren't needed.
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  • Brrrofski
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    Sarielis wrote: »
    the Damage is to crazy and the rng is bullcrap

    I wish they would Nerf VMA to the point where it becomes challenging but fun. Not a headache through and through. Im normally not a NERF IT guy but damn. Its just not fun to the point I dont even play it.

    There are some ppl that dont find it challenging anymore

    The ones that ran it 500+ times and still didn't get the weapon they want

    I've done it like 10 times across 3 classes and it isn't really hard. It's literally getting a good build and learning rotations. That's all it is. First time was 4 hours, then 2, then an hour the other times since.

    Still not worth my time. An hour game time to get a useless weapon is not my idea of a good investment nor is it fun.
    Edited by Brrrofski on December 13, 2016 11:54AM
  • Rataroto
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    You don't quit Maelstrom
    Maelstrom quits you
  • ForsakenSin
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    Ive been saying this for a while .... make it 2 man its a mmo after all and it would be so much more fun and lets not forget traded VMSA with the partner.

    I don't have much problem with VMSA except the lag and due to this ive been stuck on damm ice stage .

    these are just some of my top of the 50 plus death.

    ..run across the water stops on the edge .....get on the ice ...get on the ice GET ON THE FU#$%& ICE... nothing just stands there in the water close to edge ..... WHAT!!!! HOW ARE YOU NOT ABLE TO WALK UP THE ICE !!!! GET ON IT !!..press jump nothing happens press role dodge nothing happens .....dead... AAAAaaaa F$%# ok lets try again .......

    ... Ice boss... ok i got this.... get him down to 70% and get him to smash the first ice.... ok .. he is going red run to the second ice.. great made it ...boss smashes the ice ...im dead... WTF!!!! I WAS ALREADY ON THE SECOND ICE HOW !!!

    Aaaaa ok lets go again

    ..... ok awsome yes 30k only to go ...just need one hit...just one hit...that is it,... just one hit is all i need..... my health is low .... i will heal first ..... press heal...nothing...press heal... nothing PUSH THE DAMM BUTTOM AS HARD AS YOU FU#$%^ CAN ... nothing happens ...dead.... ...boss had 15k health .... moment of silence everything is quite ... ......YOU MOTHER F#$%# SON OF A B#$%@ THIS IS BULL@##$$%@ HE ONLY HAD 15K HEALTH YOU FU@#$^ PIECE OF @#$&^* @$^%&**((@#^ ^#^@#&*@#** #^@#&@#*@#( @#^#&*#( #@&*#*#@() #&@#*#@() &@&@#*#) F#$%^ YOU VMSA MY A$$@#$%%#@ YOU CAN SUCK MY#@#$#$$$@$@# @#@#&$* @#@#$$$ #@*##@* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA @#*@#*#@*#@##@(@#( FU#$$%* YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!


    ok ...lets try again....

    boss spawns .... ok ... going good.... he is down to 50% going good ... i got it this round ... adds on me.. i run to the second ice im alone on the the ice throwing claptrap ... time freeze for 1 sec all adds are teleport next to me i see all of flashes im dead...

    ...im..not..even....this time..... nope ..not my night quit the game....
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  • jakeedmundson
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    Rataroto wrote: »
    You don't quit Maelstrom
    Maelstrom quits you

    That's about as good as anyone could put it...
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  • Rataroto
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    SickDuck wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    Sarielis wrote: »
    the Damage is to crazy and the rng is bullcrap

    I wish they would Nerf VMA to the point where it becomes challenging but fun. Not a headache through and through. Im normally not a NERF IT guy but damn. Its just not fun to the point I dont even play it.

    There are some ppl that dont find it challenging anymore

    Do they find it fun?

    I do it as a warm up for something harder, like prob another game : ^)
    JK
    I do it because I get something to do, that actually requires some skill.
    Note the some, SOME, because it isnt hard
  • Seratopia
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    Sarielis wrote: »
    the Damage is to crazy and the rng is bullcrap


    Dare I leave my rng here? To make you guys more mad (sorry lol) it took three runs. Got sharp inferno staff and powered resto in same run. I wonder what that math of chance was..


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    Edited by Seratopia on December 20, 2016 6:10AM
  • Rataroto
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    Seratopia wrote: »
    Sarielis wrote: »
    the Damage is to crazy and the rng is bullcrap


    Dare I leave my rng here? To make you guys more mad (sorry lol) it took three runs. Got sharp inferno staff and powered resto in same run. I wonder what that math of chance was..


    N1T7Yyl.jpg

    I'll help you giving them all those Mastic i got from deconing sharp infernos. I only keep 2 for my dk and thats all.
    2 of each sharpened weapon, and 2 of each precise weapon. the rest is purple mats (gold sometimes)
    and I keep a copy of each trait of the bow, because it was my first weapon (sharpened as well), ITS SO FLUFFY

    not really, but you get the point
  • Lukums1
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    greylox wrote: »
    Too much hard work having to remember mechanics. Some people like that some don't. I just dont go, takes far too long as well and it's solo only.

    The weapons are only worth it if you're a min mazer, they aren't needed.

    Wrong...

    Dual wield adds like 10-12k dps from standard weapons.

    So if you want to really smash out some mean dps you'll need them.

    However you're right in saying they aren't really needed to do all content you'll get by without.
    PS4 Yellow Scum Dominion
    1600+ vMA runs and counting
    Magicka Sorc - Flawless - 544k Score
    Stam Sorc - Flawless - 559k Score
    Stam DK - FLAWLESS 512k Score
    Stam NB - 492k Score - Work in progress
    Magicka Temp - 482k Score

    The Ozmeric Dominion (Oceanic) Australian Based Guild

    vMA "guru" - VHRC - vSO - vSOHM - vDSA - vAA - vMOL
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    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/181142505

    You have vMA questions? Want a guide? Helping hand? PM me!

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