Create a healer

TrofoHawk · December 2016

Hey.

I thought about creating myself a healer, but I`m 110% clueless on anything connected to healing...
So I need to know:

Race?
Class?
Armor?
Stam or Mage?
Weapons on primary and secondary?

No need to tell which armor set to use, might have to spend a good time before I can even consider crafting my own armor set.

Anyone got links to or know a great build, would be highly appreciated

Bumblebeelzebub · December 2016

In what context do you want to heal? PvE (4-man dungeons, trials) or small group PvP are some examples. Builds will vary depending on what you'd like to do specifically.

CowNRB · December 2016

well i can tell you most of it

class: Templar
Armour: imo Light armour
Magicka
Weapons resto and destro

cellobuddy · December 2016

Race-Significantly less important on healers than DPS, but anything with magic regen or reduced magic cost helps. The argonian increase in healing done also helps, but isn't necessary.
Class-Templar is BiS, but you can heal on other classes too, especially if you're just taking it easy in 4-man dungeons.
Armor-Light all the way. Sustain will never be an issue.
Stam or Mage- Keep it magic based. Every class uses a resto staff and any magic based heals will scale with magic stats (spell power, max magic, spell crit). The only group healing skill stam has off the top of my head is vigor, and you aren't always going to be in range of the person that needs the heal.
Weapons-Resto is a must for almost every healer. Destro is nice for being able to provide support through elemental drain, but just like templar isn't required to heal, destro isn't either. You could swap it out for DW to get extra spell damage so your heals hit harder or 1H and shield so that you're less likely to die, leaving your team without a healer.

For BiS, though, a templar healer with a resto and destro staff that knows what they're doing can't be beat.

CowNRB · December 2016

oh and a link to a guide! http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-templar-healer/#Skills

ziaodix · December 2016

Group healing skills are heavily magicka based, so on that note.

Race - Anything that is going to give you magicka (either dps or sustain). Breton is a very good choice for healer, but so is High Elf and Argonian.

Class - You can heal almost any content in this game with just the resto staff and the skills provided in that tree. How do I know this, I have a Temp & DK healer, and have played with both sorc and NB healers in all end game trials and dungeons and have compoleted them with no deaths. So go with the one you are most comfortable with. The only advatage that Templars have over the other 3 classes in the way of utility and support are shards (for stam return) and repentance (for stam and hp return). The 3 main mag sustain abilities, ele drain, force syphon and orbs are in skill lines any class have access to.

Armor - Depends on PvP or PvE. PvE, all light (Unles you want to 5-1-1 for undaunted passives). Keep it simple and maintain your sustain so you keep the group alive and doing what they should be doing - tank tanking and dps dps'ing. PvP is a different story and would be more based on your skill playing whether you'd want more light or more heavy.

Mage is best for group healing, for the aforementioned reasons.

I run Resto main bar, Destro back bar. I run this for pure utility. When I heal I do very little dps but focus on keeping buffs and debuffs active for my group to succeed in their roles and be the most effective they can be.

I know you said Armor would come later, but your bread and butter main 5 piece will likely be Spell Power Cure (obtained from WGT). This set is a must have for most heal builds. I run this with sanctuary usually, though you can pair it with almost any other utility set and heal without any issues.

I've been healing for quite a while now, and to keep the group alive, just stack healing springs. That's the easy part. After that work on your utility or dps play (some healers dps between healing, some stay more utility). Find your preferred style and work with it.

AzuraKin · December 2016

cellobuddy wrote: »

Race-Significantly less important on healers than DPS, but anything with magic regen or reduced magic cost helps. The argonian increase in healing done also helps, but isn't necessary.
Class-Templar is BiS, but you can heal on other classes too, especially if you're just taking it easy in 4-man dungeons.
Armor-Light all the way. Sustain will never be an issue.
Stam or Mage- Keep it magic based. Every class uses a resto staff and any magic based heals will scale with magic stats (spell power, max magic, spell crit). The only group healing skill stam has off the top of my head is vigor, and you aren't always going to be in range of the person that needs the heal.
Weapons-Resto is a must for almost every healer. Destro is nice for being able to provide support through elemental drain, but just like templar isn't required to heal, destro isn't either. You could swap it out for DW to get extra spell damage so your heals hit harder or 1H and shield so that you're less likely to die, leaving your team without a healer.

For BiS, though, a templar healer with a resto and destro staff that knows what they're doing can't be beat.

any magicka light armor build should have 1m, 1h as part of thier final build.

cellobuddy · December 2016

AzuraKin wrote: »

cellobuddy wrote: »

Race-Significantly less important on healers than DPS, but anything with magic regen or reduced magic cost helps. The argonian increase in healing done also helps, but isn't necessary.
Class-Templar is BiS, but you can heal on other classes too, especially if you're just taking it easy in 4-man dungeons.
Armor-Light all the way. Sustain will never be an issue.
Stam or Mage- Keep it magic based. Every class uses a resto staff and any magic based heals will scale with magic stats (spell power, max magic, spell crit). The only group healing skill stam has off the top of my head is vigor, and you aren't always going to be in range of the person that needs the heal.
Weapons-Resto is a must for almost every healer. Destro is nice for being able to provide support through elemental drain, but just like templar isn't required to heal, destro isn't either. You could swap it out for DW to get extra spell damage so your heals hit harder or 1H and shield so that you're less likely to die, leaving your team without a healer.

For BiS, though, a templar healer with a resto and destro staff that knows what they're doing can't be beat.

any magicka light armor build should have 1m, 1h as part of thier final build.

I disagree. A lot of healers like to run 2 5-piece sets that are light armor along with a master restoration staff, requiring 7 light armor pieces (SPC-Infal, SPC-Worm, SPC-Twilight remedy for example are the primary trial healing builds)

ziaodix · December 2016

cellobuddy wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

cellobuddy wrote: »

Race-Significantly less important on healers than DPS, but anything with magic regen or reduced magic cost helps. The argonian increase in healing done also helps, but isn't necessary.
Class-Templar is BiS, but you can heal on other classes too, especially if you're just taking it easy in 4-man dungeons.
Armor-Light all the way. Sustain will never be an issue.
Stam or Mage- Keep it magic based. Every class uses a resto staff and any magic based heals will scale with magic stats (spell power, max magic, spell crit). The only group healing skill stam has off the top of my head is vigor, and you aren't always going to be in range of the person that needs the heal.
Weapons-Resto is a must for almost every healer. Destro is nice for being able to provide support through elemental drain, but just like templar isn't required to heal, destro isn't either. You could swap it out for DW to get extra spell damage so your heals hit harder or 1H and shield so that you're less likely to die, leaving your team without a healer.

For BiS, though, a templar healer with a resto and destro staff that knows what they're doing can't be beat.

any magicka light armor build should have 1m, 1h as part of thier final build.

I disagree. A lot of healers like to run 2 5-piece sets that are light armor along with a master restoration staff, requiring 7 light armor pieces (SPC-Infal, SPC-Worm, SPC-Twilight remedy for example are the primary trial healing builds)

Agreed. 5-1-1 isn't required, and it's not for everyone.

Odditorium · December 2016

My main is currently a healer and I am quite please with him.

Race - Imperial
Class - Templar
Armor - PVE/light PVP/heavy
Stam or Mage - 64 points into magicka
Weapons on primary and secondary - PVE/resto-DW PVP/resto-S&B
Mundus - The Ritual

I have Undaunted maxed out and the 3-armor passive works well. I use 6 light and one heavy in PVE and 5 heavy, 1 medium, 1 light in PVP.

Imperials get a health and stam increase for some of their racial passives and so I'm able to throw all my points into magicka.

I use Witches Potent Brew which gives a health and magicka boost as well as magicka regen.

Use heavy attacks with the resto as much as you are able.

AzuraKin · December 2016

cellobuddy wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

cellobuddy wrote: »

Race-Significantly less important on healers than DPS, but anything with magic regen or reduced magic cost helps. The argonian increase in healing done also helps, but isn't necessary.
Class-Templar is BiS, but you can heal on other classes too, especially if you're just taking it easy in 4-man dungeons.
Armor-Light all the way. Sustain will never be an issue.
Stam or Mage- Keep it magic based. Every class uses a resto staff and any magic based heals will scale with magic stats (spell power, max magic, spell crit). The only group healing skill stam has off the top of my head is vigor, and you aren't always going to be in range of the person that needs the heal.
Weapons-Resto is a must for almost every healer. Destro is nice for being able to provide support through elemental drain, but just like templar isn't required to heal, destro isn't either. You could swap it out for DW to get extra spell damage so your heals hit harder or 1H and shield so that you're less likely to die, leaving your team without a healer.

For BiS, though, a templar healer with a resto and destro staff that knows what they're doing can't be beat.

any magicka light armor build should have 1m, 1h as part of thier final build.

I disagree. A lot of healers like to run 2 5-piece sets that are light armor along with a master restoration staff, requiring 7 light armor pieces (SPC-Infal, SPC-Worm, SPC-Twilight remedy for example are the primary trial healing builds)

i run 5 1 1 on all magicka classes, i run 2 templar healers. both run 5 1 1. both have amazing heals, in fact i rarely see anyone hit stronger with heals.

TrofoHawk · December 2016

Wow, quite a read. You guys seems to know this

I was talking PvE, dungeons and maybe trials.
Well thanks, I might try out both Argonian and Imperial and figure out which one I prefer.
I might go for the 6 light armor and 1 heavy for the passives.

I have a High Elf, DK, running destro and resto, but he sucks, or rather I don`t know how to use him well enough, so he`s mainly a crafter ( almost master crafter )

For now I`m currently 315 CP, so any hints on how to distribute them? ( for the healer )

SolarCat02 · December 2016

If you already have a high elf magicka Dragonknight that you are not using for anything else, I do highly recommend that you play with him in normal dungeons to get a feel for healing. Dragonknights are tougher to heal on, but also have good personal survivability, so it's a good way to get a feel for healing. Because you need to successfully anticipate damage instead of relying on an emergency heal like Breath of Life you really get an eye for things. (I main a high elf DK healer).

AzuraKin · December 2016

TrofoHawk wrote: »

Wow, quite a read. You guys seems to know this

I was talking PvE, dungeons and maybe trials.
Well thanks, I might try out both Argonian and Imperial and figure out which one I prefer.
I might go for the 6 light armor and 1 heavy for the passives.

I have a High Elf, DK, running destro and resto, but he sucks, or rather I don`t know how to use him well enough, so he`s mainly a crafter ( almost master crafter )

For now I`m currently 315 CP, so any hints on how to distribute them? ( for the healer )

cp for pure healing is outgoing heal then heal crit. if you wanna do more damage as well, balance crit cp over with thaumaturge and/or elemental expert.

SuperLarrio · December 2016

AzuraKin wrote: »

cellobuddy wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

cellobuddy wrote: »

Race-Significantly less important on healers than DPS, but anything with magic regen or reduced magic cost helps. The argonian increase in healing done also helps, but isn't necessary.
Class-Templar is BiS, but you can heal on other classes too, especially if you're just taking it easy in 4-man dungeons.
Armor-Light all the way. Sustain will never be an issue.
Stam or Mage- Keep it magic based. Every class uses a resto staff and any magic based heals will scale with magic stats (spell power, max magic, spell crit). The only group healing skill stam has off the top of my head is vigor, and you aren't always going to be in range of the person that needs the heal.
Weapons-Resto is a must for almost every healer. Destro is nice for being able to provide support through elemental drain, but just like templar isn't required to heal, destro isn't either. You could swap it out for DW to get extra spell damage so your heals hit harder or 1H and shield so that you're less likely to die, leaving your team without a healer.

For BiS, though, a templar healer with a resto and destro staff that knows what they're doing can't be beat.

any magicka light armor build should have 1m, 1h as part of thier final build.

I disagree. A lot of healers like to run 2 5-piece sets that are light armor along with a master restoration staff, requiring 7 light armor pieces (SPC-Infal, SPC-Worm, SPC-Twilight remedy for example are the primary trial healing builds)

i run 5 1 1 on all magicka classes, i run 2 templar healers. both run 5 1 1. both have amazing heals, in fact i rarely see anyone hit stronger with heals.

Every endgame healer i know, myself included, uses spc+one of the 5 pieces sets listed. In trials I generally run spc+twilight+master resto. Ive never had a vet trial experience where i thought "man i need stronger heals". Trials are more about utility vs pure heal strength and 2 5pc sets are going to do that. More about continuous heals vs strong burst heals.

Same thing goes for tanks. Is ebon+alkosh the tankiest combo there is? Absolutely not. But its more about the group.

Nax · December 2016

AzuraKin

i run 5 1 1 on all magicka classes, i run 2 templar healers. both run 5 1 1. both have amazing heals, in fact i rarely see anyone hit stronger with heals.

Okay, Donald.

Joking aside (and it is all in good jest), in my opinion, for PvE it's not so much about the strength of your heals, but about the utility you are able to provide for your group. I'm not saying however that it's not important for your heals to "hit hard", but they won't hit "less hard" to the point that you cause a wipe if you opt out of 5/1/1, and use for example 6/0/1-- 6 light, 1 heavy (or 7 light as someone else has said). Running 5/1/1, unless you've got DW on one or both bars, you will be unable to utilize 2 5-piece set bonuses, for example SPC and IA. In my opinion the utility from these sets is loads better than having the "hardest hitting heals". Not to say that your setup isn't effective or something, but it's not the only way to play and do the job well!