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AzuraKin wrote: »

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Nah

Garbage comes to mind, crappy code that lets them ignore line of site, walls, why have walls if everything goes through them, standing on top of a keep getting hit with proc sets from the ground, through the walls, what's the range on those things, stacking proc one suite procs another, and who knows what kind of exploits have been found with these things, I can't believe they are working as intended and if they are it is a sad day in eso. I think you should only be able to wear one set with a proc, guess we will wee what the future brings things like this and zos'es lack of attention to these matters just make it easier for me to delete this game when something else comes around I want to play.

I didn't see a "it doesn't really bother me option." I've been in cyrodiil quite a bit since the proc set meta came. Honestly haven't seen a major difference in deaths. You are going to get gangked, and you are going to get steamroller by a zerg. Cyrodiil is the same as it always has been. The thing most people don't take into account is that if you load up on proc sets you have less weapon damage overall. You either get lucky and hit the same as someone who before loaded up on weapon damage and has 5k or you hit like a wet noodle. Now we have several ways to be effective. Just my opinion though.

In PvP? Yeah, "because everybody else" (Stamina Players) are killing me with two hits or less and I need to be able to compete and possibly counter these builds with their own medicine.

For PvE, I don't use proc sets like Viper as they are insufficient.

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KingDuncanVII wrote: »

In PvP? Yeah, "because everybody else" (Stamina Players) are killing me with two hits or less and I need to be able to compete and possibly counter these builds with their own medicine.

For PvE, I don't use proc sets like Viper as they are insufficient.

No those are just excuses, you can be competitive without them.

RNG has limited place in a skill based game. It can be used to deter players from applying tools outside of their intended situations (i.e. Bullet bloom in an FPS limits the effective range of guns.) by making those tools undesirable to use. In other words, RNG makes a tool unreliable or inconsistent which does not feel good in a presumably skill oriented game. Using RNG to reward proper usage also never feels good -- for the other players, both those fighting against and with the one being rewarded by RNG.

Take for example the Engraved Gauntlets of Dark Souls 2.

Stone gauntlets engraved with odd writing. Said to bring good fortune to the wearer.
The wealthy merchant Fiorenza searched for these rare and precious gauntlets his entire life, but was not the one who found them.
Effect: Rare chance normal attacks become critical hits

These gauntlets provide a 5% chance any attack gains a critical modifier (x1.5). This includes normal attacks, strong attacks, counter attacks, ripostes, backstabs and consumables. In exchange for wearing low defense gauntlets, the Engraved Gauntlets give infrequent, significant boosts to damage dealt. A critical modifier applied to a counter blow can be over 1000 damage, which is half of a player with high Vigor's HP, the equivalent of 3 - 5 normal attacks, depending on weapon, or one third of a boss's HP. Due to Dark Souls 2 being a skill based game, all damage can be avoided, so the inferior defense of the Engraved Gauntlets is a non-issue. Spontaneously losing 50% HP or more is always surprising and discouraging in a fight. It feels unfair in addition to unexpected.

Heavy influence of RNG does not feel bad when the game is based significantly upon it, such as in turn based games. ESO has had RNG based sets and passives ingame from launch, however limited. Ravager, Magnus's Gift, Burning Light, dodge chance and critical chance have all been here from 2014. ESO has an identity crisis on what type of combat experience it should have and these RNG elements have a place in one of those possible experiences. One of those experiences is the skill based, tactical combat of Dark Souls, of which RNG has no place.

The experience I seek out of ESO is the skill based one. RNG has no place outside of penalizing improper usage of tools and mechanics. Yet here we have pervasive RNG in ESO. It never feels fair to be on the receiving end of RNG, but it also puts me at a disadvantage to not use RNG as well. Embrace the imbalance and exploit it or be perpetually frustrated with inconsistent and unfair PvP and under rewarded play in PvE.

before 1t, my kill death ratio was probably 2-1. 1 death for every 2 kills not very good. i used black rose/viper the first week of one tamriel and my kill ratio was never higher. like easily 20-1. id never killed so much, but then again id never run with so many players also proccing. i then dropped the sets after a little while. now I'm on spriggan rose- no velidreth and maelstrom weapons and my kill ratios about 8-1 . I'm not tearing up the field, but 1 on 1 i can hold my own unless against a proc set, but moreso i dont feel like a ***.

the other day i was ganked off my horse by a night blade, i got off, streaked, rebuffed, healed, and proceeded to whip his arse for a good 30 seconds. I'm not a good player by any means but experienced to know when I'm out positioning , outplaying my opponent. he was running around, popping potions, then he turned ambushed, and his viper procced- and bam - fight was over. thats viper.