montiferus wrote: »While I can see you have very good intentions with this and are trying to be helpful to the community, which is a good thing, I completely disagree with this idea.
People need to learn to do these things on their own. If they are not good enough to complete VMA on their own merit then that is a challenge they need to overcome. That is how people get better at things by facing the obstacles before them. If everything is given to you there is no growth. Not trying to get too philosophical here but the axiom holds true.
When I started running VMA it frustrated me to no end and made me want to quit. Once I finally beat it I had such a feeling of accomplishment it made me thankful for the struggle and appreciative of the lesson it taught me. In the end it has made me a much better player. The act of doing it, struggle included, is part of the process of becoming a better player.
For someone to have that hard work done for them goes against everything the game and frankly life is about. It is also a slight to those who have accomplished it the old fashioned way (regardless of leaderboards they now get the stormproof title).
My recommendation would be to NOT offer this service. I do not think in the end you are helping anyone by doing this. You are certainly NOT helping the players you do this for.
redspecter23 wrote: »Whether it's against TOS or not, it's putting a completion (and likely a leaderboard completion) in the hands of someone that wouldn't otherwise have gotten it, which bumps a legit leaderboard score off the list. That's the issue I'd have with it. If it's not about leaderboards, I'd suggest a quick DC at the start so it's just about the completion and not the leaderboard.
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If you're not charging them and just doing as a social thing....it's not an issue.
It's when ppl are advertising to do something in exchange for a monetary reward or in game reward that it becomes questionable.
Not true, know a couple of people that got official warnings for "account sharing" by letting a mate log in and do VMA for them so they could get weapons....
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »redspecter23 wrote: »Whether it's against TOS or not, it's putting a completion (and likely a leaderboard completion) in the hands of someone that wouldn't otherwise have gotten it, which bumps a legit leaderboard score off the list. That's the issue I'd have with it. If it's not about leaderboards, I'd suggest a quick DC at the start so it's just about the completion and not the leaderboard.
Then PlayStation isn't the platform for you. Every game allows this but this was known since early on prior to this game being released for PS4NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If you're not charging them and just doing as a social thing....it's not an issue.
It's when ppl are advertising to do something in exchange for a monetary reward or in game reward that it becomes questionable.
Not true, know a couple of people that got official warnings for "account sharing" by letting a mate log in and do VMA for them so they could get weapons....
@SirDopey
This is a console term so no one is logging in anyone else's account or accessing their account. The hey are only passing control over to play the character while each are online simultaneously.
It's two different ppl each on their own account the whole time.
KingYogi415 wrote: »People get permantly banned for gamesharing. Why would "shareplaying" be any different?
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montiferus wrote: »Luke
Thank you for your reasoned, fair response. It is nice to be able to have a disagreement with someone while still keeping things civil. It seems we agree on much and while I don't agree with you on everything I have a lot of respect for your civility. I've also seen a lot of your VMA posts and I have to say you really go the extra mile toward being helpful which is a real asset to the ESO community.
Best of luck.
Monty
Giving over control of your character to someone else you don't know is nothing but bad juju. I fully expect Banks to be emptied out and hate threads to pop up.
Giving over control of your character to someone else you don't know is nothing but bad juju. I fully expect Banks to be emptied out and hate threads to pop up.
Hello Arch,
I'm not sure if you know Arch, but while in shareplay the other people see's exactly what you're doing 100% of the time and with 1 click of the button can take the control back from that player which was shared with.
Share play has been going on since release of VMA , do it if you wanna. Kinda old news for players that have been around on PS4. Selling leaderboard spots has been big Bussiness for some
Share play has been going on since release of VMA , do it if you wanna. Kinda old news for players that have been around on PS4. Selling leaderboard spots has been big Bussiness for some
Really don't think that's what we have been discussing but all good.
Shareplay is pretty damn hard to score, not that I've really tried as I generally have people log out for a period of time then log back in to ensure a score run isn't obtained.
Luke
Share play has been going on since release of VMA , do it if you wanna. Kinda old news for players that have been around on PS4. Selling leaderboard spots has been big Bussiness for some
Really don't think that's what we have been discussing but all good.
Shareplay is pretty damn hard to score, not that I've really tried as I generally have people log out for a period of time then log back in to ensure a score run isn't obtained.
Luke
Basically I'm saying If it makes you happy helping others this way go for it. It's nothing new