To the people who cry about vMA drops

kessik221 · November 2016

Idk why people complain about vigor and caltrops being pvp skills there are so many other options. Dont wanna pvp? Tough *** you dont get pvp skill lines.

acw37162 · November 2016

CultOfMMO wrote: »

you know if you put in 5 hrs in cyrodiil you will get vigor, it might seem like the longest 5 hrs for a non-pvper, but its still a solid 5 hrs no more no less.

You never know if you will be in vMA once or 100 or 300 times. THAT is the issue ppl have been raising.

Did you even read those threads?

You may be right about 5 hours.

One weapon shared across all accounts.

Skill lines, 5 hours every new stamina toon longer for magica to get proxy.

Skinzz · November 2016

Hey now im a grand overlord in pvp but I've done my fair share of pve to obtain all the gear i need including farming vma, dungeon sets and everything else.

LeeroyGankins · November 2016

you went full ***....

never go full ***

about 11/10 of the threads are about RNG...

Mojmir · November 2016

Vuzion wrote: »

Since there's so many people crying about wanting maelstrom weapons in the golden vendor because PvE is too hard.. I wanna ask, why don't we get the option to level support and assault skills without entering a PvP zone? The game seems so catered to PvP players. There is the golden vendor, so players don't have to leave the alliance zone to get PvE drops... but yet players are forced to go into an alliance zone to get caltrop and vigor? I don't mind having to level thru PvP to get those skills in any way, it just seems a bit.... unfair? Everyone else is crying about vMA like a bunch of entitled scrubs, so I felt like I should cry about something too.

disintegr8 · November 2016

You don't need the alliance skill lines to complete things in PVE but you do not have to be a PVP megastar to get to level 5 in them. I took my latest character from level 2 to level 5 on these over the weekend and 6 of my 7 characters are now at least level 5.

Pick a busy campaign, find a mob to run with or get into a group and do your best in taking or defending property. Look on the map to where the fighting is and go there, pick up your quests of the boards and do them while you are out and about. Just riding around waiting to find things will not get you there.

Dying in PVP does not cost you anything except time to travel if nobody gets you up. As soon as I accepted this, I stopped hating PVP and can actually enjoy it, especially when running with friends.

DannyLV702 · November 2016

I came into this thread thinking you were talking about people crying about rng. I was wrong. what a fail of a thread...

Stoopid_Nwah · November 2016

Lol catering to PVPers...that's why we have so many dlcs dedicated to pvp, buttery smooth large scale combat, battlegrounds and arenas, and amazing rewards for being in the top 2% right?

Rohamad_Ali · November 2016

I'd give you vigor if it was up to me and those weapons were on the golden vendor . It's not that hard to unlock anyways .

Saint_Bud · November 2016

There is an easy way to fix the loot problem. Just make it so hard at it was at orsinium release, then players cry not about the loot, only that they are cant beat it. Know players in heavy armour and s&b can finish it.

Vuzion · November 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

People PLEASE stop tearing @Vuzion to pieces. Understand who you are speaking to:

Vuzion wrote: »

I will be cp160 tomorrow and grinding out all my vma weapons. It will take me a few days to have all BiS gear, but to max out cp idk. I am playing Mag Sorc. On Xb1 I played Stam sorc, Mag temp, and Mag nb.

This guy literally has no idea what he is talking about. Not even a tiny bit. Yeah, it's kinda sad that at 1-Star this is how he has chosen to introduce himself on the Forums.... still though, let's try to help them understand.

@Vuzion It took me almost 200 runs to get my desired weapon, a Maelstrom Inferno Staff in Sharpened. It also took me 150ish runs to drops my first Axe (without any Dagger drops).

The RNG of Vet Maelstrom is utterly horrific right now.

That's me talking about a new toon on Ps4 NA, I main on Xb1 NA.. LOL

Vuzion · November 2016

Took me a few hundred runs for my first sharp inferno also.

Osteos · November 2016

Let's just remove the weapons from the game. vMA gets you a fancy polymorph and title.

Solves all the problems

Inig0 · November 2016

Junipus · November 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

People PLEASE stop tearing @Vuzion to pieces. Understand who you are speaking to:

Vuzion wrote: »

I will be cp160 tomorrow and grinding out all my vma weapons. It will take me a few days to have all BiS gear, but to max out cp idk. I am playing Mag Sorc. On Xb1 I played Stam sorc, Mag temp, and Mag nb.

This guy literally has no idea what he is talking about. Not even a tiny bit. Yeah, it's kinda sad that at 1-Star this is how he has chosen to introduce himself on the Forums.... still though, let's try to help them understand.

@Vuzion It took me almost 200 runs to get my desired weapon, a Maelstrom Inferno Staff in Sharpened. It also took me 150ish runs to drops my first Axe (without any Dagger drops).

The RNG of Vet Maelstrom is utterly horrific right now.

Tbf, it hasn't changed since they introduced the guaranteed drop chance. The only thing that's changed is more people are trying it, especially with the recent promotion, which means more people are complaining about it since they haven't gotten their gear first time, or second time, or 10th, 20th or 50th time without actually realising the true benefits of the arena.

Eventually these threads will drop down in volume while only the farmers and hardcore players will keep trying for it.

Can you even imagine the level of whining if they introduced the changes in difficulty and double drop rate if you still had a slim chance of even getting a weapon, much less on in a good trait?

Meld777 · November 2016

It took me ~430 vMA runs for... nothing. I don't have my Sharpened Inferno. And looking at Streak who got his somewhere between 1500 and 2000 runs, I lost hope.

ZOS_PeterT · November 2016

We have moved this thread to: Dungeons, Trials & Arenas

Danksta · November 2016

Caters to PvP players!? I wish it catered to PvP players, then I would play more PvP than PvE, instead of the other way around.

Decado · November 2016

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

ForsakenSin wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Lol wut?

The game is catered to PvP players?

Since when?

Yhea THATS RIGHT PVP players are always getting nerferd cos of PVE players complaining on forums nerf this nerf that .. ohh wait hang on.......

Lol salty much? but true to a extent, as some players whine regardless, they are the ones who scream for nerfs, just like some PvE peeps scream for nerfs on PvE related stuff, so whats the difference?

I do both PvE and PvP and never once asked for nerfs, even took out Doshia before she got nerfed, or Molag Bal before he got nerfed, by guess what, some PvE players.

Theres whiners with no skill in both camps dude.

And for the record, I would not care if VmA weapons were on sale in Golder vendor, because having the weapons does not automatically make you a better player, its doing VmA that makes you a better player, I got most of the stuff I want from VmA, but the RnG is horrific and most who have actually done it more than a number of times will agree, @Decado for one, defo will.

Blades are you trying to make me the poster child for *** vMA RNG?

All I have to say to OP is not everyone who wants the weapons on the vendor is an 'entitled scrub' some of us have VALID reasons for wanting them on there

nraner81 · November 2016

Valen_Byte wrote: »

If you are trying to compare the difficulty of getting Vigor to the difficulty of getting Maelstrom weapons, you got to be out of your mind.

Want Vigor? Go repair walls at a keep for a couple hours and you will have it.
Want a BiS weapon? Spend weeks or months banging your head against the worst content in the game.

Give me a break.

says the obviously slanted pvp emp.
5hrs? lol nope, much longer even with a resto spam healer.
someone link that study where 80% of eso players don't care about pvp AT ALL but pvp players make up half the cries
FYI I would rather do vma 50 times than grind cal/vig again.

AlexTech0x · November 2016

Vuzion wrote: »

Since there's so many people crying about wanting maelstrom weapons in the golden vendor because PvE is too hard.. I wanna ask, why don't we get the option to level support and assault skills without entering a PvP zone? The game seems so catered to PvP players. There is the golden vendor, so players don't have to leave the alliance zone to get PvE drops... but yet players are forced to go into an alliance zone to get caltrop and vigor? I don't mind having to level thru PvP to get those skills in any way, it just seems a bit.... unfair? Everyone else is crying about vMA like a bunch of entitled scrubs, so I felt like I should cry about something too.

Are you dating some ZOS person?

Rockndude · November 2016

You are all missing Vuzion's point. The point is why complain about it? It is part of the game and it gets pvp and pve players out of their comfort zone to try out both. Honestly, grind out your new characters in normal Maelstrom and you will get your fighter's guild and undaunted ranked up at the same time while leveling at a reasonable pace. Its so easy. Then once you reach champ rank go PvP to your hearts content.

SHADOW2KK · November 2016

Decado wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

ForsakenSin wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Lol wut?

The game is catered to PvP players?

Since when?

Yhea THATS RIGHT PVP players are always getting nerferd cos of PVE players complaining on forums nerf this nerf that .. ohh wait hang on.......

Lol salty much? but true to a extent, as some players whine regardless, they are the ones who scream for nerfs, just like some PvE peeps scream for nerfs on PvE related stuff, so whats the difference?

I do both PvE and PvP and never once asked for nerfs, even took out Doshia before she got nerfed, or Molag Bal before he got nerfed, by guess what, some PvE players.

Theres whiners with no skill in both camps dude.

And for the record, I would not care if VmA weapons were on sale in Golder vendor, because having the weapons does not automatically make you a better player, its doing VmA that makes you a better player, I got most of the stuff I want from VmA, but the RnG is horrific and most who have actually done it more than a number of times will agree, @Decado for one, defo will.

Blades are you trying to make me the poster child for *** vMA RNG?

All I have to say to OP is not everyone who wants the weapons on the vendor is an 'entitled scrub' some of us have VALID reasons for wanting them on there

Lol mate, well tbh you are the most unluckiest player I have ever known, even across multiple games and genres, you are the elite of bad luck

Rockndude · November 2016

Just to give some credibility to the OP he has one of the best scores on Xbox NA running VMA streaming regularly. If anyone has trouble in the arena he is one to watch.

Stoopid_Nwah · November 2016

nraner81 wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

If you are trying to compare the difficulty of getting Vigor to the difficulty of getting Maelstrom weapons, you got to be out of your mind.

Want Vigor? Go repair walls at a keep for a couple hours and you will have it.
Want a BiS weapon? Spend weeks or months banging your head against the worst content in the game.

Give me a break.

says the obviously slanted pvp emp.
5hrs? lol nope, much longer even with a resto spam healer.
someone link that study where 80% of eso players don't care about pvp AT ALL but pvp players make up half the cries
FYI I would rather do vma 50 times than grind cal/vig again.

If it's taking more than a day to get vigor then you probably just need to find a better group or go to a more active campaign. You should be able to get a decent amount from killing, healing, and offense/defense ticks if there is a high population of players on. If it's a lull in pop then just wall repair a bunch. I would say for newer players 20k/hour is definitely doable.

Derra · December 2016

Vuzion wrote: »

Since there's so many people crying about wanting maelstrom weapons in the golden vendor because PvE is too hard.. I wanna ask, why don't we get the option to level support and assault skills without entering a PvP zone? The game seems so catered to PvP players. There is the golden vendor, so players don't have to leave the alliance zone to get PvE drops... but yet players are forced to go into an alliance zone to get caltrop and vigor? I don't mind having to level thru PvP to get those skills in any way, it just seems a bit.... unfair? Everyone else is crying about vMA like a bunch of entitled scrubs, so I felt like I should cry about something too.

Why don´t we get rgn level ups on assault and support skilline.
It might take you 1k ap to get to assault support 10 or it might take you 64 million (grandoverlord) to get support/assault rank10.
Do you like the idea? - That´s what maelstrom rgn droprate feels like. I personally would enjoy the tears.

But since you´re probably not able to understand what i´m doing here i´ll explain it for a really slow thinker like you obviously are:
People are not complaining about having to run the arena. People are complaining about not having a finite amount of runs to reach their goal of obtaining a specific weapon.
Which is the complete opposite of what unlocking caltrops and vigor is. You have to earn 500k sth ap and you´re done.

That´s why everyone who wants it has caltrops and vigor unlocked and people are still complaining about vma while running it on a daily basis.

A person has to be batcrap insane to even make such a comparison.

Woeler · December 2016

It's also nice how all the people that can't even complete vma think that when they can get vma weapons through other means they will somehow then be good. In reality they will then just be scrubs with a vma weapon.