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@ZOS please protect families with gambleblock or similar

Knootewoot
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We need gamble block in ESO

http://www.gamblock.com/index.html

My wife loves new mounts and clothes and she has my creditcard nr because I use it for het subscription (yes, we are actual subscribers)

I am afraid she will use your gambleboxes to get the new stuff. I have the fear I come home one day with 20.000 euros debit on my creditcard

There needs to be a lock to prevent children and wifes to gamble with a password.

Please look into this.
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  • Neophyte
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    The game is rated an 18 mate. Kids shouldn't be playing :D I see your point tho
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    The game is rated an 18 mate. Kids shouldn't be playing :D I see your point tho

    I am more worried about my wife. She is 42
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    Game is rated 18 yet all adult talk is **** in chat. As if few "bad" words can even compare to money grabbing con crates...
  • Neophyte
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    I was only joking. I can't bring myself to using these boxes it's money making thing for them. Made to screw you over and I know for sure there will be helpless people pumping money into it.
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    If your wife has a gambling problem, you need to address her, not people that she can gamble with.


    If she were a drug addict, would you demand her dealer stop selling drugs? Hopefully not.
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    I was only joking. I can't bring myself to using these boxes it's money making thing for them. Made to screw you over and I know for sure there will be helpless people pumping money into it.

    And thus we must protect those people with a parental lock or similar. If my wife has access to a creditcard there is no way knowing what she will do with it. I told het those crowncrate could be bought with rare loot found only in cyrodill. So hopefully that will stall it a bit since she hates PvP.
    Edited by Knootewoot on December 2, 2016 12:26PM
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • FoolishHuman
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    If your wife has a gambling problem, you need to address her, not people that she can gamble with.


    If she were a drug addict, would you demand her dealer stop selling drugs? Hopefully not.

    Pretty sure dealing with drugs is illegal, so yeah, you could demand that.

    Anyway, they made a system that uses a loophole in gambling laws for these crates. I'm pretty sure that addicts and potential addicts are their target audience, so unless some government forces them through laws they won't do anything to help those people.
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    Honest... Can't people take a little bit of responsibility for themselves ?

    In this particular case... (assuming the case is real and not fake, which I personnally doubt)

    1. Cancel the credit card (the one used for eso+ for both acoounts)
    2. Get a new credit card for yourself and don't give your wife its information
    3. Get a new DEBIT card with limited debit for both your subs (or use a different service with limited debit like Paypal, Steamwallet, etc.)

    Problem solved.
    Above method works also with children, gambling addicts, etc.

    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on December 2, 2016 12:38PM
  • Rosveen
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    If you have a family member with a gambling/spending problem, don't give them your credit card info.
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    If your wife has a gambling problem, you need to address her, not people that she can gamble with.


    If she were a drug addict, would you demand her dealer stop selling drugs? Hopefully not.

    I would make sure she was helped and had no access to drugs. So a lock to access the crowncrates will make sure of that. and yes I would kill the drug dealer too.
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
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    ESO is a business after all, they need to make money in order to expand.
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  • Knootewoot
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    I never said she was a gamble addict. I just said
    I am afraid she will use your gambleboxes to get the new stuff. I have the fear I come home one day with 20.000 euros debit on my creditcard

    And it's not only my wife I talk about. Kids, other mental unstable persons also playing this game.

    It's gambling and should be lockable.
    Edited by Knootewoot on December 2, 2016 12:31PM
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • Alucardo
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    Nothing wrong with the suggestion. It's not like it will affect anyone else, so there's not much to complain about.
  • Junipus
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    There's something similar called a conversation. If you use that with one or more family members it can work almost as effective as secretly restricting their access to such things.
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  • Suter1972
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    If my wife has access to a creditcard there is no way knowing what she will do with it.

    Seriously, if this is a problem then crown crates are the least of your worries.

    She already has access to everything in the crown store, or buying thousands of crown points. Has it been a problem? Clearly not as you still using your card.
    Edited by Suter1972 on December 2, 2016 12:42PM
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  • Knootewoot
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    Suter1972 wrote: »
    If my wife has access to a creditcard there is no way knowing what she will do with it.

    Seriously, if this is a problem then crown crates are the least of your worries.

    She already has access to everything in the crown store, or buying thousands of crown points. Has it been a problem? Clearly not as you still using your card.

    Is buying something from the crownstore gambling? No you pay one price for something you want.

    Can you buy the thing you want directly from the crown crates? No, you can spend either 10 dollar or like Deltia 100$ and still not have it.

    It's totally DIFFERENT

    And a lock or similar does not hurt any of you. But it can help others to prevent spending to much money,

    It's not (only) for my wife since I can manage myself. It's about kids and folks that can't.

    I just want it to be protected just like you protect *** channels so your kids can't watch.
    Edited by Knootewoot on December 2, 2016 12:48PM
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
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    They should be ashamed for making content like this.

    Focus fixing buggs, and making more content for pvp and pve
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  • Hamiltonmath
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    Zos, please nerf gumball machines. I just spent $7 trying for a red one.
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Wouldn't it be easier to just change the pw for your credit card or block the eso account page on your wife's computer instead of hoping that zos might add a protection mechanism within the next 2 years?
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    Why does nobody have any sense of personal responsibility anymore?

    Seriously I'm genuinely curious.
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with the suggestion. It's not like it will affect anyone else, so there's not much to complain about.

    Yes there is.
    - It implies that (some) customers are not actually responsible of their purchases and that some customers should be given power over other customers. I'm in favor of people being free of their actions and be responsible for it.
    - Second issue is that it would imply ZOS admitting that the crates are potentially dangerous. I believe the crates aren't great, but if some people are that vulnerable to temptation, then the crates should be the least of their worries. They should take care of themselves - and seek help if needed - rather than asking ZOS to protect them.

    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on December 2, 2016 12:51PM
  • Rev Rielle
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Why does nobody have any sense of personal responsibility anymore?

    Seriously I'm genuinely curious.

    I agree. It's a cultural phenomenon, and baffling one.
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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Honest... Can't people take a little bit of responsibility for themselves ?

    In this particular case... (assuming the case is real and not fake, which I personnally doubt)

    1. Cancel the credit card (the one used for eso+ for both acoounts)
    2. Get a new credit card for yourself and don't give your wife its information
    3. Get a new DEBIT card with limited debit for both your subs (or use a different service with limited debit like Paypal, Steamwallet, etc.)

    Problem solved.
    Above method works also with children, gambling addicts, etc.

    Exactly. Lock it down. If she's a 42 year old woman she should show a bit of self restraint anyway, but if that's impossible you do it for her. Even if ZOS complies do you think it will be instantly?

    Here's my question ... do all of these people calling ZOS out for feeding into their problems understand that internet gambling - or I guess shopping in this case - exists everywhere? What's next, are you gonna call Amazon and tell them to stop selling shiny objects?

    Grow up people.
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    Honest... Can't people take a little bit of responsibility for themselves ?

    In this particular case... (assuming the case is real and not fake, which I personnally doubt)

    1. Cancel the credit card (the one used for eso+ for both acoounts)
    2. Get a new credit card for yourself and don't give your wife its information
    3. Get a new DEBIT card with limited debit for both your subs (or use a different service with limited debit like Paypal, Steamwallet, etc.)

    Problem solved.
    Above method works also with children, gambling addicts, etc.

    Exactly. Lock it down. If she's a 42 year old woman she should show a bit of self restraint anyway, but if that's impossible you do it for her. Even if ZOS complies do you think it will be instantly?

    Here's my question ... do all of these people calling ZOS out for feeding into their problems understand that internet gambling - or I guess shopping in this case - exists everywhere? What's next, are you gonna call Amazon and tell them to stop selling shiny objects?

    Grow up people.

    I can take care of me and my wife and nothing will happen, don't worry.

    But I am pretty sure some people will end up paying loads of money for one item they want and still not have it.

    But ok go ahead, dismiss an idea to put an optional lock in it. It's a good idea and won't hurt anyone. To bad some people who can take responsible actions for them selves think everybody in the world must be able to do it to. If that was the case here wouldn't be so many drug/alcohol/gambling addicts.



    Edited by Knootewoot on December 2, 2016 1:04PM
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Why does nobody have any sense of personal responsibility anymore?

    Seriously I'm genuinely curious.

    Showing your age a bit there mate.

    I'm keeping out of this, I didn't marry my wife for her money skills. She made a lot of money through waiting tables though if you catch my drift.
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  • JD2013
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Why does nobody have any sense of personal responsibility anymore?

    Seriously I'm genuinely curious.

    Showing your age a bit there mate.

    I'm keeping out of this, I didn't marry my wife for her money skills. She made a lot of money through waiting tables though if you catch my drift.

    Hey! I'm only in my early 30's! :wink: Though I am basically an old man in a younger body. I do have a lot of tweed and cardigans ...

    Not married yet though. Dodged that bullet for now!
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
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    Edit: I made a joke but was not a funny one afterwards. It could be interpreted wrong
    Edited by Knootewoot on December 2, 2016 1:11PM
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with the suggestion. It's not like it will affect anyone else, so there's not much to complain about.

    This is such a reasonable request I am surprised people can find an objection to it. I am fighting the urge to bite as some objections are actually quite judgemental and trollish. Instead I will tell you why I want this feature added.

    Sometimes I go out for beers with friends, and at the weekend I come home and decide to play video games, and normally it is a real highlight of my week. I have made so many mistakes because I play when my judgement is impaired. I accidentally deconstruct valuable gear (I love the lock feature!!!) and once I deleted a character because I decided they would be better in another alliance. This has nothing to do with the OP, but if they added a gamble-lock feature I won't have to worry about having an impulsive gambling session when my better judgement is sleeping under a bar stool.

    I know I don't want to buy crown crates when I am sober, so I'd like to make the choice to not be able to buy them if I get a drunken idea too.
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Honest... Can't people take a little bit of responsibility for themselves ?

    In this particular case... (assuming the case is real and not fake, which I personnally doubt)

    1. Cancel the credit card (the one used for eso+ for both acoounts)
    2. Get a new credit card for yourself and don't give your wife its information
    3. Get a new DEBIT card with limited debit for both your subs (or use a different service with limited debit like Paypal, Steamwallet, etc.)

    Problem solved.
    Above method works also with children, gambling addicts, etc.

    Exactly. Lock it down. If she's a 42 year old woman she should show a bit of self restraint anyway, but if that's impossible you do it for her. Even if ZOS complies do you think it will be instantly?

    Here's my question ... do all of these people calling ZOS out for feeding into their problems understand that internet gambling - or I guess shopping in this case - exists everywhere? What's next, are you gonna call Amazon and tell them to stop selling shiny objects?

    Grow up people.

    I can take care of me and my wife and nothing will happen, don't worry.

    But I am pretty sure some people will end up paying loads of money for one item they want and still not have it.

    But ok go ahead, dismiss an idea to put an optional lock in it. It's a good idea and won't hurt anyone. To bad some people who can take responsible actions for them selves think everybody in the world must be able to do it to. If that was the case here wouldn't be so many drug/alcohol/gambling addicts.



    I don't think it's a bad idea at all. I just don't think you're gonna see it any time soon.

    And there would be way less addicts if people around them provided the help they need first instead of asking corporations or threatening to kill people like you did earlier. How about a talk with her first?
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    ugh my gifs are not working how dare they.

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    Edited by AnviOfVai on December 2, 2016 1:12PM
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