ForsakenSin wrote: »@hedna123b14_ESO
LOL thanx
Ohh man did it fell good kicking him out TWICE ! ... soo.. good i have to admit i was laughing so hard served him his own medicine ..
but here is the funny part... its not the fact he was getting killed first .. i can deal with that but the problem was the negativity listening to all of it all the time ... and brings the mood down of everybody makes you pay less attention the moral is low and you and others make silly mistakes.
I played with low cp players its not a big deal but when they die for example they encourage us high cp they start yelling " GO YOU GUYS YOU GOT THIS SHOW THIS @#$% WHO IS THE BOSS" and i know everybody is like " yhea we got this lets do it!!" the moral is high and you have that surge of confidence you pay more attention.
If he was like that we could of 3 man it but 40 min of constant negativity blaming others swearing putting everybody down ... when he dies he starts talking " ohh great i died again cos of lightning wall.. why do i bother playing @#$ game you guys are going to die the tank is crap he dose not know what to do the healer is not healing .. ohh see see see i told you he will die! why do i bother ... " and all you want to scream on top of your lungs is "SSSHHHHUUUTTT UUUPPP!!! "
The entire group was running around like mad men on the first Gargoyle changing boss (I forget his name) because the tank could not hold aggro.
-We worked around it and made it through to the final boss, although encountering the same issue at all the bosses and mob pulls...
At the final boss, we hit hard mode for the pledge. And the "tank" goes to the yellow centurion and engages it while the blue is shooting his AoE and the red is chasing ANYONE in sight because the tank does not taunt and kite them away.. I get it, the red guy hits pretty hard and the Yellow has a really strong heavy it charges up - its not an easy task (I've not tanked before, so i'm assuming its not easy, but manageable).
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EDIT: So as I read on, i see that the Gargoyle boss, Quintus, cannot be taunted at all times? So that makes me feel better about the tank in my group, but still does not explain the rest of the mob pulls and bosses in the dungeon... No reason a Sorc DPS should be getting focus healed, and casting his wards because he is taking the brute of the boss dmg.
Some of those CP561+ players who don't know the mechanics for vet dungeons do so because since they started playing, all the way up to One Tamriel, most of the mechanics for vet dungeons could be ignored completely and burnt through before they even appeared. It's especially true for those doing the old 'normal' dungeons.
Even for those of us who were around before Tamriel Unlimited have mostly forgotten the mechanics and were taken by surprise at some of them again so just be aware when insulting "pro" players on mechanics that most of them are in a similar position to new players purely by having played the game long enough to have forgotten previously meaningless mechanics.

Good that you know already that Gargoyle don't let you hold aggro, but about last boss... I saw few tactics, but mostly tank taunted only yellow boss. Cause he does one-shot with his 2h weapon or arm, whatever. Tank don't taunt red, cause it's easy to avoid him, and blue is just shooting, what is easy to avoid too. So usually in my parties dps killed first red, then yellow and blue finally. But I guess it doesn't matter if you kill yellow first. So he actually was a good tank... Cause only pro tanks are able to have 2 of these taunted and still live. Maybe healer was bad, if he was letting you die or dps weren't survivable... Please, don't insult someone who do his job, if you don't know tactics. Actually it looks like you were the 'bad pugs' here
I was tanking a pug run and accused of not doing any damage once lol
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »My worst experience with dungeons was today. I got beyond super trolled by ZOSes random normal dungeon queue finder on my at the time level 32 stamsorc.
Queue one CoS.
Queue two ICP
Queue three WGT
more then four hours later got VoM
Each time I instantly left group of course without a single word. Learned from doing this mistake last time in a similar situation. All I have to say is WHY ZOS WHY!? WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME!? IS THIS SOMETHING FUNNY TO YOU!? honestly why must I suffer such just because I"m a paying member who has DLC access. Can you atleast give people like me the option to opt out from DLC dungeons in the random normal dungeon queue finder? PLEASE ZOS PLEASE!
Ok my vented rant is over now. But seriously why is there no option to opt out of DLC dungeons in normal queue under level 30 at least? Bad enoth as a DPS I have to wait a minimal of 45 mins per queue. Making completing random normal impossible unless I can pull 2 dpsers worth of DPS on my poor low level stamsorc.
Love the stories about the "Bow Healer" and the healer that had to tank, heal and dps lol
You just can't make this stuff up
WhitePawPrints wrote: »I have a great one to add that happened last night.
Vet Dungeon Spindleclutch II. This is a very easy dungeon, and I've done it more times than I care for. I queue and have our healer and one DPS barely above 100cp, which is fine. I am used to having low levels and when in Vet dungeons, they usually know what to do. As a tank, I can usually overcome a little noobishness.
So we get to the second boss, that wraith that I don't care to remember the name of. Before the wraith appears, there's all those spawns. We kill the spiders fine, I guess but then when the elite red ghost figures appear is where we have trouble. I have most melees on me to the point I'm surrounded and cannot really pull anything else easily unless something dies, or unless I pull the spawns on me out of position. Our low DPS dies and the group ends up wiping, on the adds! The low DPS that died said that it was a tanking issue that I didn't aggro the Big Rabbi guy that was chasing him. A single add.
On the second wipe, was because the boss spawned before the adds were cleared. At this point, wiping on a very easy boss, I start contemplating going on my DPS to get it done but then that'd leave this incredibly squishy group with no tank. The low DPS freaks out and completely raged in the group chat. The other DPS told me to kick him and so I initiated the kick a couple times before he finally was kicked. His defense was "I'm a two handed single target DPS" and that DPS was not the problem. I just face-palmed at that.
After we kick him, the healer mentions that this guy is streaming and still raging about it. I thought that was funny, but we continued with our replacement DPS, killed the adds, the boss without a single player dying on the first try. Through a couple more mobs, we hear that he's submitting a customer support ticket for being kicked. I thought that was hilarious, so we all, including the replacement, went to his stream to watch. We LITERALLY stopped the dungeon several minutes just to watch that entertainment - never seen someone rage so hard and try to blame everyone else with such desperation!
That's when I saw him replay the fight he was killed by the Big Rabbi, and he literally was running away from the add from one end to the other. No self sustain, didn't kill it, didn't stack on heals or the other DPS damage and didn't keep him close that would have made it possible for me to taunt it without moving the other adds out of position. Through the stream, this player kept saying that "play as I want" and "why can I queue for vet dungeon", etc.
Probably the most epic and entertaining bad player experience I have ever personally witnessed. And this player was doing the dungeon just for the daily bonus XP for doing randoms. So at the end I informed him that he'd get the same XP reward from doing a random normal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IGxvvkPNms SolarCat02 wrote: »Kudos to you for volunteering to do the Ritual run. It's so difficult to get people to volunteer for that. If I am not the raid leader, I usually end up being one of the runners simply because everyone else refuses to do it, and I am the healer! But so many people are afraid to just assign someone, and nobody wants to volunteer.
SolarCat02 wrote: »Kudos to you for volunteering to do the Ritual run. It's so difficult to get people to volunteer for that. If I am not the raid leader, I usually end up being one of the runners simply because everyone else refuses to do it, and I am the healer! But so many people are afraid to just assign someone, and nobody wants to volunteer.
a big issue is, speed. you have to be speedy to do it and a lot of people run magicka dps which excluding sorcs are very nonspeedy and sorcs have issue with it being a set ranged teleport not running which can be tricky if one doenst know the area extremely well. so basically what i am saying you really want some stamina runners.
KingDuncanVII wrote: »@ForsakenSin We need more ESO players like you. People are so rude these days. It's hard to be a newbie because everyone has this negative elitist mentality that makes ESO unfun at times. When I was a newbie, I was more concerned with leveling up and not being newbie more than I was enjoying the content of the game. Gaming shouldn't ever feel like that - so thank you for going against the grain with kindness.
disintegr8 wrote: »PUG's is PUG's - if they annoy you too much, don't use the grouping tool.
If you pick 11 random people from a large group who happen to be at a park on a Saturday afternoon wanting to play soccer (football to most of you), you may have a team that can manage to play a few games but they are not going to make it to the world cup. If you want more, you need to take a look at where you are recruiting from.
I am more likely to want to kick a high CP player who thinks they know it all and races of to do their own thing than a level 15 who is learning and communicating.
ForsakenSin wrote: »LOl
Speaking of epic stories .... or epic rage
the other day i was doing pledge mazzuma with one cp 300 healer cp 360 i think and a tank 500 ... anyway eveything was going ok no problems we were doing fine .. i did get stuck on the tree and i had to log in log out to go back to start and then run again not a problem they were nice and waited .. at last boss it all went down hill ....
So as we died a few times as cp 300 was not on the mic the healer she wanted to kick him out.. i declined as we were doing good just need to kill the pillars more quick .. got wiped out again few times she wanted to kick him out i declined as it took us a while to to get to the end and as its a pledge i still felt back to kick the low cp ..and we can do it.
so we got her the phase 2 when the Xal-Nur shows up and it was just bad luck we got killed,....so the healer she wanted to kick the low cp300 again and i was against it .. i told her wait let me change few things to gain even more dps and we can do it.. she goes ok fine.... i done changing i go out of my inventory just to notice im not longer in group and others are not next to me as well... she disbanded the group ... cos i didn't want to kick the low end cp 300 ....
WOW just wow lol so i lost like 1 hr of playing
Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »ForsakenSin wrote: »LOl
Speaking of epic stories .... or epic rage
the other day i was doing pledge mazzuma with one cp 300 healer cp 360 i think and a tank 500 ... anyway eveything was going ok no problems we were doing fine .. i did get stuck on the tree and i had to log in log out to go back to start and then run again not a problem they were nice and waited .. at last boss it all went down hill ....
So as we died a few times as cp 300 was not on the mic the healer she wanted to kick him out.. i declined as we were doing good just need to kill the pillars more quick .. got wiped out again few times she wanted to kick him out i declined as it took us a while to to get to the end and as its a pledge i still felt back to kick the low cp ..and we can do it.
so we got her the phase 2 when the Xal-Nur shows up and it was just bad luck we got killed,....so the healer she wanted to kick the low cp300 again and i was against it .. i told her wait let me change few things to gain even more dps and we can do it.. she goes ok fine.... i done changing i go out of my inventory just to notice im not longer in group and others are not next to me as well... she disbanded the group ... cos i didn't want to kick the low end cp 300 ....
WOW just wow lol so i lost like 1 hr of playing
Think they might've voted to kick you. I know it's terrible logic and even a betrayal from the 300 DPS but if you're the leader in activity finder it does not let you disband group. I'm usually leader as tank and I've tested multiple times but you cannot disband the group.
So likely they kicked you, people take it easy but me it pi**es me off that noobs you help run through by declining vote to kicks and yet they kick you, the guy carrying the group with his bare back. Why? Likely someone initiates it (healer in your case) and the others likely not check and just accept this kicking you out. Doesn't happen often but it really irks me when it does.
ForsakenSin wrote: »Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »ForsakenSin wrote: »LOl
Speaking of epic stories .... or epic rage
the other day i was doing pledge mazzuma with one cp 300 healer cp 360 i think and a tank 500 ... anyway eveything was going ok no problems we were doing fine .. i did get stuck on the tree and i had to log in log out to go back to start and then run again not a problem they were nice and waited .. at last boss it all went down hill ....
So as we died a few times as cp 300 was not on the mic the healer she wanted to kick him out.. i declined as we were doing good just need to kill the pillars more quick .. got wiped out again few times she wanted to kick him out i declined as it took us a while to to get to the end and as its a pledge i still felt back to kick the low cp ..and we can do it.
so we got her the phase 2 when the Xal-Nur shows up and it was just bad luck we got killed,....so the healer she wanted to kick the low cp300 again and i was against it .. i told her wait let me change few things to gain even more dps and we can do it.. she goes ok fine.... i done changing i go out of my inventory just to notice im not longer in group and others are not next to me as well... she disbanded the group ... cos i didn't want to kick the low end cp 300 ....
WOW just wow lol so i lost like 1 hr of playing
Think they might've voted to kick you. I know it's terrible logic and even a betrayal from the 300 DPS but if you're the leader in activity finder it does not let you disband group. I'm usually leader as tank and I've tested multiple times but you cannot disband the group.
So likely they kicked you, people take it easy but me it pi**es me off that noobs you help run through by declining vote to kicks and yet they kick you, the guy carrying the group with his bare back. Why? Likely someone initiates it (healer in your case) and the others likely not check and just accept this kicking you out. Doesn't happen often but it really irks me when it does.
AHAHAHAHAHAAH As i never tried to disband a group so i have no idea but if that is true then that makes it even more funny story then , then anything ! AHAHAHAHAAH
Im not sure but she was the only one left i was not able to see anybody there.
Ive had a quick look and i think you can disband group in activity finder on Xbox one.. need to check that...
But what ever the case is you are right i was shocked doing most DPS last to die and helping low end cp rez them and to be kicked out i find it sooo funny