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  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    LOL thanx

    Ohh man did it fell good kicking him out TWICE ! ... soo.. good i have to admit i was laughing so hard served him his own medicine ..

    but here is the funny part... its not the fact he was getting killed first .. i can deal with that but the problem was the negativity listening to all of it all the time ... and brings the mood down of everybody makes you pay less attention the moral is low and you and others make silly mistakes.

    I played with low cp players its not a big deal but when they die for example they encourage us high cp they start yelling " GO YOU GUYS YOU GOT THIS SHOW THIS @#$% WHO IS THE BOSS" and i know everybody is like " yhea we got this lets do it!!" the moral is high and you have that surge of confidence you pay more attention.

    If he was like that we could of 3 man it but 40 min of constant negativity blaming others swearing putting everybody down ... when he dies he starts talking " ohh great i died again cos of lightning wall.. why do i bother playing @#$ game you guys are going to die the tank is crap he dose not know what to do the healer is not healing .. ohh see see see i told you he will die! why do i bother ... " and all you want to scream on top of your lungs is "SSSHHHHUUUTTT UUUPPP!!! "

    I pug dungeons every day...sometimes its good players, sometimes its bad players, sometimes its OP players and sometime its ine,perienced players. The only time I kick people is if they lie to me (say they know the fight when they really dont even though I state that we wont kick people ever for inexperience) or if they make the same mistake over and over again after repeated explanation.

    But Im definitely for helping people learn and explaining things.
  • Eshja
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    jkolb2030 wrote: »
    The entire group was running around like mad men on the first Gargoyle changing boss (I forget his name) because the tank could not hold aggro.
    -We worked around it and made it through to the final boss, although encountering the same issue at all the bosses and mob pulls...

    At the final boss, we hit hard mode for the pledge. And the "tank" goes to the yellow centurion and engages it while the blue is shooting his AoE and the red is chasing ANYONE in sight because the tank does not taunt and kite them away.. I get it, the red guy hits pretty hard and the Yellow has a really strong heavy it charges up - its not an easy task (I've not tanked before, so i'm assuming its not easy, but manageable).
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    EDIT: So as I read on, i see that the Gargoyle boss, Quintus, cannot be taunted at all times? So that makes me feel better about the tank in my group, but still does not explain the rest of the mob pulls and bosses in the dungeon... No reason a Sorc DPS should be getting focus healed, and casting his wards because he is taking the brute of the boss dmg.

    Good that you know already that Gargoyle don't let you hold aggro, but about last boss... I saw few tactics, but mostly tank taunted only yellow boss. Cause he does one-shot with his 2h weapon or arm, whatever. Tank don't taunt red, cause it's easy to avoid him, and blue is just shooting, what is easy to avoid too. So usually in my parties dps killed first red, then yellow and blue finally. But I guess it doesn't matter if you kill yellow first. So he actually was a good tank... Cause only pro tanks are able to have 2 of these taunted and still live. Maybe healer was bad, if he was letting you die or dps weren't survivable... Please, don't insult someone who do his job, if you don't know tactics. Actually it looks like you were the 'bad pugs' here.

    I don't want to insult anyone, but it's not okay for me to say that someone isn't good player if you're not sure you're right. I mean everything what he was doing is doing by most of tanks in this dung. But last boss is quite hard, need to say that.

    Again, I didn't want to insult you, just wanted to show you the opposite perspective.
    Edited by Eshja on November 28, 2016 11:34PM
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  • Junipus
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    Some of those CP561+ players who don't know the mechanics for vet dungeons do so because since they started playing, all the way up to One Tamriel, most of the mechanics for vet dungeons could be ignored completely and burnt through before they even appeared. It's especially true for those doing the old 'normal' dungeons.

    Even for those of us who were around before Tamriel Unlimited have mostly forgotten the mechanics and were taken by surprise at some of them again so just be aware when insulting "pro" players on mechanics that most of them are in a similar position to new players purely by having played the game long enough to have forgotten previously meaningless mechanics.
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  • ForsakenSin
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    Junipus wrote: »
    Some of those CP561+ players who don't know the mechanics for vet dungeons do so because since they started playing, all the way up to One Tamriel, most of the mechanics for vet dungeons could be ignored completely and burnt through before they even appeared. It's especially true for those doing the old 'normal' dungeons.

    Even for those of us who were around before Tamriel Unlimited have mostly forgotten the mechanics and were taken by surprise at some of them again so just be aware when insulting "pro" players on mechanics that most of them are in a similar position to new players purely by having played the game long enough to have forgotten previously meaningless mechanics.


    I agree with this as allot of Cp 560 players who die allot in dungeons are PVP players and now must run to get the items they need as they are BOP items and chance you get it is 1-641 however this is off topic

    For me its fine if they are cp from 100- 560 and if they die many times or don't know the mechanics and willing to learn however its when regardless of CP they are acting like Gods greatest gift to games and put other people down for their mistakes.


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  • Synfaer
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    Good that you know already that Gargoyle don't let you hold aggro, but about last boss... I saw few tactics, but mostly tank taunted only yellow boss. Cause he does one-shot with his 2h weapon or arm, whatever. Tank don't taunt red, cause it's easy to avoid him, and blue is just shooting, what is easy to avoid too. So usually in my parties dps killed first red, then yellow and blue finally. But I guess it doesn't matter if you kill yellow first. So he actually was a good tank... Cause only pro tanks are able to have 2 of these taunted and still live. Maybe healer was bad, if he was letting you die or dps weren't survivable... Please, don't insult someone who do his job, if you don't know tactics. Actually it looks like you were the 'bad pugs' here

    You can actually taunt the Gargoyle phase but not the first phase or the second phase (when he uses the fire staff). As to the 3 centurians, only the yellow can be taunted.
  • Artemiisia
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    Delimber wrote: »
    I was tanking a pug run and accused of not doing any damage once lol

    looool u such a noob, why u dont do damage as tank....... I expect at least 20k dps from tanks o:)

    Some people dont have to much patience, and thats needed when u doing pug dungeons/raids especially through group finder.

    Would say there are some stuff u cant do, like last night we had a healer trying to heal with a bow in vHel Ra, that just dont cut it B)
  • MAOofDC
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    Okay I got a funny/horror PuG run story. I was running one of my newer alts a Templar, he is geared to be a healer and ranged DPS. Level 50 with max CPs, thanks to my main, but I'm still leveling the actual skills so light armor, resto and destro skills are in the high 40's but not fully maxed yet, and a couple of the skills are not even morphed yet.

    Anyway I was running a random normal Crypt of Hearts so I knew the fights SUPER well from my DPS main. The "tank" was a DK with 160+ CPs he was the party leader and had a buddy in the party. I kinda knew there was trouble when the first group of trash mobs damn near wiped us. It such a messy fight, mobs everywhere attacking everyone in the whole party and it was taking WAY to long to kill them because they were not grouped up for effective AoE's. I was barely able to maintain my magicka, I needed to use 3 magicka potions to get through fight, that alone should tell you how long the fight was with the 2 min CD on potions. He was using a two handed sword the whole time, I figured the "tank" was just being lazy and not taunting the trash or maybe he was leveling up his 2H skill. We had two high CP DPS and maybe he thought we could just burn the trash down no problem. So we muddle through the trash until we get to the first boss, At this point I figure he'll break out the 1H and shield NOPE he pulls the boss. The boss makes one swipe at tank then the VERY first spell the DPS cast pulls the aggro. For the rest of the fight the DPS are trading the boss aggro. I'm spamming heals and DPS is running the boss back to the "tank" we were all doing all the right things but the boss just wouldn't leave the DPS alone and the "tank" NEVER got the boss back. By some miracle we down the boss. So here is a fairly accurate but paraphrased version of our conversation.

    Me "Hey man why are you not using 1H and shield, are you just using Inner Fire to taunt the boss?" Him "What is Inner Fire?" Me "It's one of the only two taunts in the game, very important skills if you want to be a tank." Him "Oh, no I'm not" Me, "Okay do you have a shield and one hand weapon you can use?" Him "I have a 1H but no shield." Me "Here take this random blue BoE one I just picked up." <he takes item and equips it so now it's bound> Me "Okay slot Puncture and Inner Fire if you have the required Undaunted level." Him "Where do I find the skills? I don't remember where to find them." Me "The first one in 1H line and the 3rd one in the Undaunted line." Him "Oh I don't have those skills or any skill points." <Facepalm> Me "So why did you queue up as a tank if you didn't have the skills needed?" Him "I kept getting kicked for having bad DPS so I figured I'll tank instead. "

    The kick vote failed because of his buddy refusing to kick him. I asked "Anyone got a shield they can give me?" The other DPS who was going WTF in tells to me only stayed because I told him to not stress I got this, just happened to have a white one. I take it and with a white sword the only 1h weapon I had, I use a skill point I had been saving for a morph I knew was going be available very soon. I get Puncture and proceed to tank, heal and do more than a little DPS (more than the "tank") for the rest of the dungeon.

    Thank the Gods that Temps are stupidly OP in PvE and can do all three jobs at once. So that's my most recent and memorable PuG horror story I have.
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  • schroed360
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    My worst experience with dungeons was today. I got beyond super trolled by ZOSes random normal dungeon queue finder on my at the time level 32 stamsorc.

    Queue one CoS.

    Queue two ICP

    Queue three WGT

    more then four hours later got VoM

    Each time I instantly left group of course without a single word. Learned from doing this mistake last time in a similar situation. All I have to say is WHY ZOS WHY!? WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME!? IS THIS SOMETHING FUNNY TO YOU!? honestly why must I suffer such just because I"m a paying member who has DLC access. Can you atleast give people like me the option to opt out from DLC dungeons in the random normal dungeon queue finder? PLEASE ZOS PLEASE!

    Ok my vented rant is over now. But seriously why is there no option to opt out of DLC dungeons in normal queue under level 30 at least? Bad enoth as a DPS I have to wait a minimal of 45 mins per queue. Making completing random normal impossible unless I can pull 2 dpsers worth of DPS on my poor low level stamsorc.

    I probably can explain what happen to you. Since one tamriel is there, an achievement ask you to complete 100 dlc dungeon run. Since a lot of player don t want to pug them in vet. They do it in normal with finder set in specific for the pledge.
    Also to farm weapon it s just more efficient to do it in normal.

    So you might not just leave asap as you were before cause nowaday usually there is at least one experienced and good player in the team.
    And a good player can almost solo those dungeon except for usually one boss mechanic... Switch aggro on flame atro in wgt, interrupt add on one boss in cos, being healed while carrying poison in rom, only icp is à bit harder due to Overfiend hiting hard even in normal and flesh scuptor mechanic.

    I m at 40/100 and have only had 3 bad experience ,2 being in icp in vet due to me thinking " those are easy and well know by now..." Obviously i was wrong^^.
    So that is only one in normal cos cause interrupt mechanic.
    That practice may be becoming more and more common since on the last few day i end up in full experienced group destroying the dungeon in normal whereas the group clearly could have handle vet....felt bad for kena , i did not knew that you could kill her before the first shield phase.
  • Delimber
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    Love the stories about the "Bow Healer" and the healer that had to tank, heal and dps lol

    You just can't make this stuff up :D
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  • MAOofDC
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    Delimber wrote: »
    Love the stories about the "Bow Healer" and the healer that had to tank, heal and dps lol

    You just can't make this stuff up :D

    Glad you enjoyed my triple threat healer story.

    So I was thinking more about some of the bad players I've encountered recently, and I'm wondering if this is a symptom of players leveling by grinding only? Not even questing just grinding, I've already encountered more that a few people who haven't even done all of their factions zone quests. I mean if you spend days on end only killing the same mobs using the same tactics and skills to get to CP 160 ASAP, some people can't break out of that mold they created for themselves quickly enough (if ever) to figure out what works for trash mobs at (pick your favorite grind spot) won't work for even trash mobs in a dungeon. The trash mobs in a dungeon are harder than the average mob found in the zones and forget about dealing with a boss that requires knowledge of and proper implementation of mechanics. For example I helped a lvl 21 player run his first dungeon the other day and he didn't even know you could repair gear all he had done up to that point was replace his gear with stuff he picked up and run to town every so often and sell stuff when bags were full. Occasionally have someone port him to a new grind spot. After we ran the dungeon he asked me if I knew a new grind spot because the one he was at had "gotten old and boring", I hate to say it I gave him a suggestion and even helped him port there.
    Edited by MAOofDC on December 1, 2016 2:35PM
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  • WhitePawPrints
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    I have a great one to add that happened last night.

    Vet Dungeon Spindleclutch II. This is a very easy dungeon, and I've done it more times than I care for. I queue and have our healer and one DPS barely above 100cp, which is fine. I am used to having low levels and when in Vet dungeons, they usually know what to do. As a tank, I can usually overcome a little noobishness.

    So we get to the second boss, that wraith that I don't care to remember the name of. Before the wraith appears, there's all those spawns. We kill the spiders fine, I guess but then when the elite red ghost figures appear is where we have trouble. I have most melees on me to the point I'm surrounded and cannot really pull anything else easily unless something dies, or unless I pull the spawns on me out of position. Our low DPS dies and the group ends up wiping, on the adds! The low DPS that died said that it was a tanking issue that I didn't aggro the Big Rabbi guy that was chasing him. A single add.

    On the second wipe, was because the boss spawned before the adds were cleared. At this point, wiping on a very easy boss, I start contemplating going on my DPS to get it done but then that'd leave this incredibly squishy group with no tank. The low DPS freaks out and completely raged in the group chat. The other DPS told me to kick him and so I initiated the kick a couple times before he finally was kicked. His defense was "I'm a two handed single target DPS" and that DPS was not the problem. I just face-palmed at that.

    After we kick him, the healer mentions that this guy is streaming and still raging about it. I thought that was funny, but we continued with our replacement DPS, killed the adds, the boss without a single player dying on the first try. Through a couple more mobs, we hear that he's submitting a customer support ticket for being kicked. I thought that was hilarious, so we all, including the replacement, went to his stream to watch. We LITERALLY stopped the dungeon several minutes just to watch that entertainment - never seen someone rage so hard and try to blame everyone else with such desperation!

    That's when I saw him replay the fight he was killed by the Big Rabbi, and he literally was running away from the add from one end to the other. No self sustain, didn't kill it, didn't stack on heals or the other DPS damage and didn't keep him close that would have made it possible for me to taunt it without moving the other adds out of position. Through the stream, this player kept saying that "play as I want" and "why can I queue for vet dungeon", etc.

    Probably the most epic and entertaining bad player experience I have ever personally witnessed. And this player was doing the dungeon just for the daily bonus XP for doing randoms. So at the end I informed him that he'd get the same XP reward from doing a random normal.
  • Zypheran
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    Its interesting reading through the stories and the rants. There are two groups complaining about PUGs. Those that have had their game ruined by encountered angry players giving out about people not doing their jobs and those that are angry and ranting about people not doing their jobs. The latter group are always the most vocal. All I hear in my head when reading the rants from the latter group is "If you're not up the standard I think you should be at then you're not worthy to play with me and by God I'm gonna be vocal about it!"
    So you're playing the game longer and know all the mechanics and have maxed your character and your just SUPER!
    Kudos to you, but lay of the people who are still trying to learn the game. If you don't have the patience to play with people who aren't up to the standard you think you're at, then DONT USE GROUP FINDER!
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  • MAOofDC
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    I have a great one to add that happened last night.

    Vet Dungeon Spindleclutch II. This is a very easy dungeon, and I've done it more times than I care for. I queue and have our healer and one DPS barely above 100cp, which is fine. I am used to having low levels and when in Vet dungeons, they usually know what to do. As a tank, I can usually overcome a little noobishness.

    So we get to the second boss, that wraith that I don't care to remember the name of. Before the wraith appears, there's all those spawns. We kill the spiders fine, I guess but then when the elite red ghost figures appear is where we have trouble. I have most melees on me to the point I'm surrounded and cannot really pull anything else easily unless something dies, or unless I pull the spawns on me out of position. Our low DPS dies and the group ends up wiping, on the adds! The low DPS that died said that it was a tanking issue that I didn't aggro the Big Rabbi guy that was chasing him. A single add.

    On the second wipe, was because the boss spawned before the adds were cleared. At this point, wiping on a very easy boss, I start contemplating going on my DPS to get it done but then that'd leave this incredibly squishy group with no tank. The low DPS freaks out and completely raged in the group chat. The other DPS told me to kick him and so I initiated the kick a couple times before he finally was kicked. His defense was "I'm a two handed single target DPS" and that DPS was not the problem. I just face-palmed at that.

    After we kick him, the healer mentions that this guy is streaming and still raging about it. I thought that was funny, but we continued with our replacement DPS, killed the adds, the boss without a single player dying on the first try. Through a couple more mobs, we hear that he's submitting a customer support ticket for being kicked. I thought that was hilarious, so we all, including the replacement, went to his stream to watch. We LITERALLY stopped the dungeon several minutes just to watch that entertainment - never seen someone rage so hard and try to blame everyone else with such desperation!

    That's when I saw him replay the fight he was killed by the Big Rabbi, and he literally was running away from the add from one end to the other. No self sustain, didn't kill it, didn't stack on heals or the other DPS damage and didn't keep him close that would have made it possible for me to taunt it without moving the other adds out of position. Through the stream, this player kept saying that "play as I want" and "why can I queue for vet dungeon", etc.

    Probably the most epic and entertaining bad player experience I have ever personally witnessed. And this player was doing the dungeon just for the daily bonus XP for doing randoms. So at the end I informed him that he'd get the same XP reward from doing a random normal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IGxvvkPNms
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  • KingDuncanVII
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    @ForsakenSin We need more ESO players like you. People are so rude these days. It's hard to be a newbie because everyone has this negative elitist mentality that makes ESO unfun at times. When I was a newbie, I was more concerned with leveling up and not being newbie more than I was enjoying the content of the game. Gaming shouldn't ever feel like that - so thank you for going against the grain with kindness.
    Edited by KingDuncanVII on December 1, 2016 4:05PM
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  • AzuraKin
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    SolarCat02 wrote: »
    Kudos to you for volunteering to do the Ritual run. It's so difficult to get people to volunteer for that. If I am not the raid leader, I usually end up being one of the runners simply because everyone else refuses to do it, and I am the healer! But so many people are afraid to just assign someone, and nobody wants to volunteer.

    a big issue is, speed. you have to be speedy to do it and a lot of people run magicka dps which excluding sorcs are very nonspeedy and sorcs have issue with it being a set ranged teleport not running which can be tricky if one doenst know the area extremely well. so basically what i am saying you really want some stamina runners.
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  • SolarCat02
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    AzuraKin wrote: »
    SolarCat02 wrote: »
    Kudos to you for volunteering to do the Ritual run. It's so difficult to get people to volunteer for that. If I am not the raid leader, I usually end up being one of the runners simply because everyone else refuses to do it, and I am the healer! But so many people are afraid to just assign someone, and nobody wants to volunteer.

    a big issue is, speed. you have to be speedy to do it and a lot of people run magicka dps which excluding sorcs are very nonspeedy and sorcs have issue with it being a set ranged teleport not running which can be tricky if one doenst know the area extremely well. so basically what i am saying you really want some stamina runners.

    Actually, the synergy also speeds you up, similar to rapid movement. When I run the Ritual on my healer, I only missed an add once, and that was because I missed my queue and didn't run in until half the timer was up. (My fault.) The cat was on the very last marker, so I unveiled it but didn't kill it in time.

    Another runner was a magicka Sorc. He kept missing cats from streaking to the next one before the hidden one resolved. He ran his route twice in a row, and this was using two runners rather than three. He just didn't have the patience to let them unveil before running to the next.

    Veteran might be a different story, maybe you have less time on that one. But normal, anyone can do it as long as your game isn't lagging.
    Why be normal when you can be better?

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  • ForsakenSin
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    @KingDuncanVII
    @ForsakenSin We need more ESO players like you. People are so rude these days. It's hard to be a newbie because everyone has this negative elitist mentality that makes ESO unfun at times. When I was a newbie, I was more concerned with leveling up and not being newbie more than I was enjoying the content of the game. Gaming shouldn't ever feel like that - so thank you for going against the grain with kindness.




    Thanx buddy for kind words and I agree with that, people should enjoy the game and not been afraid they will be kicked out due to elits and mentality of some people.

    The way is see it is this way , my build is close to be finished just need two items in right trait , i can self heal ,self sustain, my dps is OP and due to this i know my build is amazing and what its capable of and what its limits are. ( took me months of theory crafting and over 600k in experimentation and combinations lol)

    But due to the build most of vet dungeons i can 2 man or 3 man which means i can help and carry low cp levels no problem this is why i never care what cp rank they are ( just be nice no negativity or attitude lol) ... people forget .. its not so much about CP rank and gear its all about the player..

    . ive had once a cp 140 healer in a pug that people wanted to kick him out right away without giving him a chance and i denied it and that guy was just amazing throwing shards ON POINT ... and i don't mean in the start of the fight when your stam is full i mean after like 15 sec or so and every time on point it was so amazing it was like a set routine like a perfect dance lol.

    And yet i had a magica temp healer cp 560 with golden gear who qued up as healer ( he was bragging how he has this and that) .. and on fights would be just doing jabbs and not throw down shards ... not heal in time and would go after the adds which mean he was not able to cover us ... hell he didn't even rez other people when he had window of opportunity ... and when he was asked by one of the guys "why didn't you heal me".. he replied " lol ran out of magica" .... and when asked " so why are you using dps instead of heal" he replied.." i know what im doing and use vigor next time you will be fine"

    ...i guess he didn't get that 2 dps and tank kept alive would do more way way damage then him as selfish healer doing jabs and letting people die and re setting.


    Honestly i would be so SOOOo embarrassed if i was a cp 560 with BiS gold gear VMSA Wp and i needed other cp 560 in vet dungeons and kick low cp player.

    I just don't get it. For me the fact that im cp 560 and my gear is way WAY better then low end and is BiS and hard to get just that fact makes me fell responsible to help low end players to help them out and carry them and not fell " you are not worthy to run this with me and i need somebody else who is God like me to hold my hand and finish this dungeon in 10 min instead of 30 min as you would slow me down and i don't have time to explain to you noobs "




    hell.... we done Hel Ra on normal with random people and cp ranging from 80 to 300 and just few us were cp 560 and it went fine no problem whats so ever.



    Anyway that's my rant and sorry for it lol where was i ... oh yhea again thanx buddy for kind words.


    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • Delimber
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    Usually the gang I run with are in the 300-400+ cp range as that is what the team lead is looking for. (he and I are both in the 600+ range). But we ask for that in guild chat / zone.

    If we do have to queue for a healer or dps then we accept what we get, but we only do that for the pledge runs where we are going for 2 keys.

    The nice thing too is we tend to explain our plan to the lower level player just so they understand where we are coming from. So if they are cool with it we give the player a chance. And lets face it, one of my jobs as a tank is to keep most of the pressure off the squishies lol.

    So its a sense of pride when we all get through a dungeon run and it only costs me pennies to repair my gear. Means everyone did their job and life is great.

    The other nice thing about us is we are never in a hurry to get through the dungeon as the team lead is a hoarder lol.

    I can't remember us ever kicking someone because they were low cp. Like I said, we are choosy until we have to start begging lol.
    Solo PvP and PvE most of the time.
    CP 2700+
  • Banana
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    One of the reasons i stopped doing group content. To many whingers
  • Delimber
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    I ended up taking 2 or 3 months off from group content due to a couple of negative pug experiences. But when your guild needs you...
    Solo PvP and PvE most of the time.
    CP 2700+
  • disintegr8
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    PUG's is PUG's - if they annoy you too much, don't use the grouping tool.

    If you pick 11 random people from a large group who happen to be at a park on a Saturday afternoon wanting to play soccer (football to most of you), you may have a team that can manage to play a few games but they are not going to make it to the world cup. If you want more, you need to take a look at where you are recruiting from.

    I am more likely to want to kick a high CP player who thinks they know it all and races of to do their own thing than a level 15 who is learning and communicating.
    Australian on PS4 NA server.
    Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
  • WhitePawPrints
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    PUG's is PUG's - if they annoy you too much, don't use the grouping tool.

    If you pick 11 random people from a large group who happen to be at a park on a Saturday afternoon wanting to play soccer (football to most of you), you may have a team that can manage to play a few games but they are not going to make it to the world cup. If you want more, you need to take a look at where you are recruiting from.

    I am more likely to want to kick a high CP player who thinks they know it all and races of to do their own thing than a level 15 who is learning and communicating.

    No complaints on the Grouping Tool. It's being used what it's designed for: filling the holes in my group to get a dungeon going. The vast majority of dungeons go just fine. These are just some epic stories of what can result in playing with strangers. :3
  • ForsakenSin
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    LOl

    Speaking of epic stories .... or epic rage

    the other day i was doing pledge mazzuma with one cp 300 healer cp 360 i think and a tank 500 ... anyway eveything was going ok no problems we were doing fine .. i did get stuck on the tree and i had to log in log out to go back to start and then run again not a problem they were nice and waited .. at last boss it all went down hill ....

    So as we died a few times as cp 300 was not on the mic the healer she wanted to kick him out.. i declined as we were doing good just need to kill the pillars more quick .. got wiped out again few times she wanted to kick him out i declined as it took us a while to to get to the end and as its a pledge i still felt back to kick the low cp ..and we can do it.

    so we got her the phase 2 when the Xal-Nur shows up and it was just bad luck we got killed,....so the healer she wanted to kick the low cp300 again and i was against it .. i told her wait let me change few things to gain even more dps and we can do it.. she goes ok fine.... i done changing i go out of my inventory just to notice im not longer in group and others are not next to me as well... she disbanded the group ... cos i didn't want to kick the low end cp 300 ....

    WOW just wow lol so i lost like 1 hr of playing
    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • ForsakenSin
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    So after that i was in deshan and somebody asked if they can do Elden Hollow so i was like... sure why not... and he whispers me back... " im cp 80 are you sure you want to run with me" ... see that's the problem i fell bad low end cp think like that.... i replied back " of curse not a problem" we got another cp 300 and a healer cp 360 or so ...

    man it was funny the healer she was a smart ass the whole time teasing the cp 80 when he died, and when he died she goes what happen ... and he goes .. " i tripped on a damm rock and fell down broke my ankle and died" .... he dies again and she goes" rock again ?" or she goes " damm i just died got blasted right in the face" we all start giggling and she goes " yes THATS WHAT SHE SAID" and we just lost it .... and we had heaps of fun .. as we didn't end up having tank i had to dps/tank and i found that heaps of fun , using puncture for taunt the boss and then my dps dual weld while others are taking care of adds i got the last boss Canonreeve Oraneth from around 6 mill to 0 and it was heaps of fun .

    so yhea sometimes you get cranky inpatient players that rage quit and sometimes you get funny easy going players that finish.
    Edited by ForsakenSin on December 6, 2016 12:10AM
    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • ForsakenSin
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    Aaaa keep the stories going lol
    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • Delimber
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    I haven't done any pledges or dungeons since my return to the game a few days ago after being a month off.

    ALMOST got to tank vCoS. I was on a roll in pvp at Alessia and well when you're in the zone it's hard to walk away. But a guild mate needed a tank.

    So I relog with my tank, fire off a pm, and that is when he tells me the group has just disbanded lol.

    Story of my life lol.
    Solo PvP and PvE most of the time.
    CP 2700+
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    LOl

    Speaking of epic stories .... or epic rage

    the other day i was doing pledge mazzuma with one cp 300 healer cp 360 i think and a tank 500 ... anyway eveything was going ok no problems we were doing fine .. i did get stuck on the tree and i had to log in log out to go back to start and then run again not a problem they were nice and waited .. at last boss it all went down hill ....

    So as we died a few times as cp 300 was not on the mic the healer she wanted to kick him out.. i declined as we were doing good just need to kill the pillars more quick .. got wiped out again few times she wanted to kick him out i declined as it took us a while to to get to the end and as its a pledge i still felt back to kick the low cp ..and we can do it.

    so we got her the phase 2 when the Xal-Nur shows up and it was just bad luck we got killed,....so the healer she wanted to kick the low cp300 again and i was against it .. i told her wait let me change few things to gain even more dps and we can do it.. she goes ok fine.... i done changing i go out of my inventory just to notice im not longer in group and others are not next to me as well... she disbanded the group ... cos i didn't want to kick the low end cp 300 ....

    WOW just wow lol so i lost like 1 hr of playing

    Think they might've voted to kick you. I know it's terrible logic and even a betrayal from the 300 DPS but if you're the leader in activity finder it does not let you disband group. I'm usually leader as tank and I've tested multiple times but you cannot disband the group.

    So likely they kicked you, people take it easy but me it pi**es me off that noobs you help run through by declining vote to kicks and yet they kick you, the guy carrying the group with his bare back. Why? Likely someone initiates it (healer in your case) and the others likely not check and just accept this kicking you out. Doesn't happen often but it really irks me when it does.
    Xbox one EU
    8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
    Doesn't stand in red
  • ForsakenSin
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    LOl

    Speaking of epic stories .... or epic rage

    the other day i was doing pledge mazzuma with one cp 300 healer cp 360 i think and a tank 500 ... anyway eveything was going ok no problems we were doing fine .. i did get stuck on the tree and i had to log in log out to go back to start and then run again not a problem they were nice and waited .. at last boss it all went down hill ....

    So as we died a few times as cp 300 was not on the mic the healer she wanted to kick him out.. i declined as we were doing good just need to kill the pillars more quick .. got wiped out again few times she wanted to kick him out i declined as it took us a while to to get to the end and as its a pledge i still felt back to kick the low cp ..and we can do it.

    so we got her the phase 2 when the Xal-Nur shows up and it was just bad luck we got killed,....so the healer she wanted to kick the low cp300 again and i was against it .. i told her wait let me change few things to gain even more dps and we can do it.. she goes ok fine.... i done changing i go out of my inventory just to notice im not longer in group and others are not next to me as well... she disbanded the group ... cos i didn't want to kick the low end cp 300 ....

    WOW just wow lol so i lost like 1 hr of playing

    Think they might've voted to kick you. I know it's terrible logic and even a betrayal from the 300 DPS but if you're the leader in activity finder it does not let you disband group. I'm usually leader as tank and I've tested multiple times but you cannot disband the group.

    So likely they kicked you, people take it easy but me it pi**es me off that noobs you help run through by declining vote to kicks and yet they kick you, the guy carrying the group with his bare back. Why? Likely someone initiates it (healer in your case) and the others likely not check and just accept this kicking you out. Doesn't happen often but it really irks me when it does.



    AHAHAHAHAHAAH As i never tried to disband a group so i have no idea but if that is true then that makes it even more funny story then , then anything ! AHAHAHAHAAH

    Im not sure but she was the only one left i was not able to see anybody there.

    Ive had a quick look and i think you can disband group in activity finder on Xbox one.. need to check that...

    But what ever the case is you are right i was shocked doing most DPS last to die and helping low end cp rez them and to be kicked out i find it sooo funny
    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • Ozstryker
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    Had a weird experience last night, enter non dlc on my fledgling lvl 20 tank, had a lvl 18 healer and a lvl 11 melee.... Waiting for other dd to join us..... Waiting... Waiting, Then Boom, he drops a cp 300something, and is off like a shot, clearly on a solo speed run! We spent the entire dungeon mopping up the trash he left behind, killing the mobs that swarmed us when he died and finishing bosses that he failed on while he screeched for a res!

    Now, I had the utter audacity to whisper him;
    Me- slow down dude, it's not a race
    Him- keep up noob
    Me- we would but we are clearing up the trash u missed
    Him-your problem, a good tank would be up here with me
    Me- kidding ar'nt ya, a good dd would be here with the group
    Him-you should be thanking me for clearing the dungeon, I'm tired of carrying noobs... (He went on!)

    He then starts telling us in group chat to keep up, and if you don't like it blame the tank.... It deteriorated from there, healer starts arguing with him, other dd- silent, me, lets just get through this just don't res him when he dies..
    Eventually, we finish (while he layed dead at the last boss) he leaves.. And we qued again. We get a lvl 40something archer, and completed numerous dungeons while chatting about tactics and skills etc. basically steadily moving through, no deaths no problems.

    What i find amazing is how hypocritical higher cp guys can be sometimes, we've all seen the threads "kick low lvls"... "scrub mentality blah blah" ...."block low lvls from dlc" it goes on.... But when a low lvl group is running a low lvl dungeon and a high cp guy enters.. we should bow to their presence and run the dungeon how they wanna cos we should be in awe of their greatness?!
    I know not all are like this in fact most are quite the opposite, I know I am when I use my 400+ healer...
    In normals, the onus has to be on learning, practicing etc, not stroking some leets ego

    But, sometimes______
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    LOl

    Speaking of epic stories .... or epic rage

    the other day i was doing pledge mazzuma with one cp 300 healer cp 360 i think and a tank 500 ... anyway eveything was going ok no problems we were doing fine .. i did get stuck on the tree and i had to log in log out to go back to start and then run again not a problem they were nice and waited .. at last boss it all went down hill ....

    So as we died a few times as cp 300 was not on the mic the healer she wanted to kick him out.. i declined as we were doing good just need to kill the pillars more quick .. got wiped out again few times she wanted to kick him out i declined as it took us a while to to get to the end and as its a pledge i still felt back to kick the low cp ..and we can do it.

    so we got her the phase 2 when the Xal-Nur shows up and it was just bad luck we got killed,....so the healer she wanted to kick the low cp300 again and i was against it .. i told her wait let me change few things to gain even more dps and we can do it.. she goes ok fine.... i done changing i go out of my inventory just to notice im not longer in group and others are not next to me as well... she disbanded the group ... cos i didn't want to kick the low end cp 300 ....

    WOW just wow lol so i lost like 1 hr of playing

    Think they might've voted to kick you. I know it's terrible logic and even a betrayal from the 300 DPS but if you're the leader in activity finder it does not let you disband group. I'm usually leader as tank and I've tested multiple times but you cannot disband the group.

    So likely they kicked you, people take it easy but me it pi**es me off that noobs you help run through by declining vote to kicks and yet they kick you, the guy carrying the group with his bare back. Why? Likely someone initiates it (healer in your case) and the others likely not check and just accept this kicking you out. Doesn't happen often but it really irks me when it does.



    AHAHAHAHAHAAH As i never tried to disband a group so i have no idea but if that is true then that makes it even more funny story then , then anything ! AHAHAHAHAAH

    Im not sure but she was the only one left i was not able to see anybody there.

    Ive had a quick look and i think you can disband group in activity finder on Xbox one.. need to check that...

    But what ever the case is you are right i was shocked doing most DPS last to die and helping low end cp rez them and to be kicked out i find it sooo funny

    I play Xbox one and can't disband the group in activity finder when I'm leader.

    You could before the vote to kick feature but it doesn't let you as you don't have complete control.

    You can disband the group if you put the group together without activity finder. Also another troll thing the leader can do in activity finder is que for another dungeon istead and you have no choice but to go after 60 seconds. Very extreme and not seen it happen yet but heard some do it when they've argued just to troll the others.
    Xbox one EU
    8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
    Doesn't stand in red
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