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YOU DONT NEED 500+ OR EVEN 450CP TO GET FLAWLESS IN VMA
jubs
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This thread I am making is too give hope for you lower CP's who can't beat VMA. I've been doing VMA since 320CP on my Stamdk. and i've had flawless since 375CP.
check this out. YOU CAN DO IT TOO!
https://youtu.be/15OoxyvoKRs
feel free to ask me for tips in mail or in thread! hurry while extra drops still out!
check this out. YOU CAN DO IT TOO!
https://youtu.be/15OoxyvoKRsfeel free to ask me for tips in mail or in thread! hurry while extra drops still out!
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cpuScientist✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yea my pal got to 160 and immediately went into vma, but congrats on the flawless.Edited by cpuScientist on November 17, 2016 2:33AM0 -
runagate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nor do you necessarily need to make a title in allcaps to be a nuisance. But it helps.10 -
Qyrk✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't think people recommended that in order to get flawless, you need to be 561 (or above 500) - actually quite lower than that. I always thought that to get flawless comfortably, you should be able to get it around CP 300 and up (although less is possible but can be a bit challenging).
All in all, I think it's pretty normal that you can get it at CP 375. I never heard otherwise.
Edited by Qyrk on November 17, 2016 2:45AM0 -
FriedEggSandwich✭✭✭✭✭
✭I always thought it was designed at the 250cp level but I could be wrong. I first tried it at 220cp and got to the final boss of round 4 before I had to quit, this was before the save state and I was stubbornly trying to do it without sigils. It was a nightmare. Flawless comes after you've already completed it and are ready for the mechanics, so flawless should be possible on any character that can complete it.
Edit: gratz btw
Edited by FriedEggSandwich on November 17, 2016 3:13AMPC | EU0 -
Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you learn all the mechanics and burn all the sigils you can easily pick flawless on cp160. Its more a l2p issue than cp issue.“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
Gryphons guild - @Milvan,4 -
Spliffo✭✭✭✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »I always thought it was designed at the 250cp level but I could be wrong. I first tried it at 220cp and got to the final boss of round 4 before I had to quit, this was before the save state and I was stubbornly trying to do it without sigils. It was a nightmare. Flawless comes after you've already completed it and are ready for the mechanics, so flawless should be possible on any character that can complete it.
Edit: gratz btw
As far as I know the game is balanced at 300cp0 -
Baconfat79✭✭✭✭Memorizing the spawn points and optimal kill order is WAY more important than how many CP you have. Once you know which mobs are going to pop where, and in what order they will pop, you're golden. Memorization is by far the biggest part of vMA.4
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daswahnsinn✭✭✭What sets are you using? I see in the description section on youtube where you mention your Champ Points. And what is your basic rotation? I really want to try this on my Stam DK.| | daswahnsinn | Vet 16 Nord Dragon Knight | Bow/Dual Wield/Two-Handed Sword| DPS | | Warrior of the EbonHeart Pact | |0 -
DannyLV702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm 561 and don't have flawless but also haven't given it a serious shot. The closest I've gotten was with two deaths, both on the third stage. But then again I also don't use any potions and don't use any sigils. The only sigil I ever use is the shield that reflects stuff on the last boss after I've destroyed all the crystals. It's my way of saying "why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself?" 4 -
Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭DannyLV702 wrote: »(...) It's my way of saying "why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself?"
This hhahahahah.“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
Gryphons guild - @Milvan,1 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you can beat vMA, then you already have what it takes to get Flawless.
If you die, the round resets, so each round must be no-death. The difference between a Flawless run and non-Flawless run is that you have rounds that you need to repeat in the latter. Flawless is really about not making mistakes (and also not having bad luck--I'm looking at you, stage 7 plants) and just lots of practice until you get to the point where you don't make mistakes. CP and stats do help, but they're no substitutes for practice.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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AverageJo3Gam3r✭✭✭✭✭Congrats. I just completed vMA on my magSorc but still struggling on my StamDK. I find the incoming damage just way too high on stage 9 round 3 without a damage shield.0 -
Preyfar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm just too lazy and impatient to do it. =P I've finished it with 14/15 lives multiple times, and mostly have died to lag or just me going "Should I pop a potion? Uh... nah, I've got this. Oh. Wait. No I didn't."0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AlexTech0x wrote: »Grats, what did you get? a powered dagger?
It's still double drops in Orsinium. So probably a charged 2h maul and sharpened resto staff.0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I know a player who got Flawless Conqueror before hitting 160 CP.
Before hitting 160CP on his account? Or was this prior to the removal of vet ranks, and he got it before hitting VR16? Also, main account or alt account?
Before vet ranks were removed, I had a character beat vMA at VR1 (and I still have the VR1--now CP10--vMA weapon as a souvenir in my bank), but this happened on an account with capped CP.
If this was after VR removal, then the only way I would believe it is if it's someone on a second account who had already gotten Flawless on their main account. There is so much XP in vMA and the CP at those levels are so cheap that just a few runs of practicing the arena will get you up to 160 in no time.Edited by code65536 on November 19, 2016 12:30AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information1 -
jubs✭✭AlexTech0x wrote: »Grats, what did you get? a powered dagger?
sharpened resto, defending destro0
