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got kicked for using a bow:/
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JakelDK✭✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »
The gargoyle can be DPS'd at melee range so there was no need to be at range. In fact, being at range for that fight is probably the worst thing you can do because as that boss does it's ground smash that you're trying to stay out of, the room collapses which could result in your death. If your healer is good enough, they can heal right through the ground smash AoE. While kicking you is extreme, to be honest, if I had someone using just a bow regardless of their rotation on that fight, I'd have kicked them too.
even if you are having no problems with the dungeon? as i wrote we were killing enemies quick and none of us were low on health or died even once. i guess the difference is that some people are really focused on perfection and gamemath while others like a little more player freedom. either is fine with me as long as you treat each other in a good way i guess. as you say i could have used my mele but i deemed the bow to be a better fit for the situation and went with that. but i asked my question here on the forum and i got my answer so thank you:)3 -
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there was nothing wrong with my health and i always try to make it easy for the healer when the need arises.The only thing that really bugs me about people who use a bow is it seems they always want to stand behind me when I am healing. I used to try and move so I could see them and still concentrate on the tank but often they would just slide on around behind me again. I want to just let them die then tell them it happened because I couldn't find them but in the end I go soft and hit breath of life wasting my resources just for them.
I have never kicked someone from a group or voted yes to kick (except for long disconnects) but I have a few times after a few wipes told the group I didn't think we were going to be able to finish and then leave myself. My thinking is if I am the one unhappy with the group I should be the one that leaves. I'm always nice about it though when I do go and will give the group a few chances before deciding.
Back to the bow thing. People who use ranged attack please please please stay in front of the healer or at least in his line of sight.0 -
Zagnut123Zagnut123✭✭✭✭You can survive the gargoyle bosses bash attack for future endeavors. It is Probably as @SaibotLiu stated earlier that they just wanted to feel like they have some power in reality they dont. Don't let this get you down tho there are some quality people out there.0 -
itehache✭✭✭✭You need to elaborate and explain which skills you were using. I use a bow as a main weapon and daggers as secondary and I have never had problems for using a bow. What matters is to know when to use the bow and when not to. I am not saying I do not trust you but I am sure there was another reason other than just having a bow equipped to get kicked out from a group.0 -
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✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »Stupidity on there end
Gonna love the irony of calling people stupid and using the wrong 'their'...
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GoBlue275✭✭The other DPS in the group probably noticed he was pulling 70% of the group DPS and got tired of carrying "Bow Spammers".
Yeah, things were dying quick but they probably kicked you on principle alone.
Take the time to re-evaluate your build, do some parses and learn how to contribute to the group in your chosen role.8 -
JakelDK✭✭✭You need to elaborate and explain which skills you were using. I use a bow as a main weapon and daggers as secondary and I have never had problems for using a bow. What matters is to know when to use the bow and when not to. I am not saying I do not trust you but I am sure there was another reason other than just having a bow equipped to get kicked out from a group.
perhaps but no reason that i can think of. it just seemed strange to me and thats why i posted and i got some tips and tricks. also i will probably look on youtube to see what can be better without letting the whole min/max take the enjoyment out of the game. As to my skillbar, i did elaborate earlier in the thread.
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JakelDK✭✭✭The other DPS in the group probably noticed he was pulling 70% of the group DPS and got tired of carrying "Bow Spammers".
Yeah, things were dying quick but they probably kicked you on principle alone.
Take the time to re-evaluate your build, do some parses and learn how to contribute to the group in your chosen role.
that was not the case
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It shouldnt matter if you dont like it, if it still works, it ain't broken. Back when i was a crappy player i went into a dungeon as a low level sorc healer and we still finished it. That alone should prove that all your excuses to justify kicking is bogus.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Elara_Northwind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is why I don't play with randoms. I do the occasional group finder just for a new experience and to meet new people from time to time, but in general, no, I play with the lovely friends that I have made. From time to time, one guy will be like 'I want to try a new build on whatever' and we are all happy with that, and have allot of fun with it. If you enjoy your bow, just keep using it, don't worry about what other people say, if they don't like it, they are not worth your time
Much fun can be had playing with friends, perhaps just don't bother with these people who get so irate about a GAME and join a great guild of people who aren't such idiots
Some people speak about this game like it is some valid life skill to be able to press certain buttons in a certain way, but it is not valid in life, it is meaningless in life and is meant to be fun, so have fun, and ignore people who take the game WAY to seriously, even feel bad for them a little, because they seriously lack the fun factor and put a downer on most, if not all situations Sorcerer, Templar, Wolf Collector, Housing Addict!
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GoBlue275✭✭It shouldnt matter if you dont like it, if it still works, it ain't broken. Back when i was a crappy player i went into a dungeon as a low level sorc healer and we still finished it. That alone should prove that all your excuses to justify kicking is bogus.
It absolutely does matter. If your build is bad enough to hinder 3 other people in a group to a point where they all decide to vote yes and remove you. Spend less time crying on the forum about how you were treated badly and learn your role.2 -
Buffler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sadly if im in a dungeon with a bow spammer the first thought on my mind is "this dude has no clue what he's doing" a terrible assumption but one that most ppl make.1 -
Elara_Northwind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It shouldnt matter if you dont like it, if it still works, it ain't broken. Back when i was a crappy player i went into a dungeon as a low level sorc healer and we still finished it. That alone should prove that all your excuses to justify kicking is bogus.
It absolutely does matter. If your build is bad enough to hinder 3 other people in a group to a point where they all decide to vote yes and remove you. Spend less time crying on the forum about how you were treated badly and learn your role.
For all anyone knows, the three of them could have been friends, and known one another, and all been idiots, even if not, for three people to believe that they did have a 'bad player' in their group, the mere fact that they thought that they could not complete the dungeon with a dps with a bow is ridiculous, as most vet dungeons are easily completed with just two people.
To kick a person half way through a dungeon is a really crappy thing to do, no matter how they play. Every character is a person in the end, and every person deserves respect. If they did not agree with something he did, they could have nicely spoken to him about it first, they did not have to just kick him, that is really ******.Sorcerer, Templar, Wolf Collector, Housing Addict!
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It shouldnt matter if you dont like it, if it still works, it ain't broken. Back when i was a crappy player i went into a dungeon as a low level sorc healer and we still finished it. That alone should prove that all your excuses to justify kicking is bogus.
It absolutely does matter. If your build is bad enough to hinder 3 other people in a group to a point where they all decide to vote yes and remove you. Spend less time crying on the forum about how you were treated badly and learn your role.
Was that last sentence directed at me? Cause i wasnt treated badly at all. My few groups ive experienced were quite pleasant players, unlike you, obviously. And concerning the OP, obviously his build wasnt bad as he said they got to the last boss "burning through" the mobs and with "no deaths", so obviously his build was not a hindrance.
This is nothing more than another blatant example of rampant elitism.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Vythri✭✭✭✭People who think using a bow doesn't work are just ignorant.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/noss-bo-bo-stamblade-pve-guide/5 -
JakelDK✭✭✭It shouldnt matter if you dont like it, if it still works, it ain't broken. Back when i was a crappy player i went into a dungeon as a low level sorc healer and we still finished it. That alone should prove that all your excuses to justify kicking is bogus.
It absolutely does matter. If your build is bad enough to hinder 3 other people in a group to a point where they all decide to vote yes and remove you. Spend less time crying on the forum about how you were treated badly and learn your role.It shouldnt matter if you dont like it, if it still works, it ain't broken. Back when i was a crappy player i went into a dungeon as a low level sorc healer and we still finished it. That alone should prove that all your excuses to justify kicking is bogus.
It absolutely does matter. If your build is bad enough to hinder 3 other people in a group to a point where they all decide to vote yes and remove you. Spend less time crying on the forum about how you were treated badly and learn your role.
woah whah there captain macho:D i didn't realise i was crying on here but now i have my tissue and a blanket i feel all better! so many thanks
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JakelDK✭✭✭Sadly if im in a dungeon with a bow spammer the first thought on my mind is "this dude has no clue what he's doing" a terrible assumption but one that most ppl make.
i didn't bow spam. As stated earlier in the thread i mainly use dual wield unless the boss has ground aoe close to him. but i was interested in the general dislike for bows and if it was really an issue with a lot of players and what i can tell from the replies it seem so. thanks for your input.0 -
Ajaxduo✭✭✭✭✭People who think using a bow doesn't work are just ignorant.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/noss-bo-bo-stamblade-pve-guide/
This, the elitism is so unnecessary. Save it for Vet Trials where it is relevant.- - -
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Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭They were probably jackasses, with that said...
You basically ran away from the old dps test and used a bow the entire fight.
If you haven't ran the dungeon before than those simple mechanics could have been explained before the fight.
Who's fault that is, is in the air.0 -
lexior12✭Don't worry about it man.You're going to run into scum in life and in games.And apparently on these forums lol.If what you say is true you did nothing wrong.Play how you like, especially if you're accomplishing your goal.4
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mad0ni0n✭✭✭Right or wrong, as a dps the thing you are most likely to get kicked for is standing in the back with a bow. there's a reason doing that has a bad reputation, it does low dps. you should avoid doing it because it will annoy people. it's really not fair on the other dps who has to carry. imagine if both dps were both standing there with a bow, the group will wipe on bloodspawn long before you klll it that way.1 -
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✭✭Don't worry about it man.You're going to run into scum in life and in games.And apparently on these forums lol.If what you say is true you did nothing wrong.Play how you like, especially if you're accomplishing your goal.
I agree completely, and bow is fun! If some guys kicked me from a group due to getting a bow out, they would have some serious whispers, because in a dungeon they would in fact be the ones to look like idiots for kicking a fourth member for such a dumb reason, perhaps it was nothing to do with you at all, and because they had another dps who wanted to join the group? I have seen this before... Its not your problem though, so just ignore them and find some normal people to play with
If you are on PC-EU and ever get stuck and need people to do dungeons with who are not judgemental arses, my friends and I would be more than happy to accompany you AND your bow Sorcerer, Templar, Wolf Collector, Housing Addict!
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JakelDK✭✭✭
that is very nice of you! im on the xbox though but thank you for offering:)Don't worry about it man.You're going to run into scum in life and in games.And apparently on these forums lol.If what you say is true you did nothing wrong.Play how you like, especially if you're accomplishing your goal.
I agree completely, and bow is fun! If some guys kicked me from a group due to getting a bow out, they would have some serious whispers, because in a dungeon they would in fact be the ones to look like idiots for kicking a fourth member for such a dumb reason, perhaps it was nothing to do with you at all, and because they had another dps who wanted to join the group? I have seen this before... Its not your problem though, so just ignore them and find some normal people to play with
If you are on PC-EU and ever get stuck and need people to do dungeons with who are not judgemental arses, my friends and I would be more than happy to accompany you AND your bow
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JakelDK✭✭✭Right or wrong, as a dps the thing you are most likely to get kicked for is standing in the back with a bow. there's a reason doing that has a bad reputation, it does low dps. you should avoid doing it because it will annoy people. it's really not fair on the other dps who has to carry. imagine if both dps were both standing there with a bow, the group will wipe on bloodspawn long before you klll it that way.
in your opinion is the bow useless for dungeons?
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mad0ni0n✭✭✭Right or wrong, as a dps the thing you are most likely to get kicked for is standing in the back with a bow. there's a reason doing that has a bad reputation, it does low dps. you should avoid doing it because it will annoy people. it's really not fair on the other dps who has to carry. imagine if both dps were both standing there with a bow, the group will wipe on bloodspawn long before you klll it that way.
in your opinion is the bow useless for dungeons?
No, dual wield and bow is perfect but as you've already been told the only bow skills you need are Endless Hail and Poison Injection. you shouldn't be using dual wield or bow for a whole fight, you should be switching between them.1 -
JakelDK✭✭✭Right or wrong, as a dps the thing you are most likely to get kicked for is standing in the back with a bow. there's a reason doing that has a bad reputation, it does low dps. you should avoid doing it because it will annoy people. it's really not fair on the other dps who has to carry. imagine if both dps were both standing there with a bow, the group will wipe on bloodspawn long before you klll it that way.
in your opinion is the bow useless for dungeons?
No, dual wield and bow is perfect but as you've already been told the only bow skills you need are Endless Hail and Poison Injection. you shouldn't be using dual wield or bow for a whole fight, you should be switching between them.
thanks for clarifying.
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Vythri✭✭✭✭Right or wrong, as a dps the thing you are most likely to get kicked for is standing in the back with a bow. there's a reason doing that has a bad reputation, it does low dps. you should avoid doing it because it will annoy people. it's really not fair on the other dps who has to carry. imagine if both dps were both standing there with a bow, the group will wipe on bloodspawn long before you klll it that way.
in your opinion is the bow useless for dungeons?
Read the build I linked.0 -
JakelDK✭✭✭Right or wrong, as a dps the thing you are most likely to get kicked for is standing in the back with a bow. there's a reason doing that has a bad reputation, it does low dps. you should avoid doing it because it will annoy people. it's really not fair on the other dps who has to carry. imagine if both dps were both standing there with a bow, the group will wipe on bloodspawn long before you klll it that way.
in your opinion is the bow useless for dungeons?
Read the build I linked.
i did it was helpfull much obliged:)
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