People say tanking is easy, but few run as one. Hmm...

PS4 Group finder is always instant group for my tanks.

How about...instead of an AoE taunt I think it would be better if tanks had a wall ability. That could...block off mobs strategically.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Medakon wrote: »

Been playing tank since day one of the release, tanked many years in other mmos. One of my biggest struggels in this game was to figure out how agro system worked. But after a while you get used to it, and managed to hold 90%+ of the mobs in packs while doing dungeons. However, due to recent update 12, I wouldnt mind seeing some kind of aoe taunt, maybe make it a set bonus? boss mask? if you use single target taunt it automaticly sends impulse taunting everything 10m of you?

Reason for this is Darkshade caveran 2, with the tentacle boss. It has a massiv spawn rate, and most of the time damage dealers has to low damage output, ending up with 20-40adds running around, pretty hard trying to controll all of these while trying to kite boss. So.. wouldnt mind seeing some kind of aoetaunt in the near future.

EDIT:typo

@Medakon

The fight you mention in Darkshade II is best done with the tank as a damage dealer.

Most tanks I've run with in their chsnge to dps for the fight and it core faster and smoother. Nothing to really tank in it. Oh, and the healer can help out dealing damage also. There is not a pure trinity in this game for 4 man content.

Tanks that have tried to "tank" that fight often hold the boss off to the side making the fight last much longer since the boss isn't taking any of the AoE damage.

Again, not an example of an AoE taunt being useful. Tanks should not be built to overcome light damage.

Your sayin tank should reroll damage dealer to fight this boss(I see this as a game issue tbh), but what if they implemented aoe taunt to this game? Tank can stay tank, and keep all the agro on him, while dps deals aoe damage. If I'm not 100% mistaken there should be abilitys that reflect damage, could it be Bone shield? so Aoe taunt + boneshield = tank dealing more damage than dps do for this fight, and he gets to stay tank role. If bone shield didnt return damage, then they should add a ability that does this aswell. Not saying aoe taunt is needed, but would make a nice feature to this game ^^

pronkg wrote: »

Yes on extremely hard content being a good tank becomes more viable. But on all the vet dungeons you can do it with any class, any heavy set all day long without dieing.

Seems we agree after all. And that is what I mean with tanking is not easy, sure it is easy in dungeons and vet dungeons. But veteran trials, or hard modes, it is difficult.

But My maw statement is definitely not questionable

Woeler wrote: »

pronkg wrote: »

Yes on extremely hard content being a good tank becomes more viable. But on all the vet dungeons you can do it with any class, any heavy set all day long without dieing.

Seems we agree after all. And that is what I mean with tanking is not easy, sure it is easy in dungeons and vet dungeons. But veteran trials, or hard modes, it is difficult.

But My maw statement is definitely not questionable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71i5uNa44G0

I was just saying it was easy as response to the AOE taunt request. AOE taunt would make tanking in vet dungeons a 2 click boring thing (if you're not going offtank that is). Having to micromanage all mobs is what makes tanking so active and fun in this game. A mass taunt would kind of ruin that.

I believed you on the morkai thing no worries.

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

nordsavage wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

The reason is that most tanks don't need it because they now what to control and when to control it. Also, if a tank had everything focused on it, the healer's job would be harder since now they have to keep the tank topped up repeatedly instead of making sure everyone is ok and assisting with the DPS. Also, the DPS need to learn not stand around so damn much and an AoE taunt does nothing to get them moving. It's not that would make tanking easier in all situations, it will make the jobs of the group members harder.

Unfounded, untrue and if this is your case as a tank or healer you are fit for neither role. I can hold it all and not bleed rivers.

I agree with you. I have two tanks, and I prefer when the healer and DD's aren't moving around like idiots.

Stay behind me, and keep out of AOE's. Enemies that aren't yet taunted will usually go after the shiny thing closest to them. I don't think that's the best place for a 13K health mage.

If you think that DPS should stand still, you might be in the wrong game. Mobility in this game is key and as a DPS I am always in motion, usually spinning with steel tornado while I lead a group of trash around the room as the key is not to be touched while cutting them down. I can understand that a tank and healer might prefer less active combat, but for a dps, it's a must.

I am pretty sure that is not what he said at all. You can move around without moving around like idiots.

If I had to pick, I would prefer someone standing still to moving around, if they are standing still outside of giant red circles instead of running around into them or out of the range of heals.

Haven't read everything here but as a Main Tank I want to give my word to the conversation. I saw that some people say that tanking is too easy. If you do nothing but Normal and Veteran Dungeons then yes you could be believed that Tanking is easy. Now I want anyone that thinks that to go into Veteran Hel Ra HM or Veteran SO HM or Veteran Maw and I want you to tell me if that was easy.

Taunting your enemies is not the only thing a Tank does. Sure keeping agro is your first Priority but its not your only. Positioning of the enemies and bosses are crucial to the sucess and strenght of the group. And not only that but supporting your group in other ways is basically demanded of you in Veteran Trials. And no, I am not talking about adding your own measly DPS to the boss, please stop trying to make that a thing. A Tank can buff and debuff for the group, giving out things like Aggresive Warhorns and Minor Maims. There are a million things to consider.

Now my point in all of this is that in trash pulls having an AoE Taunt would make things much much easier. Too easy. Where is the fun in just getting on click in and BOOM total control of the situation. No you have to pick your tragets and prioritize the tougher enemies. That is not to say that you can't taunt everything. I know some people that advice Tanks to not taunt anything but the absolute biggest threat. In my opinion that is stupid. Taunt what you can, chain stuff in and Crowd Control what you can. I personally taunt everything I can. And no its does not make it harder on the healer. The tank has much more Health and Damage Mitigation than anyone in the group, they can tanke it as long as you throw a few breath of lifes or healing springs their way.

The Devs have also on multiple occasions said they don't want an AoE Taunt so can we please stop talking about it? Its a boring and dead issue, move along.

Here is my thoughts on Taunting in general take it out of the game. Makes the content a challenge then.

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

The only thing a lack of an AOE taunt does for ESO is make tanking a very difficult role to get into for new comers. It thus keeps the role elite and make dungeons queues very long.

There are very few people at ZOS who know what they are doing - and most of those few have never played an MMO - so they are (determined) to learn it the hard way.

So what you are asking for is an "easy mode" button, so that tanking doesn't require any skill.
No thanks.

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

The only thing a lack of an AOE taunt does for ESO is make tanking a very difficult role to get into for new comers. It thus keeps the role elite and make dungeons queues very long.

I don't see a problem with that. Roll as a tank if you want shorter queue times..

Not needed, so I would rather they work on fixing the many bugged and broken things.