Stevil, if this is how you conduct scientific impartial experiments, heaven help us if you work for Lawrence Livermore labs, the NASA JPL, or MIT

STEVIL wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

I had already bought a stack before I posted so I'm good for the moment. Besides, I have no idea which guild store you use, there are quite a number of them in Tamriel you know And the popularity of one ingredient (Columbine, Dragonthorn) has nothing to do with the rarity of the other (Nirnroot).

Oh absolutely. i dont think nirnroot is in demand as much as columbine either.

i posted the nirnroot to test the claims - you know - experiment.

See when this was stated:
"Stevil, apparently you haven't done much shopping for Nirnroot lately. It's extremely hard to find in the Guild Stores, and guess why? BINGO, you got it! And when you do find it, it's going for a damn good rate now."

implication being its not in stores cuz its being bought out as quick as possible for big bucks, i observed the lack of it in stores could be for at least three major reasons:
1 - As implied its in high demand.
2 - Currently part of a corner the market scheme by large scale traders.
3 - its not in demand enough to warrant being put out there and taking up shelf space.

So, simple test... post columbine (known #1 @high price), dragonthorn (some demand #moderate price) and then nirnroot (unknown @moderate price) to the same traders and see how they move.

The other ingredients simply verify the vendors are being visited and purchased from by folks looking for even high dollar reagents. (have not had columbine or dragonthorn last a day yet - so bona fides of the sellers is established enough for me.)

Either 1 or 2 should result in nirnroot sales quickly. if its #3 i am going to lose some listing fees but hey they dragon gold has already done wonders so no worries there.

test still ongoing... will see what happens.

Update

in 11 hours over 80k in additional profits from additional columbine and dragopnthorn sales on the same vendors the nirnroot sits without a nibble.

so, at this point I would conclude the lack of seeing nirnroot in the stores is not evidence of a high demand for it or it fetching even moderate prices and selling quickly.

Still tho, a very profitable experiment.

offer still stands. will gladly trade a hundred nirnroot for say a hundred columbine or a hundred dragonthorn to those who prefer to have their writs not call for mostly nirnroot but to vary between the more useful materials.

helediron wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

I had already bought a stack before I posted so I'm good for the moment. Besides, I have no idea which guild store you use, there are quite a number of them in Tamriel you know And the popularity of one ingredient (Columbine, Dragonthorn) has nothing to do with the rarity of the other (Nirnroot).

Oh absolutely. i dont think nirnroot is in demand as much as columbine either.

i posted the nirnroot to test the claims - you know - experiment.

See when this was stated:
"Stevil, apparently you haven't done much shopping for Nirnroot lately. It's extremely hard to find in the Guild Stores, and guess why? BINGO, you got it! And when you do find it, it's going for a damn good rate now."

implication being its not in stores cuz its being bought out as quick as possible for big bucks, i observed the lack of it in stores could be for at least three major reasons:
1 - As implied its in high demand.
2 - Currently part of a corner the market scheme by large scale traders.
3 - its not in demand enough to warrant being put out there and taking up shelf space.

So, simple test... post columbine (known #1 @high price), dragonthorn (some demand #moderate price) and then nirnroot (unknown @moderate price) to the same traders and see how they move.

The other ingredients simply verify the vendors are being visited and purchased from by folks looking for even high dollar reagents. (have not had columbine or dragonthorn last a day yet - so bona fides of the sellers is established enough for me.)

Either 1 or 2 should result in nirnroot sales quickly. if its #3 i am going to lose some listing fees but hey they dragon gold has already done wonders so no worries there.

test still ongoing... will see what happens.

Update

in 11 hours over 80k in additional profits from additional columbine and dragopnthorn sales on the same vendors the nirnroot sits without a nibble.

so, at this point I would conclude the lack of seeing nirnroot in the stores is not evidence of a high demand for it or it fetching even moderate prices and selling quickly.

Still tho, a very profitable experiment.

offer still stands. will gladly trade a hundred nirnroot for say a hundred columbine or a hundred dragonthorn to those who prefer to have their writs not call for mostly nirnroot but to vary between the more useful materials.

You are proving nothing regarding to OP. Random flowers in writs are easier to fill with general farming when nirnroot as chokepoint requires special farming. You are digressing.

This last patch has reduced significantly nirnroot availability from nodes. Alchemy writs have no special rewards so i have stopped doing the nirnroot writs. It's more productive to farm generic flower nodes directly.

my proving was to deal with the later point made that the lack of nirnroot in stores was related to this issue. it wasn't in the Op but amazingly, sometimes, people make claims in discussions that aren't in the OP and equally astounding sometimes people even discuss those. Shocking, i know, but true.

As for me, i continue to run writs and nirnroot ones too. since the typical writs takes a couple minutes at most counting login screens if you do the "make multiple when you get them" and since surveys now at maybe 10% drop have so many mats... i find them profitable esp the nirnroot ones since the root is basically useless to me.

But hey, everyone's time and goals will vary.

I dont do any dedicated harvesting of anything but whatever char i am playing is now practically tripping over nodes of all sorts so mats keep flowing in faster than i can use them.

Since i cant sell the root, writs seem a good monetization of it.

But to each their own.

i just hope ZOS does not change writs so that instead of consuming mostly useless nirnroot they start going after columbine and other more useful ones more consistently. That might drive me to stop those writs, just like the ill conceived increase in equip writ cost stopped me there too.

As for the oh so hard to find root... again my root levels have stayed mostly consistent with daily writ work since 1T.

But i am sure more than a few folks like running around on dedicated harvest runs instead of casual acquisition... all power to them.

Why can't it be mushrooms instead of nirnroot, ive given up trying to sell them in guild stores, even in the middle of wayrest they just won't shift no matter how cheap I sell them. I dumped two hundred blue entolma on an npc yesterday