Guild Trader Time Change

MIZRETH · October 2016

And how many console players check the forums? I can tell you from all the In-Game complaints in area chat and guild chat from multiple guild leaders throughout the game! Less than 20%

Rittings · October 2016

This would be great... if it were not for the fact NO notification was put up on the info page. Nice... so now I have 3 guilds (one I control and two I do the bids for) that have no trader this week. Had to find out from a friend and come SEARCH for this... great communication. You guys are lost.

remedios17 · October 2016

same here. you guys only posted THIS 1 TINY NOTIFICATION here on the forums, and 95% of the GMs found out about this when we logged in and our traders were gone.
professional, as always

wenchmore420b14_ESO · October 2016

Well, My GM friends and I must be that 5% as I knew about this 8 days ago and even took off work so as not to miss bid times. I'm sorry you missed it, but it was posted 1 1/2 weeks ago (10/7). Where else should it be except official forum pages?
I'm PC/NA and most every GM i know knew about it and passed info on to others.
As far as losing your trader, I am sorry as I was one of the one's that lost our Craglorn trader with Update screw up.
It still hurts in the nether regions over that.

Immortal_Dark410 · October 2016

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Well, My GM friends and I must be that 5% as I knew about this 8 days ago and even took off work so as not to miss bid times. I'm sorry you missed it, but it was posted 1 1/2 weeks ago (10/7). Where else should it be except official forum pages?
I'm PC/NA and most every GM i know knew about it and passed info on to others.
As far as losing your trader, I am sorry as I was one of the one's that lost our Craglorn trader with Update screw up.
It still hurts in the nether regions over that.

l agree I found out by venturing on to the forums when it posted & was constantly reminded by other GM's in game on PC NA side. Though I do understand that maybe for rest of GM there prob should be some in game mail system, But if your a GM of any guild it comes with the territory that you yourself have to be aware or go and do the research because the fact is your the head of a guild you run and owe it to your members, If you dont do that then you tend to loose out which sucks when it happens.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · October 2016

Immortal_Dark410 wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Well, My GM friends and I must be that 5% as I knew about this 8 days ago and even took off work so as not to miss bid times. I'm sorry you missed it, but it was posted 1 1/2 weeks ago (10/7). Where else should it be except official forum pages?
I'm PC/NA and most every GM i know knew about it and passed info on to others.
As far as losing your trader, I am sorry as I was one of the one's that lost our Craglorn trader with Update screw up.
It still hurts in the nether regions over that.

l agree I found out by venturing on to the forums when it posted & was constantly reminded by other GM's in game on PC NA side. Though I do understand that maybe for rest of GM there prob should be some in game mail system, But if your a GM of any guild it comes with the territory that you yourself have to be aware or go and do the research because the fact is your the head of a guild you run and owe it to your members, If you dont do that then you tend to loose out which sucks when it happens.

Yes! Exactly. Every new update, change, new content, etc, I always check it out on PTS, or read the patch notes or what ever I can find to learn as much about it as I can so I can answer all my guildies questions on the matter. As a GM, your guildies look to you to keep abreast of the game.

Immortal_Dark410 · October 2016

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Immortal_Dark410 wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Well, My GM friends and I must be that 5% as I knew about this 8 days ago and even took off work so as not to miss bid times. I'm sorry you missed it, but it was posted 1 1/2 weeks ago (10/7). Where else should it be except official forum pages?
I'm PC/NA and most every GM i know knew about it and passed info on to others.
As far as losing your trader, I am sorry as I was one of the one's that lost our Craglorn trader with Update screw up.
It still hurts in the nether regions over that.

l agree I found out by venturing on to the forums when it posted & was constantly reminded by other GM's in game on PC NA side. Though I do understand that maybe for rest of GM there prob should be some in game mail system, But if your a GM of any guild it comes with the territory that you yourself have to be aware or go and do the research because the fact is your the head of a guild you run and owe it to your members, If you dont do that then you tend to loose out which sucks when it happens.

Yes! Exactly. Every new update, change, new content, etc, I always check it out on PTS, or read the patch notes or what ever I can find to learn as much about it as I can so I can answer all my guildies questions on the matter. As a GM, your guildies look to you to keep abreast of the game.

yup doesn't take long to read things, I mean I go to university and run a family business and still take the time out to research so i can answer there questions and im aware myself as to what is going on in the ESO world. plus most people know the only way to speak to a ESO representative is on the forums that is why they have them and they post at least 100% of ESO info here on there website

Titansteele · October 2016

Immortal_Dark410 wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Immortal_Dark410 wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Well, My GM friends and I must be that 5% as I knew about this 8 days ago and even took off work so as not to miss bid times. I'm sorry you missed it, but it was posted 1 1/2 weeks ago (10/7). Where else should it be except official forum pages?
I'm PC/NA and most every GM i know knew about it and passed info on to others.
As far as losing your trader, I am sorry as I was one of the one's that lost our Craglorn trader with Update screw up.
It still hurts in the nether regions over that.

l agree I found out by venturing on to the forums when it posted & was constantly reminded by other GM's in game on PC NA side. Though I do understand that maybe for rest of GM there prob should be some in game mail system, But if your a GM of any guild it comes with the territory that you yourself have to be aware or go and do the research because the fact is your the head of a guild you run and owe it to your members, If you dont do that then you tend to loose out which sucks when it happens.

Yes! Exactly. Every new update, change, new content, etc, I always check it out on PTS, or read the patch notes or what ever I can find to learn as much about it as I can so I can answer all my guildies questions on the matter. As a GM, your guildies look to you to keep abreast of the game.

yup doesn't take long to read things, I mean I go to university and run a family business and still take the time out to research so i can answer there questions and im aware myself as to what is going on in the ESO world. plus most people know the only way to speak to a ESO representative is on the forums that is why they have them and they post at least 100% of ESO info here on there website

This is not an epeen competition, lets not turn it into one.

Most people lead busy lives and the vast majority of the time I manage to stay abreast of what is coming up in my hobby of choice as well as balance work and family along with it. Where I wish it upon nobody life can get in the way, if I need to explain that to anyone then perhaps they have some more living to do before they can understand it.

The reliance of the many on the few to ensure that important news like this gets out is a fundamental failure.

When I posted about this I highlighted the problem and suggested an improvement. If truly important news was broadcast via the launcher or even in game we would not be in this position.

People have moaned and whined about crown store news popups happening, I never have. I am sure you would even get a few people moaning if a popup in game came up a week ago directing people to this announcement but I would find those moans baseless and I am sure they would have been slapped down by the community hard.

I got a system popup message to tell me the servers are down right now, all we needed was a popup message to say that "The trader renew times are changing due to popular demand. Please check the forums for full details"

You can not "fix" this mistake, please use it to improve service and not make the mistake again.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2016

I agree that it's part of the purpose of guilds to be a place where you bring and share information. A Guild Master is supposed to keep himself informed and pass info on to his guildies. If he has no time to do so, he must delegate to an officer or another guildie ready to do so. Organization 101 really.

That being said, a mail ingame from ZOS to guild masters would have cost little and achieved a lot in terms of community management. Guild Masters devote A LOT of time and provide A LOT of added value to the game. They enjoy it but it's basically free work for ZOS, out of which ZOS makes hard cash. Recognition and acknowledgement is due here.

Immortal_Dark410 · October 2016

Titansteele wrote: »

Immortal_Dark410 wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Immortal_Dark410 wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Well, My GM friends and I must be that 5% as I knew about this 8 days ago and even took off work so as not to miss bid times. I'm sorry you missed it, but it was posted 1 1/2 weeks ago (10/7). Where else should it be except official forum pages?
I'm PC/NA and most every GM i know knew about it and passed info on to others.
As far as losing your trader, I am sorry as I was one of the one's that lost our Craglorn trader with Update screw up.
It still hurts in the nether regions over that.

l agree I found out by venturing on to the forums when it posted & was constantly reminded by other GM's in game on PC NA side. Though I do understand that maybe for rest of GM there prob should be some in game mail system, But if your a GM of any guild it comes with the territory that you yourself have to be aware or go and do the research because the fact is your the head of a guild you run and owe it to your members, If you dont do that then you tend to loose out which sucks when it happens.

Yes! Exactly. Every new update, change, new content, etc, I always check it out on PTS, or read the patch notes or what ever I can find to learn as much about it as I can so I can answer all my guildies questions on the matter. As a GM, your guildies look to you to keep abreast of the game.

yup doesn't take long to read things, I mean I go to university and run a family business and still take the time out to research so i can answer there questions and im aware myself as to what is going on in the ESO world. plus most people know the only way to speak to a ESO representative is on the forums that is why they have them and they post at least 100% of ESO info here on there website

This is not an epeen competition, lets not turn it into one.

Most people lead busy lives and the vast majority of the time I manage to stay abreast of what is coming up in my hobby of choice as well as balance work and family along with it. Where I wish it upon nobody life can get in the way, if I need to explain that to anyone then perhaps they have some more living to do before they can understand it.

The reliance of the many on the few to ensure that important news like this gets out is a fundamental failure.

When I posted about this I highlighted the problem and suggested an improvement. If truly important news was broadcast via the launcher or even in game we would not be in this position.

People have moaned and whined about crown store news popups happening, I never have. I am sure you would even get a few people moaning if a popup in game came up a week ago directing people to this announcement but I would find those moans baseless and I am sure they would have been slapped down by the community hard.

I got a system popup message to tell me the servers are down right now, all we needed was a popup message to say that "The trader renew times are changing due to popular demand. Please check the forums for full details"

You can not "fix" this mistake, please use it to improve service and not make the mistake again.

its ironic there is always an issue when ever zos does something someone out there has an issue with how its done or managed to be done. You cant please everyone my friend, we might say hey "Why didn't you do this or that", but the reality of the matter is we dont have the full context of information on what is going on and why it was done that way. Now that it has happened that way and some people couldn't click onto a website and find out and they didn't update people in game, then its tough luck and its life. Now you know, you can either accept it as it is, or complain and rant but in reality they wont change there method of giving information out because maybe they have there reason. For example if they put a server wide message traders are changing at such & such times, then there would also be massive rush & Competition and fights for certain spots and area's which as GM's were well aware of This and probably wouldn't want issues. As far as life is concerned everyone here has a life, some are busier then others , there is not doubt but im sorry you cant come out saying my life is busier then yours "Statement" because frankly we dont know the other persons life it could be busier.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I agree that it's part of the purpose of guilds to be a place where you bring and share information. A Guild Master is supposed to keep himself informed and pass info on to his guildies. If he has no time to do so, he must delegate to an officer or another guildie ready to do so. Organization 101 really.

That being said, a mail ingame from ZOS to guild masters would have cost little and achieved a lot in terms of community management. Guild Masters devote A LOT of time and provide A LOT of added value to the game. They enjoy it but it's basically free work for ZOS, out of which ZOS makes hard cash. Recognition and acknowledgement is due here.

Agree, If anything Delagate to someone else to keep watch on forums its not hard to go on a website & ya Like i said it prob could have been done better maybe a mail or something but hey we really dont know what if anything goes on at ZOS behind the scenes and there more informed then we are. Lets just be thank full they changed the Trader reset times & move on lol

martinhpb16_ESO · October 2016

I and some other GMs I spoke with had some problems with the timer last night.

My timer countdown for bid closing seemed to be behind. What we thought were last minute bids were actually too late as the bid had already closed! We lost our regular trader last night.

Is this a bug?

Also I only found out about this 20 mins before the new timespot so had to organise last minute bids for two guilds, so lucky I was online. Please could you improve how you communicate changes to trade guilds like this please.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Could we possibly have a Trader Dev and a feedback thread where we can feedback improvements to the system please?

with some posting guidelines so as to avoid unneccessary debates about Auction Houses etc.

A lot of us GMs spend a huge amount of time running these guilds and we are significantly supporting the trade system that you have given us. A chance to provide some 'listened to' feedback would be cool

Thanks

martinhpb16_ESO · October 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

That being said, a mail ingame from ZOS to guild masters would have cost little and achieved a lot in terms of community management. Guild Masters devote A LOT of time and provide A LOT of added value to the game. They enjoy it but it's basically free work for ZOS, out of which ZOS makes hard cash. Recognition and acknowledgement is due here.

^^ This. I devote more time to GM admin than actually playing which is for the benefit of players and Zos. Some reciprocal communication with Devs would be well received.

SamboJ · October 2016

I think the new time is great and I have no problem with the way that the information was provided to players by posting it here. The forums are the official place for all up to date, relevant & important information. I believe that an in-game notification is unnecessary because guild masters should be reading the forums to keep up to date with game changes for the sole purpose of passing on correct & up to date information to guild members.

Titansteele · October 2016

Dear @Immortal_Dark410

There is no irony here. No hidden message or implied statement other that what I have said.

I am not ranting, I am putting forward a complaint coupled with a solution to said complaint. That falls into the category of constructive criticism not moaning/whining/crying.
If you feel that complaining wont change anything you are in the wrong thread friend, what prompted the change of the trader timer? Yes ... you got it ... complaints.
I would like to think it was thanks to those community members out there that took the time to provide constructive feedback to ZOS that got this positive change delivered to us and the people that wrote their feedback all in caps were the noise ZOS had to wade through to find a fitting solution to the problem.

With regards to my life comment I was not comparing how busy anyone`s life is. I really didn't think I would need to explain this but when I said "Life gets in the way" what I meant was "sh*t happens". Life events can not be planned, they can come out of seemingly nowhere and knock you for six. I am not going to provide examples of what they are, I should not need too.

Any communication solution that relies on the few to inform the many is flawed, it really is that simple. ZOS have the tools at their disposal do make improvements, I have faith that they will.

SamboJ · October 2016

Titansteele wrote: »

Dear @Immortal_Dark410

Any communication solution that relies on the few to inform the many is flawed, it really is that simple.

Reminds me of every country on the planet.

Immortal_Dark410 · October 2016

Titansteele wrote: »

Dear @Immortal_Dark410

There is no irony here. No hidden message or implied statement other that what I have said.

I am not ranting, I am putting forward a complaint coupled with a solution to said complaint. That falls into the category of constructive criticism not moaning/whining/crying.
If you feel that complaining wont change anything you are in the wrong thread friend, what prompted the change of the trader timer? Yes ... you got it ... complaints.
I would like to think it was thanks to those community members out there that took the time to provide constructive feedback to ZOS that got this positive change delivered to us and the people that wrote their feedback all in caps were the noise ZOS had to wade through to find a fitting solution to the problem.

With regards to my life comment I was not comparing how busy anyone`s life is. I really didn't think I would need to explain this but when I said "Life gets in the way" what I meant was "sh*t happens". Life events can not be planned, they can come out of seemingly nowhere and knock you for six. I am not going to provide examples of what they are, I should not need too.

Any communication solution that relies on the few to inform the many is flawed, it really is that simple. ZOS have the tools at their disposal do make improvements, I have faith that they will.

the ranting or complaining was not about you or id have tagged your @name specifically like you did, What i intended to say because you didnt prob get it, then thats on me, was that enough people come on these forums complaining and crying about minor and minute things that have been done by zos, they changed the trader times which was in my mind good enough i dont think they need to mail ever GM or Put server wide message to inform people. They have a website for that which is widely used, thats what i was implying so by coming on to the forums to complain why they didnt inform someone isn't worth the time ,because any Guild leader should have come earlier to check info related to traders and the changes.Generally as a GM you should check every once and awhile or get someone in your guild to do it. As far as the "Few to tell the many" i never implied that, i Said its on the Leaders of the guilds to be informed, if they cant force themselves to find information on the "Official ESO website" lol then thats there loss. If i was in the same boat id blame myself for not looking on there website. I hope that clarify's what i was stating but anyways like i said earlier and above its good they changed the Trader times so lets just be content with that.

AlnilamE · October 2016

mdylan2013 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jayne_Doe wrote: »

Jailbirdy wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Whoops, sorry guys! Yes, this is for PC and consoles.

Thanks Gina

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can this be made clear in the original post? It's still unclear, since it mentions the change is due to PC/Mac maintenance. It would be nice if console guild officers didn't have scroll through the post to find the confirmation that the change also affects them.

Thanks!

Yep, just edited the original post.

Hi Gina, I just saw that there was a problem with traders in Craglorn after the change to One Tamriel. I have a guild trader in Craglorn this week, will it be impacted with the same issue that happened to the PC users?

Thanks for your help

The Craglorn traders should be hirable as normal now.

What happened was that with the One Tamriel update, ZOS essentially created a "New Craglorn" that they layered on top of the "Old Craglorn" and when the update happened, the traders that people had hired in "Old Craglorn" were not in the new version and the "New Craglorn" traders were up for grabs. One guild even had the issue where they entered their bid for the new week before the One Tamriel update, so they were stuck with an "Old Craglorn" trader nobody can see.

But since we are now all in the "New Craglorn" instance, hiring should proceed as normal and the "Old Craglorn" version of the traders will sit there empty and wonder why nobody loves them anymore...

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2016

AlnilamE wrote: »

mdylan2013 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jayne_Doe wrote: »

Jailbirdy wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Whoops, sorry guys! Yes, this is for PC and consoles.

Thanks Gina

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can this be made clear in the original post? It's still unclear, since it mentions the change is due to PC/Mac maintenance. It would be nice if console guild officers didn't have scroll through the post to find the confirmation that the change also affects them.

Thanks!

Yep, just edited the original post.

Hi Gina, I just saw that there was a problem with traders in Craglorn after the change to One Tamriel. I have a guild trader in Craglorn this week, will it be impacted with the same issue that happened to the PC users?

Thanks for your help

The Craglorn traders should be hirable as normal now.

What happened was that with the One Tamriel update, ZOS essentially created a "New Craglorn" that they layered on top of the "Old Craglorn" and when the update happened, the traders that people had hired in "Old Craglorn" were not in the new version and the "New Craglorn" traders were up for grabs. One guild even had the issue where they entered their bid for the new week before the One Tamriel update, so they were stuck with an "Old Craglorn" trader nobody can see.

But since we are now all in the "New Craglorn" instance, hiring should proceed as normal and the "Old Craglorn" version of the traders will sit there empty and wonder why nobody loves them anymore...

The question comes from a console player. One Tamriel (and the "duplicated Craglorn") come to consoles tomorrow, so the question is very valid and still open.

AlnilamE · October 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

mdylan2013 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jayne_Doe wrote: »

Jailbirdy wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Whoops, sorry guys! Yes, this is for PC and consoles.

Thanks Gina

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can this be made clear in the original post? It's still unclear, since it mentions the change is due to PC/Mac maintenance. It would be nice if console guild officers didn't have scroll through the post to find the confirmation that the change also affects them.

Thanks!

Yep, just edited the original post.

Hi Gina, I just saw that there was a problem with traders in Craglorn after the change to One Tamriel. I have a guild trader in Craglorn this week, will it be impacted with the same issue that happened to the PC users?

Thanks for your help

The Craglorn traders should be hirable as normal now.

What happened was that with the One Tamriel update, ZOS essentially created a "New Craglorn" that they layered on top of the "Old Craglorn" and when the update happened, the traders that people had hired in "Old Craglorn" were not in the new version and the "New Craglorn" traders were up for grabs. One guild even had the issue where they entered their bid for the new week before the One Tamriel update, so they were stuck with an "Old Craglorn" trader nobody can see.

But since we are now all in the "New Craglorn" instance, hiring should proceed as normal and the "Old Craglorn" version of the traders will sit there empty and wonder why nobody loves them anymore...

The question comes from a console player. One Tamriel (and the "duplicated Craglorn") come to consoles tomorrow, so the question is very valid and still open.

Oh, I see.
Mmmm.... I would assume the same thing will happen on Consoles. I hope I'm wrong though.

Nova Sky · October 2016

Whilst the time change in the long run is far more convenient than what it had been, an in-game notification would have been beneficial, since I was among the bidders who missed the new window.

MIZRETH · October 2016

Let's understand here for a minute the difference between PC & Console. As a lifetime console player I've never had to venture into forums to find out information regarding major game changes.

My issue is that a system is in place for notifications when major changes or "downtime" occurs. This same system could have been used to provided much needed information to console players that don't regularly venture into forums, which most of us don't. Another issue is that I have had problems accessing ZOS forums from day 1 of registering my account and only obtained access recently. I'm not familiar with where information is posted. I would literally have to be aware of the situation and then search for it, which is what I did when I found out AS TRADERS WERE FLIPPING.

If ZOS is going to manage a multi-platform game they need to understand that casual console gamers don't visit online forums and need to notify that client base differently than it's PC base; we shouldn't be punished for that. Just use what is already in place to accommodate those PAYING subscribers to their service.

code65536 · October 2016

MIZRETH wrote: »

If ZOS is going to manage a multi-platform game they need to understand that casual console gamers don't visit online forums

Even when people are around to bid, it's not uncommon for guilds to lose traders. Losing a trader for one week isn't the end of the world. This should especially be true for a self-professed "casual" gamer.

martinhpb16_ESO · October 2016

Immortal_Dark410 wrote: »

the ranting or complaining was not about you or id have tagged your @name specifically like you did, What i intended to say because you didnt prob get it, then thats on me, was that enough people come on these forums complaining and crying about minor and minute things

But you are complaining about minor and minute things!

You have derailed the thread by complaining at people who complained about something that you consider to be minor and minute!

"Hey man I'm going to write a whole forum post to you and complain because you complained about something really minor which you should not complain about - but my complaining at you is OK because my complaint is major whilst your complaint is minor!!!"

One persons minor is another's major, how about letting people say their thing without becoming the complaint police?

And yeh I'm complaining at you

Immortal_Dark410 · October 2016

martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »

Immortal_Dark410 wrote: »

the ranting or complaining was not about you or id have tagged your @name specifically like you did, What i intended to say because you didnt prob get it, then thats on me, was that enough people come on these forums complaining and crying about minor and minute things

But you are complaining about minor and minute things!

You have derailed the thread by complaining at people who complained about something that you consider to be minor and minute!

"Hey man I'm going to write a whole forum post to you and complain because you complained about something really minor which you should not complain about - but my complaining at you is OK because my complaint is major whilst your complaint is minor!!!"

One persons minor is another's major, how about letting people say their thing without becoming the complaint police?

And yeh I'm complaining at you

if your aim is to continue a debate thiers no point because i had said my peace prior to your post, but thanks a lot for your pearls of wisdom.

silvereyes · October 2016

AlnilamE · October 2016

remedios17 wrote: »

same here. you guys only posted THIS 1 TINY NOTIFICATION here on the forums, and 95% of the GMs found out about this when we logged in and our traders were gone.
professional, as always

How do you run a trade guild and not come to the forums at least once a week to check the maintenance times? I am genuinely curious.

martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »

I and some other GMs I spoke with had some problems with the timer last night.

My timer countdown for bid closing seemed to be behind. What we thought were last minute bids were actually too late as the bid had already closed! We lost our regular trader last night.

Is this a bug?

Also I only found out about this 20 mins before the new timespot so had to organise last minute bids for two guilds, so lucky I was online. Please could you improve how you communicate changes to trade guilds like this please.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Could we possibly have a Trader Dev and a feedback thread where we can feedback improvements to the system please?

with some posting guidelines so as to avoid unneccessary debates about Auction Houses etc.

A lot of us GMs spend a huge amount of time running these guilds and we are significantly supporting the trade system that you have given us. A chance to provide some 'listened to' feedback would be cool

Thanks

I had forgotten that there is an actual timer. I never even see it.

MIZRETH wrote: »

Let's understand here for a minute the difference between PC & Console. As a lifetime console player I've never had to venture into forums to find out information regarding major game changes.

My issue is that a system is in place for notifications when major changes or "downtime" occurs. This same system could have been used to provided much needed information to console players that don't regularly venture into forums, which most of us don't. Another issue is that I have had problems accessing ZOS forums from day 1 of registering my account and only obtained access recently. I'm not familiar with where information is posted. I would literally have to be aware of the situation and then search for it, which is what I did when I found out AS TRADERS WERE FLIPPING.

If ZOS is going to manage a multi-platform game they need to understand that casual console gamers don't visit online forums and need to notify that client base differently than it's PC base; we shouldn't be punished for that. Just use what is already in place to accommodate those PAYING subscribers to their service.

Wait. Are you saying that the consoles have a special notification system? Or are you talking about server messages that go "The Servers will come down in 15 minutes"?

Did you mean to say they should have posted a message like that? At what point in time?

Rittings · October 2016

To answer the above post (without all the crazy long quotes)...

1) You don't need to visit the page to find maintenance times because the information page as you login (on console) tells you when maintenance is going to happen. So this nullifies your point about needing to come to the forums. If in doubt, go check the PS4 forums (which is pretty much the ONLY forum I use here as a PS4 user). They are not highly populated.

2) I come here regularly and didn't see the notification. You would have to trawl through the different threads to find it - this was a MAJOR change and should have been given much more exposure... including it being posted on that information/login page I mentioned before (which is the notification page the other user was talking about and you attempted to ridicule by suggest we were talking about server notifications.

3) One of the major reasons PS4, and I presume XBOX, users do not frequent these boards, is that it seems very difficult to even get the invite code to get on here. I had to jump hoops to get one, and so did my wife (took my wife nearly 3 months to get an invite code after submitting dozens of tickets... was finally helped by a mod on these forums).

All in all... this was a failure to communicate. We have to now live with the fact there are dozens of traders on the console that have no items for sale in them. Ghost traders... and they'll probably flip some time during the week as people buy them for real money or PSN cards (which is still a major issue... and will remain a major issue until Zenimax change the system to whereby a disbanding guild doesn't make that trader available until the turnover the week).

The 10k minimum bid increase won't do anything. 10k is nothing to these guys. Heck, I see some of them spending 10 million on a trader with a ghost guild and flipping it for several hundred bucks. The corruption needs to be stamped out... and its an easy fix - but one we've been waiting for for far too long... heck, they still haven't fixed the guild notifications page so as to reflect when a guild has a trader or not... GMs are STILL having to post up "Trader in Wayrest this week - trader info is STILL glitched").

feyreisa12 · October 2016

I agree with the posters who said ZOS should send an In Game message to all guildmasters whenever changes like this are made. I missed it, and I read the patch notes. I saw the 10K uptick, but somehow didn't see this.

Some additional reminder--a heads up in the inbox--would have been MUCH welcome.

daroule1982 · October 2016

This is great. Past overdue, but this is great. Thank you!

feyreisa12 · November 2016

With Daylight Savings time, is the trader still at 9pm Eastern Time, or since we "fell back" an hour, is it now 8pm?