It is a shame that you do not enjoy the actual content of this game, but I would rather earn my reward in game rather than open my wallet. Also, the crux of this thread has been about lamenting changing the tradition of offering a motif in the game AND in the crown store later. If this tradition were adhered to, both of us would be satisfied: I could run the content, you could pay for the motif later on.Peekachu99 wrote: »I, for one, loathe running those dreadful Gold Coast dailies every day on four toons so that I can get the last motif I need for my crafter. Give me an option to buy the style and I'd never even bother.
Just because another company or game has worse business practices does not mean we should not point out what many of us perceive as degradation of this game.Peekachu99 wrote: »Honestly, some of you need to get a grip. Go play a Perfect World game if you want to see gouging and truly shady business practices.
WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Also, if it's Crown Store only where in Oblivion would we get style stones? Crown Store Mimic stones there too? No thank you.
MarkusLiberty wrote: »Oh no! Zenimax just spent time and effort producing something that isn't free!
I dont see how motifs are any different that costumes or mounts, why shouldn't they be allowed to sell a few of them as Crown store exclusives?
Its just cosmetics.
There are 3 reasons not to buy exclusive crown store motifs.
- Monster Gears "Good luck wearing the whole crown motif set and suffer from stat loss, sorry but not sorry -Zos "
- Mimic Stones "No explanation on how to get the materials so it's safe to assume that it's gonna be mimic stones. Play it once, now you pay twice - A Gambler's Quote"
- Supporting P2W model "It's exclusive which means if someone asks you to craft those, it'll be tons of golds. Good news for master crafters but bad news for the population"
MarkusLiberty wrote: »Oh no! Zenimax just spent time and effort producing something that isn't free!
I dont see how motifs are any different that costumes or mounts, why shouldn't they be allowed to sell a few of them as Crown store exclusives?
Its just cosmetics.
They also said RNG Crown crates would not happen, but they lied.
So you know, changing the style of already existing armor/weapons is called transmogrification is most games.
Transmogrification is 99.999999999% guaranteed to be an ESO+ perk.
It'll come but you'll need to pay $15 a month to use it....
They said they'd never add locked rng crates.
And they haven't. The crown crates don't need keys that you have to purchase. You just buy the rngesus crate and you can open it.
DkAngel23b14_ESO wrote: »Im still really not sure what the issue is here.
lordrichter wrote: »DkAngel23b14_ESO wrote: »Im still really not sure what the issue is here.
1. Up until now, all of the motifs were available in the game for people who wanted to get them in that manner. This represents a change in policy for ZOS.
2. The style resource is not available in the game as a normal drop, so it is necessary to use Mimic stones from the Crown Store. For ZOS, this is the gift that keeps on giving. Again, this is a change in policy for ZOS.
3. It is possible to craft using this motif and sell the crafted item for gold. It is also possible to craft this item, deconstruct it for the style material, and sell the style material. Combined with the above, this is also a first in ESO, and while it is a poor CASH->GOLD conduit, it is one. This is also a change in policy for ZOS.
I want to add that all of this appears to be a late intervention by the monetization people. This has the feel of a last minute change in plans, to me.
jeremiah911 wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »DkAngel23b14_ESO wrote: »Im still really not sure what the issue is here.
1. Up until now, all of the motifs were available in the game for people who wanted to get them in that manner. This represents a change in policy for ZOS.
2. The style resource is not available in the game as a normal drop, so it is necessary to use Mimic stones from the Crown Store. For ZOS, this is the gift that keeps on giving. Again, this is a change in policy for ZOS.
3. It is possible to craft using this motif and sell the crafted item for gold. It is also possible to craft this item, deconstruct it for the style material, and sell the style material. Combined with the above, this is also a first in ESO, and while it is a poor CASH->GOLD conduit, it is one. This is also a change in policy for ZOS.
I want to add that all of this appears to be a late intervention by the monetization people. This has the feel of a last minute change in plans, to me.
1. ZOS owns the hardware and software that run ESO. We don't own anything. We simply pay for the ability to play the game. If ZOS shuts down the servers tomorrow we don't have anything to show for the monetary investment other than the entertainment value we received while playing the game. If ZOS wants to change their "motif" policy, as dumb as that actually sounds, it is their right to do so. Its your choice if you accept it or not.
2. Again, deal with it or not. If your dissatisfied with the implementation then go play / support a game that better aligns with your ideals. If your dissatisfied because you cant afford the items you like that ZOS chooses to sell in the Crown Store then go make more money so you can have the things you like.
3. Your analogy here for pay to win is an insult to pay to win and an obvious stretch to support your own ideals.