Getting kicked out of group for no reason in Cyrodiil.

Lava_Croft · October 2016

One thing is for sure after a few days of broken grouping: Anyone saying that lowering the maximum group size will help with reduce the zerging is plain wrong.

Uphz · October 2016

Well thats very disappointing.. hopefully it won't be like the group finder which was broken for months.

Not much is happening in cyrodiil cause of this, people who usually lead pugs don't lead anymore and an emperor who was crowned before one tamriel was released is impossible to dethrone.

Groups being broken is not just an inconvenience, it is causing unfair advantages as well that affect the entire campaign.

pjwb16_ESO · October 2016

Valencer wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Well, the next question is: Was @ZOS_BrianWheeler misinformed or was it a lie when he told us they had a fix and were implementing it asap?
Because apparently they are not...

In the end "as soon as possible" is just another form of soon™

Well, our german CM just said the fix was too late for today's patch build as everything that's rolling out on a patch on monday has to be "in" on thursday latest.

That is at least a plausible explanation...

If people were getting randomly kicked out of dungeon or trial groups, this would be hotfixed the same day during an emergency maintenance...

true tho

Taonnor · October 2016

-> https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3431232#Comment_3431232

No Group Bug Fix today:

ZOS_KaiSchober wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Ich hoffe die fixen damit mal den Cyrodiil-Gruppenbug... Das war echt eine Katastrophe seit One Tamriel...

Dazu gibt es in 2.6.5 leider noch keinen Fix.

Galagos1 · October 2016

This issue is game breaking for many people including me. After 2 and a half years it may be time to look elsewhere.

manny254 · October 2016

Interestingly enough on Sunday I had an instance where the bug was not occurring all day. Hard to say what was preventing the bug from happening, but it returned when we entered a delve.

Best I can gather is that it had something to do with one of us not being in cyro when the group was formed. Really hard to say though.

Astanphaeus · October 2016

At least the German CM puts useful information like this on the forums. I wonder why ours doesn't.

Psilent · October 2016

I don't see it fixed in the patch notes. Was hoping the EU CS was misinformed.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/296327/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-6-5#latest

NaysaSimone · October 2016

manny254 wrote: »

Interestingly enough on Sunday I had an instance where the bug was not occurring all day. Hard to say what was preventing the bug from happening, but it returned when we entered a delve.

Best I can gather is that it had something to do with one of us not being in cyro when the group was formed. Really hard to say though.

its worth testing to see if grouping before entering cyro works and keeps the group together

Berenhir · October 2016

NaysaSimone wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Interestingly enough on Sunday I had an instance where the bug was not occurring all day. Hard to say what was preventing the bug from happening, but it returned when we entered a delve.

Best I can gather is that it had something to do with one of us not being in cyro when the group was formed. Really hard to say though.

its worth testing to see if grouping before entering cyro works and keeps the group together

Yesterday we entered grouped (2 people) and disbanded on the first transit.
It occasionally does not kick you, but we couldn't figure out the mechanics

LunchBoxChewy · October 2016

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We have a fix for this and will get it implemented as soon as possible.

Sooooo... how long do you plan on bogarting this fix you have?

Komma · October 2016

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Please let us know what is going on. This cant wait another week. We dont need to be fed a line of crap. Our groups numbers have dropped nearly in half and very few of the ones not playing do pve. Another week of this and we may not get them back. I played out there for 30 minutes and rage quit myself. We try to do patch work with auto invite but its just too much. I think we at least deserve the truth so people wont just be frustrated and quiting over it.

kevlarto_ESO · October 2016

So the fix is not in todays patch ? has anyone tried grouping in Cyrodiil since the patch to confirm ya or nay ?

Earthewen · October 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

Astanphaeus wrote: »

Pact Militia had the same issue when we had a small group going around and trying out the dolmens in Cyro earlier today.

Would that be when you guys were pvdooring the map when DC had one bar and you guys had 3?

Is your hatred so bad of PM that you cannot let a simple statement be made without throwing out insults that have nothing to do with the subject of this post? Are you really that much of a troll? Let's call "trolling" what it really is. Abuse. Verbal Abuse.

Astanphaeus · October 2016

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

So the fix is not in todays patch ? has anyone tried grouping in Cyrodiil since the patch to confirm ya or nay ?

Just tried, still broken. Going to try Moji's suggestion next.

Astanphaeus · October 2016

Moji's suggestion didn't work.

Skyy · October 2016

manny254 wrote: »

Interestingly enough on Sunday I had an instance where the bug was not occurring all day. Hard to say what was preventing the bug from happening, but it returned when we entered a delve.

Best I can gather is that it had something to do with one of us not being in cyro when the group was formed. Really hard to say though.

We had a 1.5 hour period where the bug left us alone, but then suddenly we kept disbanding.

Master_Kas · October 2016

Valencer wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Well, the next question is: Was @ZOS_BrianWheeler misinformed or was it a lie when he told us they had a fix and were implementing it asap?
Because apparently they are not...

In the end "as soon as possible" is just another form of soon™

Well, our german CM just said the fix was too late for today's patch build as everything that's rolling out on a patch on monday has to be "in" on thursday latest.

That is at least a plausible explanation...

If people were getting randomly kicked out of dungeon or trial groups, this would be hotfixed the same day during an emergency maintenance...

Exactly this :P

They only care about PVE:ers and the crownstore. PvP probably makes for a small part of the playerbase so they rather ignore it.

Have a feeling Cyro will turn into a PvE quest area in the future when all the PvPers leave eventually

Astanphaeus · October 2016

In the general forum, there is a thread about an issue with the Craglorn Trade Guilds. Let's see what the response was:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll be contacting all affected guild leaders over the next couple days via email and in-game mail.

We can't even get @ZOS_GinaBruno or @ZOS_BrianWheeler to bother to tell us that they won't be fixing this issue today. This is *** disgraceful. Many if not most of the major PvP guils haven't PvP'd in the last 5 days and are now looking at probably another week, but who really knows because they can't be *** bothered to even give us an ETA much less actually fix something that has such a huge impact on PvP an PvP guilds. They should be disgusted with themselves; I certainly am.

NaysaSimone · October 2016

This is utterly appalling!!!
If you actually haven't come up with a fix, why not just say so? If you do have a fix, why the bloody hell has it not been applied yet? I really dont get it!
My PvP guild along with others are just refusing to PvP. Thankfully I do have 1 leader who is trying her hardest to look past this bug and a small amount of people who are just going along with it using auto invite but we damn well shouldn't have to group like this and when we do manage to convince members to just try and look past it and we can get some numbers on the odd occasion, there is no competition (except for maybe Queens Ram when they're on) It's been a while since i've played US prime time so not sure how PvP guilds are going then but when I log on for my prime time normally (aus time) it'd be still be pretty even battles, not this last week, it's been shocking and down right boring. The other night trying secure my toon for some decent rewards at end of campaign I found myself repairing keeps for something to do.

PvP is boring right now aside from the odd push from EP or AD and for some one who could pvp for up to 10 hours at a time (shame no life lol) Im finding myself playing other games. I don't pay $30 a month (partner plays too) for this kind of **** when I pay for something I expect it to work, most of the other buggy stuff in game i can generally look past but being I only PvP this is one I cant look past and I don't believe the treatment it has gotten to be fair.

Unbelievable treatment of this bug, I'm disgusted!

ZOS_GinaBruno · October 2016

There was a reply about this issue posted in a couple different threads this morning, but just to cross-post, we are still testing a fix for this issue. If everything checks out, we may be able to hotfix it this week.

Don't forget to keep an eye on the Dev Tracker for replies. We try to post in as many threads as we can, but that's the best way to get the most up-to-date information.

Astanphaeus · October 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

There was a reply about this issue posted in a couple different threads this morning, but just to cross-post, we are still testing a fix for this issue. If everything checks out, we may be able to hotfix it this week.

Don't forget to keep an eye on the Dev Tracker for replies. We try to post in as many threads as we can, but that's the best way to get the most up-to-date information.

With all due respect, why would you comment on a thread in the General Forums when moderators regularly kick any thread out of that forum that has the slightest wiff of PvP to the Alliance War or Campaign forums, but ignore a thread that has been ongoing for 5 days in the forum that PvPers actually read until you are specifically called out?

frozywozy · October 2016

Astanphaeus wrote: »

At least the German CM puts useful information like this on the forums. I wonder why ours doesn't.

this.

Valencer · October 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

There was a reply about this issue posted in a couple different threads this morning, but just to cross-post, we are still testing a fix for this issue. If everything checks out, we may be able to hotfix it this week.

Don't forget to keep an eye on the Dev Tracker for replies. We try to post in as many threads as we can, but that's the best way to get the most up-to-date information.

I hope you guys realise that this bug is making organised PvP in Cyrodiil very difficult right now, and that this has been going on for 5 days now.

ZOS_GinaBruno · October 2016

Astanphaeus wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

There was a reply about this issue posted in a couple different threads this morning, but just to cross-post, we are still testing a fix for this issue. If everything checks out, we may be able to hotfix it this week.

Don't forget to keep an eye on the Dev Tracker for replies. We try to post in as many threads as we can, but that's the best way to get the most up-to-date information.

With all due respect, why would you comment on a thread in the General Forums when moderators regularly kick any thread out of that forum that has the slightest wiff of PvP to the Alliance War or Campaign forums, but ignore a thread that has been ongoing for 5 days in the forum that PvPers actually read until you are specifically called out?

I'll be honest, I use Recent Discussion when replying to threads, and normally don't see which category they're posted in. Nothing against the Alliance War category at all; it just happened to be that the threads I saw this morning were posted in General.

Valencer wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

There was a reply about this issue posted in a couple different threads this morning, but just to cross-post, we are still testing a fix for this issue. If everything checks out, we may be able to hotfix it this week.

Don't forget to keep an eye on the Dev Tracker for replies. We try to post in as many threads as we can, but that's the best way to get the most up-to-date information.

I hope you guys realise that this bug is making organised PvP in Cyrodiil very difficult right now, and that this has been going on for 5 days now.

Yep, totally understand, and we're actively testing the fixes now. We wanted to get it into today's patch, but the fix simply wasn't ready yet.

Ghost-Shot · October 2016

manny254 wrote: »

Interestingly enough on Sunday I had an instance where the bug was not occurring all day. Hard to say what was preventing the bug from happening, but it returned when we entered a delve.

Best I can gather is that it had something to do with one of us not being in cyro when the group was formed. Really hard to say though.

We ran a group Friday night and for the first hour or so it was happening anytime someone ported or died without being manually resed but after an hour, maybe 2, it stopped entirely and we could port around and take camps without dropping.

Rainingblood · October 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Astanphaeus wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

There was a reply about this issue posted in a couple different threads this morning, but just to cross-post, we are still testing a fix for this issue. If everything checks out, we may be able to hotfix it this week.

Don't forget to keep an eye on the Dev Tracker for replies. We try to post in as many threads as we can, but that's the best way to get the most up-to-date information.

With all due respect, why would you comment on a thread in the General Forums when moderators regularly kick any thread out of that forum that has the slightest wiff of PvP to the Alliance War or Campaign forums, but ignore a thread that has been ongoing for 5 days in the forum that PvPers actually read until you are specifically called out?

I'll be honest, I use Recent Discussion when replying to threads, and normally don't see which category they're posted in. Nothing against the Alliance War category at all; it just happened to be that the threads I saw this morning were posted in General.

Valencer wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

There was a reply about this issue posted in a couple different threads this morning, but just to cross-post, we are still testing a fix for this issue. If everything checks out, we may be able to hotfix it this week.

Don't forget to keep an eye on the Dev Tracker for replies. We try to post in as many threads as we can, but that's the best way to get the most up-to-date information.

I hope you guys realise that this bug is making organised PvP in Cyrodiil very difficult right now, and that this has been going on for 5 days now.

Yep, totally understand, and we're actively testing the fixes now. We wanted to get it into today's patch, but the fix simply wasn't ready yet.

God, I feel bad for you sometimes Gina

you get crapped on from both side for everything that's not your fault.

I, for one, would be totally fine with a hotfix for this and a little downtime since it's so bad.

Blacksheepart · October 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Yep, totally understand, and we're actively testing the fixes now. We wanted to get it into today's patch, but the fix simply wasn't ready yet.

Is anything else going to be hot fixed when you get a solution(because this bug makes it impossible to play in PVP unless you're solo)? I recall last patch that an emergency hotfix had the whole game shut down for a PVE issue, I would expect the same urgency for PVP players.

Kickinindian · October 2016

It is a massive bummer. Was it a PVE issue or an issue with the Crown Store, it would have been fixed toot sweet. I played one night of PVE dueling and did 1 dungeon, but my heart isn't in it at all. I'm here for PVP. Grinding for gear in dungeons (even with fellow guild members) isn't doing it for me, which means I've maybe played 1 day in a week's time. Such a disheartening situation for any of us who are strictly PVP players. Why am I paying for a subscription?

ZOS_GinaBruno · October 2016

Hey guys - we have a hotfix scheduled for tomorrow morning that will fix part of this issue. You can read the details of the hotfix here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/296577/hotfix-10-11-16-grouping-issue-in-cyrodiil