can we restrict dueling to ouside the cities?

  • Daran_Cousland
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    Roechacca wrote: »
    I don't know what game you are playing but there is not enough duels going on to effect lag anywhere. The lag would be from one Tamriel and everyone bunched up. Stop trying to blame a couple people for the lag.

    I guess I am playing a different game. One Tamriel is already implemented.
  • Stardark
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    There's already a lot going on in cities with larger player crowds without all the dueling adding to the lag.
    Couldn't care less about the lag, but it is very annoying. Restrict it to certain areas, then the duellers have their fun without annoying anyone. Win. Win.
  • Daran_Cousland
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    Dojohoda wrote: »
    I don't have a problem with players dueling where they please. I like it. And if ZOS nerfs dueling, I want to know about it before it happens.

    nerf dueling...if you can't be as obnoxious about it as you want that's a nerf?
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  • Daran_Cousland
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    you know what would be the perfect place for dueling is the outlaw refuges
  • Saturn
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    There's already a lot going on in cities with larger player crowds without all the dueling adding to the lag.

    The lag is not from the duels, but from the sheer amount of people.
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  • Glamdring
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    Now the constant spamming of abilities in citys have a purpose, u guys that complain now, where were u Before 1T? in crowded places ppl have been spamming stuff ALL the time since the early Days. The restriction i feel would be necessary though is to forbid indoor dueling. Other than that Hell No. citys have come alive in a way never seen Before and dueling is a big part in that.
  • iyx
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    Totally agree, the duels should be allowed everywhere, but not in the cities - it turns them into some comedy battlefield, destroying the logic of the world and causes more lag than it was before the patch.
    Edited by iyx on October 8, 2016 1:57AM
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Hey guise...Is it possible to make ANOTHER thread about this topic? The half a dozen or so we already have is JUST NOT ENOUGH!
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  • Annalyse
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    AshTal wrote: »
    I hope it dies down but I agree with OP - every city has people fighting and explosion happening, add a duelling pit in the city and then have the rest of it down outside city limits.

    I would love to see the addition of a dueling pit in or just outside of all the major cities. I'm not sure it would change much, but I would love to see it. They can easily be themed to the region.

    I like this idea also. If there was such a place I think I would go and watch duels sometimes. As it is now, it drives me crazy when I'm trying to shop at traders and such so I end up leaving.
  • Daran_Cousland
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    iyx wrote: »
    Totally agree, the duels should be allowed everywhere, but not in the cities - it turns them into some comedy battlefield, destroying the logic of the world and causes more lag than it was before the patch.

    exactly it seems like guards would step in since they usually have a problem with violence in public. that's why I say let them duel in the outlaws refuge. there's enough unused space in them it would be easy to add dueling pits, even if it's just a circle of stones.
  • Daran_Cousland
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    Hey guise...Is it possible to make ANOTHER thread about this topic? The half a dozen or so we already have is JUST NOT ENOUGH!

    I didn't see any thread before I posted, but if there are that many people complaining then I guess this is a real problem for a lot of people.

    I don't know why the devs didn't see this coming. This isn't the only problem Tamriel One creates that dev didn't address preemptively with some intelligent game design.
  • JMadFour
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    eh, all I care about is being able to auto-decline duel spam.

    dueling has never been fun in any MMO i have ever played, and I'll never participate in it. if people actually like it, then more power to them. I just don't want to be randomly harass-spammed with duel challenges from some 12 year old while running through town.

    as long as I can change my settings so that I don't even see duel requests, and I can completely ignore the chest-thumping tryhards who do it, it's all good. duel where ever you want.

    and before some blowhard comes and mentions it, no I'm not "afraid" of PVP. I just don't like dueling, I don't consider it to be a fun, and I think it is a waste of time. I like ACTUAL PVP that is fun. and I absolutely hate being spammed with random duel challenges from random idiots who can't take no for an answer, which is what ALWAYS happens when dueling is introduced to a game.

    but if you like it, then whatever man. there's something for everyone in ESO.
    Edited by JMadFour on October 9, 2016 3:59AM
  • Jaronking
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    JMadFour wrote: »
    eh, all I care about is being able to auto-decline duel spam.

    dueling has never been fun in any MMO i have ever played, and I'll never participate in it. if people actually like it, then more power to them. I just don't want to be randomly harass-spammed with duel challenges from some 12 year old while running through town.

    as long as I can change my settings so that I don't even see duel requests, and I can completely ignore the chest-thumping tryhards who do it, it's all good. duel where ever you want.

    and before some blowhard comes and mentions it, no I'm not "afraid" of PVP. I just don't like dueling, I don't consider it to be a fun, and I think it is a waste of time. and I absolutely hate being spammed with random duel challenges from random idiots who can't take no for an answer, which is what ALWAYS happens when dueling is introduced to a game.

    but if you like it, then whatever man. there's something for everyone in ESO.
    Go to your setting you can turn on auto decline duels so no one can invite you to a duel.
  • JMadFour
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    JMadFour wrote: »
    eh, all I care about is being able to auto-decline duel spam.

    dueling has never been fun in any MMO i have ever played, and I'll never participate in it. if people actually like it, then more power to them. I just don't want to be randomly harass-spammed with duel challenges from some 12 year old while running through town.

    as long as I can change my settings so that I don't even see duel requests, and I can completely ignore the chest-thumping tryhards who do it, it's all good. duel where ever you want.

    and before some blowhard comes and mentions it, no I'm not "afraid" of PVP. I just don't like dueling, I don't consider it to be a fun, and I think it is a waste of time. and I absolutely hate being spammed with random duel challenges from random idiots who can't take no for an answer, which is what ALWAYS happens when dueling is introduced to a game.

    but if you like it, then whatever man. there's something for everyone in ESO.
    Go to your setting you can turn on auto decline duels so no one can invite you to a duel.

    i'm on PS4, we don't have 1T yet.

    but this is nice to know. it will be the first thing I do when the update hits.
  • Jaronking
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    JMadFour wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    JMadFour wrote: »
    eh, all I care about is being able to auto-decline duel spam.

    dueling has never been fun in any MMO i have ever played, and I'll never participate in it. if people actually like it, then more power to them. I just don't want to be randomly harass-spammed with duel challenges from some 12 year old while running through town.

    as long as I can change my settings so that I don't even see duel requests, and I can completely ignore the chest-thumping tryhards who do it, it's all good. duel where ever you want.

    and before some blowhard comes and mentions it, no I'm not "afraid" of PVP. I just don't like dueling, I don't consider it to be a fun, and I think it is a waste of time. and I absolutely hate being spammed with random duel challenges from random idiots who can't take no for an answer, which is what ALWAYS happens when dueling is introduced to a game.

    but if you like it, then whatever man. there's something for everyone in ESO.
    Go to your setting you can turn on auto decline duels so no one can invite you to a duel.

    i'm on PS4, we don't have 1T yet.

    but this is nice to know. it will be the first thing I do when the update hits.
    I mainly play Xbox but played a bit of the update on PC ,you will still see people dueling but their message will automatically get auto declined.For anyone interested I was planning on spreading the word around the main hub city zone chat for players who don't read the forums.
  • bottleofsyrup
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    I thought I would be bothered by dueling in cities when they first announced it, but a few days into the patch I haven't found it to be disruptive and it's nice seeing people having so much fun. I haven't gotten any dueling requests either outside of the dueling events with guildies.

    Having said that I personally won't duel inside cities as there's just too much in the way. There are some amazing locations for it, especially on the roads and in ruins. I'm excited to see more arenas like Hammerdeath in the future.
    Edited by bottleofsyrup on October 9, 2016 12:16AM
  • LaiTash
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    iyx wrote: »
    Totally agree, the duels should be allowed everywhere, but not in the cities - it turns them into some comedy battlefield, destroying the logic of the world and causes more lag than it was before the patch.

    How does dueling destroying the logic of the world?
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    Ahzek wrote: »
    Roechacca wrote: »
    Ahzek wrote: »
    Roechacca wrote: »
    I don't know what game you are playing but there is not enough duels going on to effect lag anywhere. The lag would be from one Tamriel and everyone bunched up. Stop trying to blame a couple people for the lag.

    He specifically said "adding to the lag". He is aware of the fact that T1 has clumped up people together and that it negatively affects performance, but he feels like the in town duels add another source of lag on top of all that.
    Also note that player behavior can vary depending on servers, so he might very well be playing a different game than you are. For example there was a duelling tournament right in Belkarth the day T1 released in EU, and i have seen my fair share of duels in already tight packed cities.
    TLDR: Dont be so condescending.

    Don't tell me how to post. If you don't like dueling go somewhere else. No one is forcing anyone to watch. You can go to any area now in any city. Go find one that no one duels in. We waited forever for duels and now that we have them all the cry babies are out in force. I found about 10 quiet cities already.

    I love duelling, I have done and watched my fair share of duels before and after T1 released, but i dont see a reason why people would have to duel in the fullest cities they can find. As you said yourself, there are many quiet places in Tamriel, but Mournhold, Rawl'Kha and Wayrest surely are none of them.

    And I will tell you how to post. You dont have to follow my "advice", but it would help if you want people to actually take you seriously. Especially when your comment suggests that you have not properly read the OP and are not interested in constructive discussion whatsoever.
    By the way, you telling me not to tell you how to post is you telling me how/what to post. So dont tell me that.

    It is really simple. By going to cities with more people you have more people to duel. People complain about the dumbest crap sometimes.

    Your logic at the end is a little farfetched as well.
  • magnusthorek
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    Yes, please. And FAST!

    Today I was trying to resurrect my Nightblade I don't play in months.

    She happened to be in Rawl'kha, inside the bank with several players, many more than it used to have prior One Tamriel (which proves the current instance system sucks).

    Not only the logging in, logging out process, to deal with the ridiculously tiny bank space, took a hell of time because of all the armor, costume and pets required to load, but two *** started dueling inside the bank and my UI started blinking while they used their own buffs.

    Something that should be simple, taking long only because of the need of several characters switching, took hours because (this laughable, I know) I couldn't focus on my job to not sell/destroy something ultra-rare in the process.
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  • Tabbycat
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    I have no problem with people dueling outside in cities. it's only an issue if they take it indoors.
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  • Integral1900
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    I'm normally all for letting players do what they wish but this is getting really irritating, not only has the crafting hub been moved from the breathtaking orsinium to that scruffy little dump in craglorn, it's now apparently in the middle of a bloody war zone. Please, I'm begging, a bit of give and take, make orsinium no duelling and move the writ crafting hub back there, but then maybe let the duellers have belkarth instead?
  • magnusthorek
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    ZOS is much more concerned with the word r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d that, grammatically speaking, means nothing offensive, it's just something that's not keeping up the majority speed rate in anything, than fix their mistakes.
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  • Lucius_Aelius
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    I'm normally all for letting players do what they wish but this is getting really irritating, not only has the crafting hub been moved from the breathtaking orsinium to that scruffy little dump in craglorn, it's now apparently in the middle of a bloody war zone. Please, I'm begging, a bit of give and take, make orsinium no duelling and move the writ crafting hub back there, but then maybe let the duellers have belkarth instead?

    Orsinium is buggy as heck, so no I disagree with that idea just for that. Belkarth is a nice little town too, emphasis on little, all the better to have your characters be based in to do writs and turn them in all at once without having to do too much running around, and without the lag and loading screens inherent in Orsinium.

    As for Dueling, I agree with people saying it shouldn't be in towns. Challenge someone in town sure, but have it set the dueling area for outside automatically, activating when both people step inside the area. An exeption perhaps for Kvatch Arena, I honestly don't think I've been there but I heard there is such a place and assume it's inside the city of Kvatch, and obviously it makes sense to have dueling be in an arena.

    It is silly though to have duels just out in the streets of a city or town, and is entirely lore-defying and sense-defying since clearly no civilized society would stand for such intense combat taking place where innocent people could be caught in the crossfire, and to my knowledge no ES game has had random people dueling in the streets as being a common thing. Outside yes, but not dueling in the streets, and if there are any instances they are definitely few and far between and are the exception rather than the rule. They're the rule rather than the exception currently in ESO on PC and soon will be on Console as well, and that's not right, and is also distracting to people just looking to go about their everyday business.
    Edited by Lucius_Aelius on October 9, 2016 2:57PM
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  • BigBragg
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    Instead of asking for game features to be limited, why not request that ZOS improves their net code performance around large masses of players?
  • Annalyse
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    BigBragg wrote: »
    Instead of asking for game features to be limited, why not request that ZOS improves their net code performance around large masses of players?

    Given the mass of threads on this issue in Cyrodiil that have been around since before I even started playing, I think people lost hope in this a long time ago.
  • Tabbycat
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    BigBragg wrote: »
    Instead of asking for game features to be limited, why not request that ZOS improves their net code performance around large masses of players?


    Or increase the number of phases for cities and decrease the population cap for each phase.
    Edited by Tabbycat on October 9, 2016 3:31PM
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    Big No, it should as is..
  • Daemons_Bane
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    ZOS is much more concerned with the word r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d that, grammatically speaking, means nothing offensive, it's just something that's not keeping up the majority speed rate in anything, than fix their mistakes.

    When using a non offensive word in an offensive way, it gets offensive..
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