can we restrict dueling to ouside the cities?

Daran_Cousland · October 2016

There's already a lot going on in cities with larger player crowds without all the dueling adding to the lag.

Roechacca · October 2016

I don't know what game you are playing but there is not enough duels going on to effect lag anywhere. The lag would be from one Tamriel and everyone bunched up. Stop trying to blame a couple people for the lag.

Voxicity · October 2016

no

Ahzek · October 2016

Roechacca wrote: »

I don't know what game you are playing but there is not enough duels going on to effect lag anywhere. The lag would be from one Tamriel and everyone bunched up. Stop trying to blame a couple people for the lag.

He specifically said "adding to the lag". He is aware of the fact that T1 has clumped up people together and that it negatively affects performance, but he feels like the in town duels add another source of lag on top of all that.
Also note that player behavior can vary depending on servers, so he might very well be playing a different game than you are. For example there was a duelling tournament right in Belkarth the day T1 released in EU, and i have seen my fair share of duels in already tight packed cities.
TLDR: Dont be so condescending.

Frozenmosquito · October 2016

Yes please, patch hasnt even dropped for console yet and I already know it will be a pain. So much dashboarding in wayrest already dueling wont make it any better

ManDraKE · October 2016

this has been suggested on the PTS also. It will probably take some time for the DEVS to implement such a thing.

Roechacca · October 2016

Ahzek wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

I don't know what game you are playing but there is not enough duels going on to effect lag anywhere. The lag would be from one Tamriel and everyone bunched up. Stop trying to blame a couple people for the lag.

He specifically said "adding to the lag". He is aware of the fact that T1 has clumped up people together and that it negatively affects performance, but he feels like the in town duels add another source of lag on top of all that.
Also note that player behavior can vary depending on servers, so he might very well be playing a different game than you are. For example there was a duelling tournament right in Belkarth the day T1 released in EU, and i have seen my fair share of duels in already tight packed cities.
TLDR: Dont be so condescending.

Don't tell me how to post. If you don't like dueling go somewhere else. No one is forcing anyone to watch. You can go to any area now in any city. Go find one that no one duels in. We waited forever for duels and now that we have them all the cry babies are out in force. I found about 10 quiet cities already.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2016

Roechacca wrote: »

No one is forcing anyone to watch.

The hypocrisy is strong here.

You put yourself intentionally right in front of us, make an awful lot of noise, light effects, running around and showing off, and pretend that you're not forcing anyone to watch ??? Come on.
We were there before, you know that ?

Isellskooma · October 2016

NOOOOOOO

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2016

Isellskooma wrote: »

NOOOOOOO

Why not ?

Taleof2Cities · October 2016

Ahzek wrote: »

He specifically said "adding to the lag". He is aware of the fact that T1 has clumped up people together and that it negatively affects performance, but he feels like the in town duels add another source of lag on top of all that.
Also note that player behavior can vary depending on servers, so he might very well be playing a different game than you are. For example there was a duelling tournament right in Belkarth the day T1 released in EU, and i have seen my fair share of duels in already tight packed cities.
TLDR: Dont be so condescending.

The tone might have been condescending but the point is still valid ... duels are not creating a noticable additional amount of lag.

Additional players in an area (due to the faction merge of One Tamriel) will affect the lag factor more than duels ... but even then it's not a huge problem.

Ahzek · October 2016

Roechacca wrote: »

Ahzek wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

I don't know what game you are playing but there is not enough duels going on to effect lag anywhere. The lag would be from one Tamriel and everyone bunched up. Stop trying to blame a couple people for the lag.

He specifically said "adding to the lag". He is aware of the fact that T1 has clumped up people together and that it negatively affects performance, but he feels like the in town duels add another source of lag on top of all that.
Also note that player behavior can vary depending on servers, so he might very well be playing a different game than you are. For example there was a duelling tournament right in Belkarth the day T1 released in EU, and i have seen my fair share of duels in already tight packed cities.
TLDR: Dont be so condescending.

Don't tell me how to post. If you don't like dueling go somewhere else. No one is forcing anyone to watch. You can go to any area now in any city. Go find one that no one duels in. We waited forever for duels and now that we have them all the cry babies are out in force. I found about 10 quiet cities already.

I love duelling, I have done and watched my fair share of duels before and after T1 released, but i dont see a reason why people would have to duel in the fullest cities they can find. As you said yourself, there are many quiet places in Tamriel, but Mournhold, Rawl'Kha and Wayrest surely are none of them.

And I will tell you how to post. You dont have to follow my "advice", but it would help if you want people to actually take you seriously. Especially when your comment suggests that you have not properly read the OP and are not interested in constructive discussion whatsoever.
By the way, you telling me not to tell you how to post is you telling me how/what to post. So dont tell me that.

Bryanonymous · October 2016

I hope not.

Ahzek · October 2016

On another note, people can not go where they want to do their daily business, since the most well equiped guild traders simply are in those major cities.

Vipstaakki · October 2016

Yes, definitely. We as a community NEED this.

JKorr · October 2016

Roechacca wrote: »

Ahzek wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

I don't know what game you are playing but there is not enough duels going on to effect lag anywhere. The lag would be from one Tamriel and everyone bunched up. Stop trying to blame a couple people for the lag.

He specifically said "adding to the lag". He is aware of the fact that T1 has clumped up people together and that it negatively affects performance, but he feels like the in town duels add another source of lag on top of all that.
Also note that player behavior can vary depending on servers, so he might very well be playing a different game than you are. For example there was a duelling tournament right in Belkarth the day T1 released in EU, and i have seen my fair share of duels in already tight packed cities.
TLDR: Dont be so condescending.

Don't tell me how to post. If you don't like dueling go somewhere else. No one is forcing anyone to watch. You can go to any area now in any city. Go find one that no one duels in. We waited forever for duels and now that we have them all the cry babies are out in force. I found about 10 quiet cities already.

If the only thing you want out of the game is dueling, find a place that has no player services/trading hub activity. Apparently, although it seems to be a hard concept for the "wanna duel everywhere/pvp open world" players to grasp, not everyone who plays this game is playing for pvp/dueling exclusively. There are other activities like quests, pve content, guild trader kiosks, the banks and crafting stations in the game as well. The "just ignore it" method won't work when the LOOK AT ME I R DUELING players insist on being in the middle of town, in the paths, near the crafting stations, wayshrines, or in the bank buildings.

I would like to find a quiet city. I had one WANNA DUEL? WANNA DUEL? WANNA DUEL? player follow me around after I declined.

Perhaps the "crybabies" simply want access to the pve areas that were supposed to remain pve areas. I seem to be in the crybaby camp, so I would like access to the game I'm paying for. I'm one of the crybabies who sub to support the game. That will probably be changing if the current situation continues. If I can't play without the constant disruptions and do the stuff in game that I have to or want to, like access the bank and go to the crafting stations, I have no reason to sub.

Tabbycat · October 2016

One of the reasons why it took so long for ZOS to put dueling in in the first place was they were worried about players griefing other players.

Now let's see, where did I put my book on the Black Sacrament? Ah yes, here it is. I'll just keep this handy in case anyone bugs me about dueling.

Bouldercleave · October 2016

I LOVE the fact that they brought dueling into the game. I do wish that people wouldn't duel right on top of the banker or wayshrine, but It really isn't that big of a deal.

It has NOT increased lag on my computer though. I noticed no change in framerate, latency, or anything with 1 Tamriel. I have however noticed a much more active and vibrant city population and a TON of overland activity.

ALL of this is 100% positive for the game as a whole. The duels will die down in time - right now everyone is playing with their new Christmas choo choo so to speak.

There will always be those few *** bags though. They are the same ones that spam caltrops and endless hail in the middle of cities like no one has ever seen the animation before. That will never change, and is that any different from dueling in the middle of a city?

Tandor · October 2016

I agree that dueling should very much be in the game, but not in the cities or around the main wayshrines.

Nestor · October 2016

No one is asking for Dueling to be taken away, just restricted from happening in the cities.

binho · October 2016

I totally agree duelling shouldn't be allowed inside city.
It's strange the developers didn't think of that earlier

AshTal · October 2016

I hope it dies down but I agree with OP - every city has people fighting and explosion happening, add a duelling pit in the city and then have the rest of it down outside city limits.

MissBizz · October 2016

I imagine (and hope) it will die down once the novelty wears off.

Dojohoda · October 2016

I don't have a problem with players dueling where they please. I like it. And if ZOS nerfs dueling, I want to know about it before it happens.

Lucky28 · October 2016

i like hte dueling in the cities. it's a very fun sight to see.

Tactical32 · October 2016

Am I missing something here? Couldn't you just ignore it? You know how there are 400 people standing around in Wayrest at all times casting garbage and spamming anything with an animation.... Now they do it at each other?

Just more ammo for the whiners.

Osteos · October 2016

No we can't. Now go on about your business.

Bouldercleave · October 2016

AshTal wrote: »

I hope it dies down but I agree with OP - every city has people fighting and explosion happening, add a duelling pit in the city and then have the rest of it down outside city limits.

I would love to see the addition of a dueling pit in or just outside of all the major cities. I'm not sure it would change much, but I would love to see it. They can easily be themed to the region.

Jayne_Doe · October 2016

I fear that the dueling in the major cities will be a problem on console. I already crash to desktop when I happen to find myself in Mournhold trying to shop the guild traders. Lag is already a huge problem in major cities and it'll just get worse with OT. It's already hard to ignore the idiots (usually CP 400+) who have nothing better to do with their time in the game than stand around spamming their spells/abilities. I try to ignore them, even give them a wide berth if I can, but then, my game crashes and it gets harder to ignore them.

I already avoid these areas as much as I can, preferring to keep my CP character in a gold zone. That'll be gone with OT, which is fine, but there are enough players out there that don't really care so much about being able to duel anywhere as they are about having another way to be a jerk to everyone else who's trying to actually play the game, complete quests, do crafting, shop, etc.

maboleth · October 2016

I like dueling in cities, mostly because it adds to the overall atmosphere. Some people fight, others watch, some read, some walk, ride... together with NPCs this makes it more life-like and livable.

That being said, dueling within buildings like banks where there's lot of people in a confined space is a bit over the top.

Daran_Cousland · October 2016

maboleth wrote: »

I like dueling in cities, mostly because it adds to the overall atmosphere. Some people fight, others watch, some read, some walk, ride... together with NPCs this makes it more life-like and livable.

That being said, dueling within buildings like banks where there's lot of people in a confined space is a bit over the top.

really you do it because you want attention. and with a couple dozen other players also competing for attention it's always over the top. why not find a place for dueling where people who want to see dueling can watch, like in WoW it's Goldshire or the gates of Orgrimar.