ICP 2nd last boss

DRXHarbinger · October 2016

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Wow...*** lol. Yesterday they had a total of 4.4m health. Now they have that each. Good troll zos. Now they are the longest fight in dungeon history.

Probably to prevent stack and burn. Tank now has to take beserker and knight. Healer stands on templar and bashes and dps take out necro.

Surely though you get overwhelmed by colossus before you kill the 3rd and 4th ones though?

Lol zos have done a right *** up with this update. No doubt otho in wgt has 60m health now.

@DRXHarbinger Alright, I'm out of the ICP farm. Really can't be bothered doing it with a 30 minute fight on a mini boss. Don't get me wrong I'm glad they buffed up ICP in difficulty, but not in this way. If anything it should be like it was before it was nerfed.

Yeah *** that dude. Let's hope a nerf comes in asap. Good thing I now have 4500 trophies for a chest raid. It seems they made vet mode another vet mode. Good luck to any non leets doing this now. May as well remove from pledge rotation.

HatchetHaro · October 2016

Yeah ZOS seriously screwed up with the dungeon difficulty.
Heck, leave the old dungeons as they were, those were fine. Buff (some of) the new dungeons. It's not about giving veteran players a challenge; it's about making it playable for the less-experienced and/or casual players.

Vaoh · October 2016

That's like a Normal trial boss.....
.....minus the 6 extra DPS you'd basically have.

Wow that sounds boring

DRXHarbinger · October 2016

Wait @IzakiBrotheSs jewlery and swords won't work on scathing mage anyway, you need in on your force pulse bar to get the massive proc chance.

Warden now doesn't drop gloves or hats. The question now is who does drop the rest. Just need divines gloves and sash. The farm is still on. I command you.

DRXHarbinger · October 2016

Wouldn't it be funny if the twins on vMoL now have double health.

DPShiro · October 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Wait @IzakiBrotheSs jewlery and swords won't work on scathing mage anyway, you need in on your force pulse bar to get the massive proc chance.

Warden now doesn't drop gloves or hats. The question now is who does drop the rest. Just need divines gloves and sash. The farm is still on. I command you.

I'm looking forward to try tbs+scathing on my mNB, was hoping to get 3 scathing jewelry and using head/shoulders since no optimal monster set for mNB anyway. It probably won't be a viable alternative to IA 3 piece though.

I've been stocking trophies too, but so sad to hear jewelry don't drop from vaults

And nice playing with you yesterday!

Blakeabutler_Blasius · October 2016

Did on vet today with a CP cap pick up group. We stacked and burned, but yea it too a lot longer than normal.

I feel like they adjusted this boss encounter health on an individual basis rather than the totally health. Lol It was fun.

magnusthorek · October 2016

Goodbye Necrotic Hoarvor...

Izaki · October 2016

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

I like the fact that some bosses now hit hard and have enough hp so you get to see all their mechanics. And it's not like all bosses hit that hard. There are still enough vet dungeons that can be tanked with 21k hp and a destro staff on your off bar (or any other tank-dd hybrid builds).

Its not the point. Now its just a long and boring fight. I

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Wow...*** lol. Yesterday they had a total of 4.4m health. Now they have that each. Good troll zos. Now they are the longest fight in dungeon history.

Probably to prevent stack and burn. Tank now has to take beserker and knight. Healer stands on templar and bashes and dps take out necro.

Surely though you get overwhelmed by colossus before you kill the 3rd and 4th ones though?

Lol zos have done a right *** up with this update. No doubt otho in wgt has 60m health now.

@DRXHarbinger Alright, I'm out of the ICP farm. Really can't be bothered doing it with a 30 minute fight on a mini boss. Don't get me wrong I'm glad they buffed up ICP in difficulty, but not in this way. If anything it should be like it was before it was nerfed.

Yeah *** that dude. Let's hope a nerf comes in asap. Good thing I now have 4500 trophies for a chest raid. It seems they made vet mode another vet mode. Good luck to any non leets doing this now. May as well remove from pledge rotation.

Hehe yeah you lucky with your trophies :P I just don't have the need for scathing anymore now that I found out that Julianos and TBS give the same results. I'm not wasting time farming anything now, just want to enjoy the trials and other game aspects. Ilambris and Kra'agh is enough stuff to farm for me lol.

Izaki · October 2016

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

I like the fact that some bosses now hit hard and have enough hp so you get to see all their mechanics. And it's not like all bosses hit that hard. There are still enough vet dungeons that can be tanked with 21k hp and a destro staff on your off bar (or any other tank-dd hybrid builds).

Its not the point. Now its just a long and boring fight. I

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Wow...*** lol. Yesterday they had a total of 4.4m health. Now they have that each. Good troll zos. Now they are the longest fight in dungeon history.

Probably to prevent stack and burn. Tank now has to take beserker and knight. Healer stands on templar and bashes and dps take out necro.

Surely though you get overwhelmed by colossus before you kill the 3rd and 4th ones though?

Lol zos have done a right *** up with this update. No doubt otho in wgt has 60m health now.

@DRXHarbinger Alright, I'm out of the ICP farm. Really can't be bothered doing it with a 30 minute fight on a mini boss. Don't get me wrong I'm glad they buffed up ICP in difficulty, but not in this way. If anything it should be like it was before it was nerfed.

Yeah *** that dude. Let's hope a nerf comes in asap. Good thing I now have 4500 trophies for a chest raid. It seems they made vet mode another vet mode. Good luck to any non leets doing this now. May as well remove from pledge rotation.

Hehe yeah you lucky with your trophies :P I just don't have the need for scathing anymore now that I found out that Julianos and TBS give the same results. I'm not wasting time farming anything now, just want to enjoy the trials and other game aspects. Ilambris and Kra'agh is enough stuff to farm for me lol.

Izaki · October 2016

DPShiro wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Wait @IzakiBrotheSs jewlery and swords won't work on scathing mage anyway, you need in on your force pulse bar to get the massive proc chance.

Warden now doesn't drop gloves or hats. The question now is who does drop the rest. Just need divines gloves and sash. The farm is still on. I command you.

I'm looking forward to try tbs+scathing on my mNB, was hoping to get 3 scathing jewelry and using head/shoulders since no optimal monster set for mNB anyway. It probably won't be a viable alternative to IA 3 piece though.

I've been stocking trophies too, but so sad to hear jewelry don't drop from vaults
And nice playing with you yesterday!

@DPShiro NBs are the only class that can use necropotence and molag kena and not screw their rotation. Necro, Aether, Kena = bag of stats easier rotation without Twisting Path (the duration kinda screws everything up). Use Master's staff on back bar with Clench and vMA on front bar. Molag Kena is easy to sustain with Elemental Drain and Siphonning Attacks. Try it

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2016

timidobserver wrote: »

Nice, sounds like ICP is challenging again. I guess I need to do it before it gets whine nerfed again.

@timidobserver The real question in my mind, is did they just gate the new BIS gear behind one heck of a trash pull? Starting to think that TBS + Scathing (need jewelry from last boss) is going to be all the rage.

rhapsodious · October 2016

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Nice, sounds like ICP is challenging again. I guess I need to do it before it gets whine nerfed again.

@timidobserver The real question in my mind, is did they just gate the new BIS gear behind one heck of a trash pull? Starting to think that TBS + Scathing (need jewelry from last boss) is going to be all the rage.

Do the vault chests drop jewelry? If they do, it's not optimal by any means... but it's something. Doesn't specify in the patch notes.

WalksonGraves · October 2016

jellyalex978 wrote: »

Afafrenferr wrote: »

Maybe it's cuz your food ran out!? Jk
I'd like to see an answer for this as well, I kinda hope it's all a bit harder to do, good groups I run with can blast through every dungeon and hard mode boss, but 18mil could be a bit on the excessive side.

nah, I'm pretty sure every of us had food on during fight. The food ran out after we were all wiped out.

Clearly the solution is they need to make 3 hour food so it lasts the whole fight.

Danksta · October 2016

Danksta wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Tbf at each dps doing 30k each it should take 5 mins. ...where are the pc leets putting this math to the test.

Actually 2 DPS doing 30k each would get it done in just under 10 minutes. That's obviously not considering the damage the tank and healer do, but I think it's safe to say they won't be doing nearly 30k each to get them to the 5 minute mark.

Edit: Ignore me, I'm apparently not smart enough for math in the morning.

Xrucible · October 2016

Come on.. This fight finally made me want to run the dungeon again after a long time. We actually had to follow the mechanics for the fight instead of the usual stack and burn.

BTW PUGs will have a hard time getting past this boss fight.

lockator · October 2016

They seemed to have buffed bosses and trash across the board in the old vets - by.a.lot.

Bloodspawn jumped from 1.4m HP to 4m as a way of example.

Its a weird design choice (if it is indeed intended) considering they just nerfed icp,wgt and coa only to buff them

s7732425ub17_ESO · October 2016

Come on guys, this is obviously an oversight/mistake on this boss encounter. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon.

UrQuan · October 2016

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

Come on guys, this is obviously an oversight/mistake on this boss encounter. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon.

Is it? Other old vet dungeons (possibly all of them?) have also had big health buffs for mobs and bosses. I'm not sure if this is an oversight/mistake or not.

timidobserver · October 2016

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Nice, sounds like ICP is challenging again. I guess I need to do it before it gets whine nerfed again.

@timidobserver The real question in my mind, is did they just gate the new BIS gear behind one heck of a trash pull? Starting to think that TBS + Scathing (need jewelry from last boss) is going to be all the rage.

I am okay with the the best gear in the game being locked behind difficult encounters, but if what I am reading is accurate, this is probably a bug that will be fixed. I expect some significant across the board nerfs due to the complaining.

That said, the people in this thread are calculating somewhere between 5-10 minutes for people doing 30k AoE dps. That means it should be significantly faster for a group doing decent DPS since AoE dps against 4 decently stacked mobs should be well over 30k.

SupremeTravie · October 2016

Lol just tried to do it. Basically be prepared to do this fight like you were doing a whole other dungeon. 2 of them are 4.4 mil and 2 others are 3.7 mil.. Oh im sorry zos i didn't know you made vICP the new trial for update 12. Make sure you go in here with a real group. Personally with ICP being the longest dungeon this fight just makes it all the more boring. ZOS never fails to be lazy and not look into what their doing. No surprise after the update. How are you going to nerf it and buff it to hell. Seems to me they were lazy and forgot. Each warden is a boss in itself.

dagonbeer · October 2016

I would be fine with this if they compensated by removing 90% of trash in ICP.

@ZOS_Finn @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert Seriously, trash is not fun or challenging. If we die to trash (and we do, usually more than to bosses) it's because we are bored out of our minds and I'm looking over at my cat while spamming aoe. In some of the newer dungeons, the first group of trash (Crem guards, Harvester group, etc.) is slightly interesting, but there is absolutely no point in making us do the same thing over and over again. Especially now with One Tamriel, with very limited playtime I'd rather spend time in multiple dungeons each night rather than waste time on identical mob groups in the same dungeon. I ABSOLUTELY dread the middle portion of Sanctum. Ideally, it should have been manticora->one big troll/OC trash pack->troll boss->okay one more trash pack if you're into it->Ozara->serpent.

The Secret World had the right idea -- minimal trash in dungeons, just interesting boss fights. I think the boss fights in ESO are just as good, you just need to take out the trash (ahem)

SanTii.92 · October 2016

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Wow...*** lol. Yesterday they had a total of 4.4m health. Now they have that each. Good troll zos. Now they are the longest fight in dungeon history.

Probably to prevent stack and burn. Tank now has to take beserker and knight. Healer stands on templar and bashes and dps take out necro.

Surely though you get overwhelmed by colossus before you kill the 3rd and 4th ones though?

Lol zos have done a right *** up with this update. No doubt otho in wgt has 60m health now.

@DRXHarbinger Alright, I'm out of the ICP farm. Really can't be bothered doing it with a 30 minute fight on a mini boss. Don't get me wrong I'm glad they buffed up ICP in difficulty, but not in this way. If anything it should be like it was before it was nerfed.

30 minutes fight you say? that'd mean your damage dealers combined are doing 9.7k aoe dps. Nice

Inb4 stupid questions. 4.4m*4 / 1800 secs.

DRXHarbinger · October 2016

SanTii.92 wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Wow...*** lol. Yesterday they had a total of 4.4m health. Now they have that each. Good troll zos. Now they are the longest fight in dungeon history.

Probably to prevent stack and burn. Tank now has to take beserker and knight. Healer stands on templar and bashes and dps take out necro.

Surely though you get overwhelmed by colossus before you kill the 3rd and 4th ones though?

Lol zos have done a right *** up with this update. No doubt otho in wgt has 60m health now.

@DRXHarbinger Alright, I'm out of the ICP farm. Really can't be bothered doing it with a 30 minute fight on a mini boss. Don't get me wrong I'm glad they buffed up ICP in difficulty, but not in this way. If anything it should be like it was before it was nerfed.

30 minutes fight you say? that'd mean your damage dealers combined are doing 9.7k aoe dps. Nice

Inb4 stupid questions. 4.4m*4 / 1800 secs.

He's generalising. Add in taking out bone colossus and the healer going to full health in 2s. A death or so then it's going to be a long fight.

ZOS_Finn · October 2016

Sorry about that folks. This one slipped through the cracks. We will be fixing this in a future incremental patch.

Doctordarkspawn · October 2016

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

Sorry about that folks. This one slipped through the cracks. We will be fixing this in a future incremental patch.

THANK YOU.

I was hoping to all bloody god this was not intended, thank the divines.

Silver_Strider · October 2016

Future incremental patch huh?

Sorry Console Players, you guys are screwed for the next 3 months

lockator · October 2016

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

Sorry about that folks. This one slipped through the cracks. We will be fixing this in a future incremental patch.

Hi, just to clarify - does this specifically refer to this boss or all the old vet dungeons bosses?

rhapsodious · October 2016

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

Sorry about that folks. This one slipped through the cracks. We will be fixing this in a future incremental patch.

Oh thank god. Thanks for clarifying!

Will the enemy stats go back to U11 levels?

timidobserver · October 2016

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

Sorry about that folks. This one slipped through the cracks. We will be fixing this in a future incremental patch.

@ZOS_Finn

ICP or all dungeons?